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The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.
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Wow. = - = So, if I want to cosplay as a comic book character I really like and who just so happens to wear a skimpy costume, I'm a fake and ugly?

I'll be frank, I'm very pretty and I am very nice. I am nice because I like being nice, not because I'm a shallow bimbo who wants D. I wll not lie, there are women who are both very pretty, yet very mean and vindictive. But those are the ones you want to stay away from.
But, okay, Tony.
We'll see who's laughing when I'm NOT buying your s**t. ********' BIIIITCH. = w =

Is there a link to the argument? Or has it been deleted?


The layout looks like Facebook, but when I went to search for him, he didn't show up.
I'm guessing this means he's hidden himself after all the scrutiny he's received.
But it's been screen-capped, and the whole internet knows about it.
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Eternal Marionetta
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Wow. = - = So, if I want to cosplay as a comic book character I really like and who just so happens to wear a skimpy costume, I'm a fake and ugly?

I'll be frank, I'm very pretty and I am very nice. I am nice because I like being nice, not because I'm a shallow bimbo who wants D. I wll not lie, there are women who are both very pretty, yet very mean and vindictive. But those are the ones you want to stay away from.
But, okay, Tony.
We'll see who's laughing when I'm NOT buying your s**t. ********' BIIIITCH. = w =

Is there a link to the argument? Or has it been deleted?

Don't forget, it also makes you a whore! emotion_awesome

THEN A WHORE I SHALL BE.

I just find it stupid that women are getting slammed for dressing up as superheroes in skimpy/seductive costumes because, ya know, US WOMENFOLK ARE GIVEN SO MANY OPTIONS.


Oh yes, unrealistic body images within comics (I'm looking at you, Liefeld), being judged by what we wear and how many people we have or have not had sex with, shown as accessories for men, and so many more things.

I say we try to flush out all the waste as it comes.
Goodbye, Mark Millar and Tony Harris.
Neither of you will be missed.
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The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.

A fellow Winder Soldier fangirl?! emotion_kirakira
Captain Mantis
Captain Talavar
The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.

Exactly. It reeks of pettiness to even get so worked up over geek culture going mainstream like this (which, like I said, should be seen as a victory for us), and add the sexism and it just goes overboard into a*****e ******** douchebag territory.
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Captain Mantis
Captain Talavar
The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.

A fellow Winder Soldier fangirl?! emotion_kirakira

Oh honey.
Yes I am.
I just- oh man I get slammed with feelings every time Bucky shows up in a comic.
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Captain Mantis
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The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.

Exactly. It reeks of pettiness to even get so worked up over geek culture going mainstream like this (which, like I said, should be seen as a victory for us), and add the sexism and it just goes overboard into a*****e ******** douchebag territory.

Amen.
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The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.

A fellow Winder Soldier fangirl?! emotion_kirakira

Oh honey.
Yes I am.
I just- oh man I get slammed with feelings every time Bucky shows up in a comic.

I just discovered Winter Soldier last year when my husband bought me Captain America: Winter Soldier for Christmas...As son as I finished reading it I walked up to him and said: "Why didn't anyone ever tell me Bucky was so awesome?!"
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Captain Mantis
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The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.

A fellow Winder Soldier fangirl?! emotion_kirakira

Oh honey.
Yes I am.
I just- oh man I get slammed with feelings every time Bucky shows up in a comic.

I just discovered Winter Soldier last year when my husband bought me Captain America: Winter Soldier for Christmas...As son as I finished reading it I walked up to him and said: "Why didn't anyone ever tell me Bucky was so awesome?!"


asdhsoifvjdjcfsdcf

See, this is what happened to me (it's actually how I got into comics in general).
The first time I went into a comic store, I was uncomfortable as ********.
That's because of the negative stereotype associated with comics that Tony Harris endorses.
But my friend had wanted to go in there, and I wanted to spend time with her, so I just sat in the corner of the store, wondering when she'd be satisfied and leave.
It took a while.
So, to avoid looking like I was open for conversation, I looked through the anthologies of old comics.
I saw Captain America and remembered that someone had said there were about three years until the Captain America movie would be in theatres.
I picked it up, took it to the cash register, and attempted to purchase it.
No dice- they didn't accept my American Express giftcard.
Well, by that time, my friend had found all the floppy issues she wanted and told me that she had the cash on hand, and she'd get it for me as a birthday present (it was only about a week away).

