[ Poll ] Life's A Riot Between The Wars (The MU CCC)

Which of the following would best integrate with 616?

Marvelman		27.8%	[ 5 ]
Duckburg		72.2%	[ 13 ]

Total Votes: 18

[iMethuselah]

Quick question: Does Astonishing X-Men take place in current continuity?

I'm curious because I recently discovered that Ellis is writing Astonishing, so I may begin picking it up and it would be an extra bonus if it was canon.

[pinderpanda]

Yeah, it's absolutely canon...but at a sort of an oblique angle. It all counts as having happened, but don't think too hard about exactly when (though that's really only an issue for the Whedon run). The analogy I've heard Joseph Q use is that Uncanny's the TV series and Astonishing is the movie.

You're in for a treat iMeth, it's proper Ellis; layers of hard-ish SF with a rich topping of Everyone Being Absurdly Cool.

By coincidence, I've two Marvel thoughts on my mind right now and one's about Ellis and the other about the X-Men. Though by not-coincidence (contraincidence? anitincidence?) neither of them are anything to do with any of this.

Firstly! At the end of his Thunderbolts run, Doc Samson ends up with the files and the footage showing Director Osbourn reverting to the Green Goblin. Now, at the time this was being held as Songbird's leverage...but the stakes of the game have been raised somewhat since then, have they not? Has anyone addressed the fact that Samson's got the smoking gun that proves the man in charge of America is an insane, cackling super-villain?

This is is the one time I'm glad marty doesn't read this thread, as otherwise I'd have to edit that so as not to give him an obvious feed.

SECONDLY!

Does this...

Quote:

Kiel Phegley: And on the topic of "DoomWar," we had a lot of people happy to see Black Panther at the center of a Marvel event, but a few people were asking about that character's long term team status, including Comicbookfan who asked, "Hey Joe when T'Challa gets better any chance of him joining an Avengers Team? Hopefully Mighty Avengers. I read Geoff Johns' Run on 'Avengers' and he used Panther quite well. So with a Panther watching over Wakanda any chance of T'Challa and Storm spending some time on an Avengers Team?"

Joe Quesada: The idea of T'Challa or Shuri or both joining one of Marvel's elite super-teams is not out of the question. Comicbookfan. "DoomWar," which will see them fight alongside the X-Men, the Fantastic Four and Deadpool, will definitely show both of them the merits of working on a team.

...sound to anyone else like Black Panther is about to join the X-Men?

[Nekotalim_II]

..Knowing how they do things at Marvel, he'll leave his wife to handle affairs in Wakanda. stare


Search your hearts, you know it to be true.

That little piece of Pessimism aside, I'd jump at the chance to spout some kind of insidiously twisted conspiracy over that interesting little fact, but the issue is I'm not able to keep up with Current Marvel comics, so I miss out on most of these events, generally though I'm rarely that disapointed over it.

[kissmekillme]

pinderpanda

Firstly! At the end of his Thunderbolts run, Doc Samson ends up with the files and the footage showing Director Osbourn reverting to the Green Goblin. Now, at the time this was being held as Songbird's leverage...but the stakes of the game have been raised somewhat since then, have they not? Has anyone addressed the fact that Samson's got the smoking gun that proves the man in charge of America is an insane, cackling super-villain?

Loeb wrote away any credibility Leonard has by turning him into an insane, cackling super-villain. He Jeckyll and Hyde'd him and now he's Samson the long-haired crazy monsterman and our good Doctor Leonard. He's also apparently brainwashed by MODOK. Normie really doesn't have much to worry about from him.

[iMethuselah]

pinderpanda

Yeah, it's absolutely canon...but at a sort of an oblique angle. It all counts as having happened, but don't think too hard about exactly when (though that's really only an issue for the Whedon run). The analogy I've heard Joseph Q use is that Uncanny's the TV series and Astonishing is the movie.

You're in for a treat iMeth, it's proper Ellis; layers of hard-ish SF with a rich topping of Everyone Being Absurdly Cool.

This is good news. I'm going to try to keep tabs on his run as much as possible. I've never picked up Astonishing. Not for any conscious reason, simply Uncanny had everything I needed out of the X-Men.

I've been trying to read more stuff from Ellis ever since the first trade of The Authority I bought a while ago, and then I picked up volume 1 of Planetary and the consistency in my enjoyment for his writing continued. Now my girlfriend is patiently waiting for volumes 1 and 2 of Transmetropolitan, so I'll most likely steal those from her.

[Nick Joseph Fury]

pinderpanda

Firstly! At the end of his Thunderbolts run, Doc Samson ends up with the files and the footage showing Director Osbourn reverting to the Green Goblin. Now, at the time this was being held as Songbird's leverage...but the stakes of the game have been raised somewhat since then, have they not? Has anyone addressed the fact that Samson's got the smoking gun that proves the man in charge of America is an insane, cackling super-villain?

It was actually the first thing Diggle had the new "Black-Ops Thunderbolts" team deal with. Obama (Who has evidently become a supporting character in the Marvel Universe) called Osborn to Air Force One to face Samson's accusations. Osborn claimed Samson was in league with the psychic terrorists that attacked Thunderbolt Mountain during Ellis' last arc, and that the Goblin in the security videos could've been anyone. Then he used the T-Bolts to stage an attack on Air Force One, complete with Headsman dressed in a Green Goblin outfit. Ant-Man (the morally dubious one) planted a gamma emitter on Samson's neck and made him Hulk out, giving Osborn an opportunity to claim he was in league with The Goblin. He eventually threw them both (That is, Samson and Headsman) out of the plane, and Obama had no problem swallowing the entire story, because he's apparently never bothered to do a Google search on Norman Osborn.

