Why do people hate on Superman?

[web crawler king]

Grimesby

King Coatl

Notice how there's a laughtrack going on behind it. It's a joke. It's meant to be funny because it's clear to the audience that he could never be Batman.

you would be eaten alive in a real comic forum site.. rofl
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/

join this site and try to tell these comic readers everything u said in this thread about superman and batman.. rolleyes

[Grimesby]

King Coatl

Grimesby

King Coatl

Notice how there's a laughtrack going on behind it. It's a joke. It's meant to be funny because it's clear to the audience that he could never be Batman.

I am fully aware the laugh is coming more b/c of the person saying it not that the premise of the character.

u know in the military with certain equipment and reference to certain superheroes like Batman we referred to him as the everyman character b/c he is. u may not be able to become him but many ppl who have had far superior training to yourself do view him as such and even name some tech concept as the Everyman type projects.

i am not going to argue semantics with u who sees overly fixated on what Everyman is when DC/Marvel and various other comic sources have referred to Batman as the Everyman type hero and archetype. rolleyes

hell, even Thunderstrike the guy with the power of a god was billed as the Everyman Avenger due to his background and relatability of his human nature.. u talk about looking up definition but, if u continue to look them up yourself u will find in various dictionaries and online as well as history as how the Everyman description is used.

pls, take your over analytical aspie argument else where. stare

I do believe I was discussing this first, so if you don't want to see my argument you can simply not read it. You can take your pretensions elsewhere.

I suppose Batman may be the "everyman" according to the way you understand the term, but I do know what it means in fiction and especially literature, and I disagree with your definition.

[Empress Goddess Queen]

Thomas Wayne Jr

Have you even read a Superman comic or are just copying that list from someone else's list of Things I can say about Superman without context and make them sound stupid.?

There's also no the logic in thinking that "being human" is a what makes a character relatable. You can surely find more things to relate to your everyday life with Clark's in an episode of Smallville than in the trivial human story of a rich boy who after losing his parents used his limitless fortune to travel the world and become a superninja.

I probably read more comics of superman than you thanks to my dad's and older brother's comic collection. rolleyes
I find it kinda odd and funny that you reference smallville after trying to accuse someone of not reading comics. the three things I listed was just things at the top of my head that was ridiculously absurd in the last decade. I actually know the background of the stories that i referenced, do u?

unless you have something to add I really have nothing to say to you.

[King Coatl]

Grimesby

I do believe I was discussing this first, so if you don't want to see my argument you can simply not read it. You can take your pretensions elsewhere.

I suppose Batman may be the "everyman" according to the way you understand the term, but I do know what it means in fiction and especially literature, and I disagree with your definition.

Its not just the way I understand it, it is also the way the comic company have used it who happen to write modern literature.. it seems more like you are the one lacking in the usage of the term Everyman.

The only one who was pretentious here in the beginning was u with your comment on the Batman avi rather than the argument. it was u who made a simple discussion far more by trying to attack a poster with a certain jibe.

how old are u, 12?
now u are what upset when someone else doesnt afford u the tack and courteous behavior you did not afford another?

[Thomas Wayne Jr]

The Childllike Empress

I probably read more comics of superman than you thanks to my dad's and older brother's comic collection. rolleyes
I find it kinda odd and funny that you reference smallville after trying to accuse someone of not reading comics. the three things I listed was just things at the top of my head that was ridiculously absurd in the last decade. I actually know the background of the stories that i referenced, do u?

unless you have something to add I really have nothing to say to you.

Then it is strange that after reading Superman's defeat of Darkseid what you take out of it is that Superman "created a new superpower", an existence erasing superwhistle, when what actually happened is that Superman mostly just whistles. By those standards, you could say Dorothy develops the power of Super Witch-Melting Water Spilling to defeat the West Witch, but that's not what happens and if you're to look back at them and think them superpowers then you have somehow missed the point. More than a parade of superpowers, these are stories where the hero facing ultimate evil finds the ridiculous fatal flaw, because they're big, impressive and destroy planets but have silly small exhaust ports leading straight to the core. If anything, these are meant to be the exact opposite of a super feat.

Is the complain about Superman absorbing anti-matter sun energy is because he is absorbing sun energy or because it of the anti-matter kind? Because if it is the first it is hardly a new ability he wiped out of his a**, if it's the second, then yes, it is nonsensical, but it is also regular comic book science. In universes where Green Lanterns fight Qwardians at every turn and Batman can punch Owlman and no one ever explodes, is this really something you will pin exclusively on Superman for being a very Superman thing?

And I brought Smallville into the conversation because it is a recent and good example of the accessibility of the character. You (or say people can't relate to Superman because he is not an everyman and yet we have proof that it is actually very possible and in fact people do. You look at every live-action series of the character and what you find are shows that for the most part revolve around what you can pretty much say call mundane: Smallville every nonpowered scene you could lift from Dawson's Creek, Superboy makes it more of the same but with 80's hair, Lois & Clark is well, about Lois and Clark. You may think whatever you want of the quality of any of these shows but the point is people obviously relates to the character and have time and time again go back to it, and it surely isn't because of the 5 minutes he spends in costume (or not-in-costume in the case of Smallville) for every 50 minutes of show.

[Devonix]

Also the whole super static electricity thing isn't a Superpower. Its just him using superspeed and super strength to apply REGULAR static electricity on a larger scale.

[King Coatl]

Devonix

Also the whole super static electricity thing isn't a Superpower. Its just him using superspeed and super strength to apply REGULAR static electricity on a larger scale.

The point is it is a one time feat which shouldnt even work by even comic logic.

They find new ways to give Superman a Dues Ex Machina ability needed for the story which happens regularly in his comics which insults long time readers who have read his comic for decades and know that is not a standard power nor should he have known to do that b/c he never done it in other similar situations.

[fudaykjnura7]

Have you seen Young Justice? He treats his clone-son like crap! scream