As the owner of a ridiculous amount of Captain America comics from its first issue to some of the ones released in the seventies, I opened it up, read the comics, and absolutely adored Bucky.
Well, a note from Stan Lee in one of the comics mentioned that he was no longer interested in writing about Cap's adventures in WWII and wanted to focus on the then present.
Cap had made a couple of vague comments on Bucky's death.
I was sad and decided that comics weren't for me, then, since the first character I liked was no longer a part of the comics.

I told my friend about this, and she said "Well, I can't help you with your Bucky blues, but you should at least try a modern comic. Since you like Captain America, why not read the Winter Soldier TPB?"
It was on sale, so I bought it, not knowing that she knew Bucky was in it.
I read it, I was hooked, and I've been following Ed Brubaker's run of Captain America (and its spin-offs, my favorite being the Winter Soldier ongoing for obvious reasons) ever since.

Of course, I slowly branched out into other comics and now have a large number of them and no clue how I got so many (two to three comics a week adds up fast), and I at least have an opinion on most characters.
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The way I see it, non-geeks entering the geek culture and becoming geeks themselves is a good thing, not a bad thing. It's a victory for us geeks, a sign that being a geek isn't lame and isn't stupid.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction to people perceived as "fake geeks" a little bit, but I disagree with it. It's kind of like The Little Rascals movie when they started letting girls into their boys club. Why should geeks let them into their club when they wouldn't let geeks into their club? The thing is, doing the same thing back only makes you just as bad as they are. If you don't like what they do, don't repeat it. Being an a** and not including new people only reinforces negative stereotypes, and that's the last thing we need.

NOW...Introducing sexist misogynistic crap into it? That's just...that's bullshit, and I really don't think I need to explain why. It's really plain and simple.

So yeah. If he was just like "I don't like fake geeks" then it'd be lame, but I'd understand. Bringing a sexist element to it just demolishes the whole thing before it even has a chance to sound reasonable. There's already a sort of stigma within geek culture when it comes to women, and s**t like this doesn't help. It's disgusting.

It's a shame, too. I was looking forward to that new JSA: Liberty Files mini-series. Now I'll have this in the back of my mind if I should decide to check it out. I don't like introducing the personal beliefs of an artist into my decision to buy their work, but it's hard to support someone with such beliefs.


"Fake geeks" isn't even a thing that exists.
As stated before, geek culture is inclusive.
It welcomes those with non-mainstream interests.
Okay so we're not sitting at the popular table in the cafeteria, but who cares?
We belong to a diverse subculture where we can find friends.

Ugh, this entire situation is so frustrating.
My first thought when confronted with "You're not a real fan" is to start showing off my large collection of comics, toys, movies, etc., but honestly?
There is no reason why I should have to prove myself to anyone who is a supposed "real fan."
I'm not here to impress jerks that I don't want to interact with.
I am perfectly content to fangirl over Winter Soldier on my own, and if that's not good enough for them, they can get over it.

A fellow Winder Soldier fangirl?! emotion_kirakira

Oh honey.
Yes I am.
I just- oh man I get slammed with feelings every time Bucky shows up in a comic.

I just discovered Winter Soldier last year when my husband bought me Captain America: Winter Soldier for Christmas...As son as I finished reading it I walked up to him and said: "Why didn't anyone ever tell me Bucky was so awesome?!"


asdhsoifvjdjcfsdcf

See, this is what happened to me (it's actually how I got into comics in general).
The first time I went into a comic store, I was uncomfortable as ********.
That's because of the negative stereotype associated with comics that Tony Harris endorses.
But my friend had wanted to go in there, and I wanted to spend time with her, so I just sat in the corner of the store, wondering when she'd be satisfied and leave.
It took a while.
So, to avoid looking like I was open for conversation, I looked through the anthologies of old comics.
I saw Captain America and remembered that someone had said there were about three years until the Captain America movie would be in theatres.
I picked it up, took it to the cash register, and attempted to purchase it.
No dice- they didn't accept my American Express giftcard.
Well, by that time, my friend had found all the floppy issues she wanted and told me that she had the cash on hand, and she'd get it for me as a birthday present (it was only about a week away).