[iMethuselah]

For anyone else keeping up with Dark Avengers, what the hell? In Issue 9, Sentry gets his face blown off at the end, then in issue 10 he's fine and there's no mention of what happened. Is there another title that handled this or are we meant to forget that it ever happened or assume that anything that ever happens to Bob doesn't matter because he's so powerful he'll just recover?

[Katherine Kane]

I love whenever people just call Sentry "Bob." It both cuts him down to size and is brilliantly tongue in cheek.

So I was talking to a friend the other day about Captain America and the recent revelations concerning his "death," ie the whole "time bullets" thing. Don't worry I'm not here to "LOLWTF" all over the thread. Well not exactly. What I'm wondering here is how is this not pretty much exactly the same goddamn thing that happened to Batman in Final Crisis?

[jacoblinzy]

iMethuselah

For anyone else keeping up with Dark Avengers, what the hell? In Issue 9, Sentry gets his face blown off at the end, then in issue 10 he's fine and there's no mention of what happened. Is there another title that handled this or are we meant to forget that it ever happened or assume that anything that ever happens to Bob doesn't matter because he's so powerful he'll just recover?

I am thinking its going to be part of one of the lists. Marvel is so confusing at the moment because nothing is happening in order. We got books that take place weeks ago coming out at the same time as books that take place in the future. Was Wolverine Origins 41 happen before or after Incredible Hulk 603? And Hulk the List.... when are these things taking place? Can Banner turn into Hulk again and if so why didn't he do it in Incredible Hulk 603 or did that take place before The List and if it did why wasn't Wolverine around to help Banner and Skaar take on Moon Stone and whats her face hot chick who works for Osbourn?

[kissmekillme]

Katherine Kane

I love whenever people just call Sentry "Bob." It both cuts him down to size and is brilliantly tongue in cheek.

So I was talking to a friend the other day about Captain America and the recent revelations concerning his "death," ie the whole "time bullets" thing. Don't worry I'm not here to "LOLWTF" all over the thread. Well not exactly. What I'm wondering here is how is this not pretty much exactly the same goddamn thing that happened to Batman in Final Crisis?

It's much more Billy Pilgrim than it is Bruce Wayne.

[iMethuselah]

jacoblinzy

iMethuselah

For anyone else keeping up with Dark Avengers, what the hell? In Issue 9, Sentry gets his face blown off at the end, then in issue 10 he's fine and there's no mention of what happened. Is there another title that handled this or are we meant to forget that it ever happened or assume that anything that ever happens to Bob doesn't matter because he's so powerful he'll just recover?

I am thinking its going to be part of one of the lists. Marvel is so confusing at the moment because nothing is happening in order. We got books that take place weeks ago coming out at the same time as books that take place in the future. Was Wolverine Origins 41 happen before or after Incredible Hulk 603? And Hulk the List.... when are these things taking place? Can Banner turn into Hulk again and if so why didn't he do it in Incredible Hulk 603 or did that take place before The List and if it did why wasn't Wolverine around to help Banner and Skaar take on Moon Stone and whats her face hot chick who works for Osbourn?

This is the first time since Dark Reign's beginning that something bothered me. And Bendis is writing Dark Avengers, so go figure.

On a related note, I think I know what I don't like about Bendis. It's less about his writing (though that is an issue sometimes) and more about his personality and attitude towards the fans. I watched an interview with him on CBR where he was asked what he thought about fans feeling "event-fatigue" and where he stood with events.

He may have well said "Fans are dumb and events are the only way to keep a comic popular and moving forward".

Ugh, I hate that attitude and now whenever I see his face it makes me cringe. Why do I buy his comics? Because curiosity is a big part of my nature and I like to know what's happening in certain portions of the Marvel U. Those portions happen to be his area. Although, I think I can drop Dark Avengers and not miss anything. I should trade that one out for something else of Fractions... he's writing Invincible Iron Man, right?

[LazyComicFanboy]

Hm, since the Dark Reign thing seems to be the most annoying, I'd like to ask:

Emma Frost took in the Void, lost a great deal of it and has a 'shard' in her yes? Of course, now Utopia is a safe haven for mutants and such yes? Of course. On Utopia you have two powerful telepathic mutants, Psylocke and Charles Xavier, as well as two incredibly smart mutant's Emma Frost, and Hank McCoy yes? Yes, you do. Now that those facts have been established my question is, between the four of them how come no one has tried to you know, seal the Void in something, say a fish? Is there any reason given for why Emma just hasn't transferred the Void's essence into an animal or something yet or is that one of those, 'He'll just get out of the thing and go for Sentry' things?

[Katherine Kane]

kissmekillme

Katherine Kane

I love whenever people just call Sentry "Bob." It both cuts him down to size and is brilliantly tongue in cheek.

So I was talking to a friend the other day about Captain America and the recent revelations concerning his "death," ie the whole "time bullets" thing. Don't worry I'm not here to "LOLWTF" all over the thread. Well not exactly. What I'm wondering here is how is this not pretty much exactly the same goddamn thing that happened to Batman in Final Crisis?

It's much more Billy Pilgrim than it is Bruce Wayne.

Well then, it's clearly time to read some Vonnegut!

[Chris Powell]

Guardians of the Galaxy 19..... gonk

[d. morris]

This should make probably 5 people on these boards happy. I am one of them.