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After discussing Bat stuff on here and with a few people at a recent convention I did some pondering. Someone over the weekend brought up how Batman and the Joker are one step away from being each other, obviously going with the Alan Moore The Killing Joke "One Bad Day Theory". I counted that really the characters were polar opposites with Batman representing order and the Joker representing chaos, and then took it a step further.

It's laid out plainly in the prose issue that the Joker identity is recreated on a regular basis. This of course being why he's been depicted as a nearly whimsical scamp in some stories and a ruthless vicious murderer in others. We have one man who's complete viewpoint of existence shifts without substantial sensory input. Nothing changes him, he changes himself.

On the other hand as shown with R.I.P. we have Batman as a constant. All the stories, from the gritty detective stuff to the just absolutely weird, happened to one man. However he has remained steadfast in his thinking and his mission. Everything around him changes, however he remains solid.

Also, the notion that with Bruce Wayne shunted into a degrading synthetic now makes All-Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder canon got quite a reaction at said recent convention:

"Oh ********. OH MY GOD! It all makes sense. I know you're joking, but.... god..."

Unfortunately, I think I broke the poor guy. He just kinda wandered off after that.
So... prior to R.I.P., I read a DC Universe back page that insinuated that R.I.P. may not stand for the standard Rest In Peace. I still have not read R.I.P., but was wondering.... what DID R.I.P. stand for?
Reality's Infinte Possibility

or..
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After discussing Bat stuff on here and with a few people at a recent convention I did some pondering. Someone over the weekend brought up how Batman and the Joker are one step away from being each other, obviously going with the Alan Moore The Killing Joke "One Bad Day Theory". I counted that really the characters were polar opposites with Batman representing order and the Joker representing chaos, and then took it a step further.

It's laid out plainly in the prose issue that the Joker identity is recreated on a regular basis. This of course being why he's been depicted as a nearly whimsical scamp in some stories and a ruthless vicious murderer in others. We have one man who's complete viewpoint of existence shifts without substantial sensory input. Nothing changes him, he changes himself.

On the other hand as shown with R.I.P. we have Batman as a constant. All the stories, from the gritty detective stuff to the just absolutely weird, happened to one man. However he has remained steadfast in his thinking and his mission. Everything around him changes, however he remains solid.

Also, the notion that with Bruce Wayne shunted into a degrading synthetic now makes All-Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder canon got quite a reaction at said recent convention:

"Oh ********. OH MY GOD! It all makes sense. I know you're joking, but.... god..."

Unfortunately, I think I broke the poor guy. He just kinda wandered off after that.


Even "the Killing Joke" disproved that. The Joker tried to 'break' James Gordon, and failed.
Just given the first post an update with some bits and bobs from that Wizard interview, the new solicts and a quote about the Omega Effect I noticed in 'Rock of Ages'

I've also included a couple of the new questions that've come up.
Hopefully sometime this week I'll have time to write up answers for the outstanding RIP plot-questions and something on the Battle for the Cowl teaser image. I might also stick a list of credits on for everyone who's been helpful and supportive or has made wonderful jokes at its expense.





Are we really supposed to believe that DC would kill Bruce Wayne?

No. The day Final Crisis #6 came out, Morrison was giving interviews saying, "I keep on stressing for people not to think of this as death. This is part of the story. There's more cool s**t to come. It'd be too easy to think of this as the end" (Wizarduniverse, January 2009)

The week before it came out, Didio was saying things like this, "when you mention a name to people who aren’t familiar with comics, they know who that character is – for everybody from Superman to Aquaman. We want to make sure we have the character that is the most recognizable to the largest number of people. That’s something that we’re always working towards" (Newsarama, January 2009)

Darkseid sentences Batman to the "Death that is life" not the "Death that is death."


What does 'RIP' stand for if not 'Rest in Peace'?

I don't know.
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What does 'RIP' stand for if not 'Rest in Peace'?

I don't know.
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Unfortunately, I think I broke the poor guy. He just kinda wandered off after that.


Hope I'm not about to break you, but...

We're talking about a series of degraded lives here. So it's not just the Millerverse that Bruce is fighting to escape from. It's the Nolanverse too. eek
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Unfortunately, I think I broke the poor guy. He just kinda wandered off after that.


Hope I'm not about to break you, but...

We're talking about a series of degraded lives here. So it's not just the Millerverse that Bruce is fighting to escape from. It's the Nolanverse too. eek
I have to wonder if he's experiencing these lives consecutively or all at once.

"Gotcha."

*Zap!*

"Hey wait, I'm not a p***k that treats women like inferior beings and I didn't pick my partner as if I were a ***** looking to groom a new victim!"

*Zap!*

"Since when am I a moron who needs Morgan Freeman to do my heavy thinking for me?"

*Zap!*
GameInformer Magazine
Grant Morrison's recent run on Batman is considered by many comic enthusiasts to be one of the worst stints on a high profile comic to date. DC Comics is bringing in Neil Gaiman to clean up his mess. His two-part story Whatever happened to the Caped Crusader? starts with batman issue 686. We're confident Gaiman can get this comic back on track, but we're still hoping DC issues a statement saying that Morrison's run is not part of the batman continuity.


They really need to stick to just writing about video games.
So, I'm guessing they never said one way or the other then. Many good laughs though.
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GameInformer Magazine
Grant Morrison's recent run on Batman is considered by many comic enthusiasts to be one of the worst stints on a high profile comic to date. DC Comics is bringing in Neil Gaiman to clean up his mess. His two-part story Whatever happened to the Caped Crusader? starts with batman issue 686. We're confident Gaiman can get this comic back on track, but we're still hoping DC issues a statement saying that Morrison's run is not part of the batman continuity.


They really need to stick to just writing about video games.


What.
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GameInformer Magazine
Grant Morrison's recent run on Batman is considered by many comic enthusiasts to be one of the worst stints on a high profile comic to date. DC Comics is bringing in Neil Gaiman to clean up his mess. His two-part story Whatever happened to the Caped Crusader? starts with batman issue 686. We're confident Gaiman can get this comic back on track, but we're still hoping DC issues a statement saying that Morrison's run is not part of the batman continuity.


They really need to stick to just writing about video games.


What.

GameInformer.
the video game magazine.

they need to stick to writing about video games.
I'm trying to figure out how they'd substantiate a claim like that. I'm not entirely sure what the bulk of reviewers are saying about Morrison's Batman, I'm sure it isn't that.

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