As the owner of a ridiculous amount of Captain America comics from its first issue to some of the ones released in the seventies, I opened it up, read the comics, and absolutely adored Bucky.
Well, a note from Stan Lee in one of the comics mentioned that he was no longer interested in writing about Cap's adventures in WWII and wanted to focus on the then present.
Cap had made a couple of vague comments on Bucky's death.
I was sad and decided that comics weren't for me, then, since the first character I liked was no longer a part of the comics.

I told my friend about this, and she said "Well, I can't help you with your Bucky blues, but you should at least try a modern comic. Since you like Captain America, why not read the Winter Soldier TPB?"
It was on sale, so I bought it, not knowing that she knew Bucky was in it.
I read it, I was hooked, and I've been following Ed Brubaker's run of Captain America (and its spin-offs, my favorite being the Winter Soldier ongoing for obvious reasons) ever since.

Of course, I slowly branched out into other comics and now have a large number of them and no clue how I got so many (two to three comics a week adds up fast), and I at least have an opinion on most characters.

Heh, that's a fun story, your friend sounds like a sly one. I had actually been into comics for a few years before I discovered Bucky/Winter Soldier. I mean, I'd heard of him but I'd never actually read anything with him in it until last Christmas. I remembered being intrigued by the character in the Captain America movie and even mentioned that I felt like he didn't get enough screen time.

Since then I've mostly read the main Captain America story in trades, though I have picked up a couple of the spin offs (including Winter Soldier of course). The one I really want to read is Captain America and Bucky, I am crossing my fingers for Birthday and/or Christmas this year!
I'll be boycotting Tony Harris too!

Which won't be hard since I don't like his work anyways.
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A fellow Winder Soldier fangirl?! emotion_kirakira

Oh honey.
Yes I am.
I just- oh man I get slammed with feelings every time Bucky shows up in a comic.

I just discovered Winter Soldier last year when my husband bought me Captain America: Winter Soldier for Christmas...As son as I finished reading it I walked up to him and said: "Why didn't anyone ever tell me Bucky was so awesome?!"


asdhsoifvjdjcfsdcf

See, this is what happened to me (it's actually how I got into comics in general).
The first time I went into a comic store, I was uncomfortable as ********.
That's because of the negative stereotype associated with comics that Tony Harris endorses.
But my friend had wanted to go in there, and I wanted to spend time with her, so I just sat in the corner of the store, wondering when she'd be satisfied and leave.
It took a while.
So, to avoid looking like I was open for conversation, I looked through the anthologies of old comics.
I saw Captain America and remembered that someone had said there were about three years until the Captain America movie would be in theatres.
I picked it up, took it to the cash register, and attempted to purchase it.
No dice- they didn't accept my American Express giftcard.
Well, by that time, my friend had found all the floppy issues she wanted and told me that she had the cash on hand, and she'd get it for me as a birthday present (it was only about a week away).

As the owner of a ridiculous amount of Captain America comics from its first issue to some of the ones released in the seventies, I opened it up, read the comics, and absolutely adored Bucky.
Well, a note from Stan Lee in one of the comics mentioned that he was no longer interested in writing about Cap's adventures in WWII and wanted to focus on the then present.
Cap had made a couple of vague comments on Bucky's death.
I was sad and decided that comics weren't for me, then, since the first character I liked was no longer a part of the comics.

I told my friend about this, and she said "Well, I can't help you with your Bucky blues, but you should at least try a modern comic. Since you like Captain America, why not read the Winter Soldier TPB?"
It was on sale, so I bought it, not knowing that she knew Bucky was in it.
I read it, I was hooked, and I've been following Ed Brubaker's run of Captain America (and its spin-offs, my favorite being the Winter Soldier ongoing for obvious reasons) ever since.

Of course, I slowly branched out into other comics and now have a large number of them and no clue how I got so many (two to three comics a week adds up fast), and I at least have an opinion on most characters.

Heh, that's a fun story, your friend sounds like a sly one. I had actually been into comics for a few years before I discovered Bucky/Winter Soldier. I mean, I'd heard of him but I'd never actually read anything with him in it until last Christmas. I remembered being intrigued by the character in the Captain America movie and even mentioned that I felt like he didn't get enough screen time.

Since then I've mostly read the main Captain America story in trades, though I have picked up a couple of the spin offs (including Winter Soldier of course). The one I really want to read is Captain America and Bucky, I am crossing my fingers for Birthday and/or Christmas this year!


This is why I'm terrified for the next movie.
Sebastian Stan doesn't have enough screen time as Bucky for me to make an opinion of him, and I won't even mention the overcrowding.
Steve, Bucky, Falcon, and Crossbones I can understand.
However, as much as I love Black Widow and Hawkeye, I feel like all these people means that Marvel Studios will sacrifice character development for out-of-character humor like they did with the Avengers.
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Wow. = - = So, if I want to cosplay as a comic book character I really like and who just so happens to wear a skimpy costume, I'm a fake and ugly?

I'll be frank, I'm very pretty and I am very nice. I am nice because I like being nice, not because I'm a shallow bimbo who wants D. I wll not lie, there are women who are both very pretty, yet very mean and vindictive. But those are the ones you want to stay away from.
But, okay, Tony.
We'll see who's laughing when I'm NOT buying your s**t. ********' BIIIITCH. = w =

Is there a link to the argument? Or has it been deleted?

Don't forget, it also makes you a whore! emotion_awesome

THEN A WHORE I SHALL BE.

I just find it stupid that women are getting slammed for dressing up as superheroes in skimpy/seductive costumes because, ya know, US WOMENFOLK ARE GIVEN SO MANY OPTIONS.


Oh yes, unrealistic body images within comics (I'm looking at you, Liefeld), being judged by what we wear and how many people we have or have not had sex with, shown as accessories for men, and so many more things.

I say we try to flush out all the waste as it comes.
Goodbye, Mark Millar and Tony Harris.
Neither of you will be missed.

I like wearing skimpy outfits because I'm proud of my body and I love my body. Yes, I am a feminist, but I'm not the "WIMMINZ R SOOPERIOR" type. I believe that we, as women, are just as capable as men and should be able to pursue whatever we desire.

Enough digression, Tony Harris had a point when he said some people (not just women do this) dress up as characters they don't have a lot of knowledge on, but he seemed to use women as an example of bad fandom. That is misogyny, Tony. We aren't just being dramatic. If you target women for something that people of both genders do, you are being a misogynist.
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I like wearing skimpy outfits because I'm proud of my body and I love my body. Yes, I am a feminist, but I'm not the "WIMMINZ R SOOPERIOR" type. I believe that we, as women, are just as capable as men and should be able to pursue whatever we desire.

Enough digression, Tony Harris had a point when he said some people (not just women do this) dress up as characters they don't have a lot of knowledge on, but he seemed to use women as an example of bad fandom. That is misogyny, Tony. We aren't just being dramatic. If you target women for something that people of both genders do, you are being a misogynist.


I agree with almost everything in this post.
However, cosplaying as a character you know little about isn't a bad thing.
Apart from the basics, I don't know much about Red She-Hulk, but I liked her character design enough to make it my Halloween costume.
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I like wearing skimpy outfits because I'm proud of my body and I love my body. Yes, I am a feminist, but I'm not the "WIMMINZ R SOOPERIOR" type. I believe that we, as women, are just as capable as men and should be able to pursue whatever we desire.

Enough digression, Tony Harris had a point when he said some people (not just women do this) dress up as characters they don't have a lot of knowledge on, but he seemed to use women as an example of bad fandom. That is misogyny, Tony. We aren't just being dramatic. If you target women for something that people of both genders do, you are being a misogynist.


I agree with almost everything in this post.
However, cosplaying as a character you know little about isn't a bad thing.
Apart from the basics, I don't know much about Red She-Hulk, but I liked her character design enough to make it my Halloween costume.

I agree. If the costume is good and you put a lot of work into it, who cares if you don't know a lot about the character? If you want to learn about Red She-Hulk, you will do it on your own time and when you feel like it.

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