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Which of the following would best integrate with 616?

Marvelman 0.30434782608696 30.4% [ 7 ]
Duckburg 0.69565217391304 69.6% [ 16 ]
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The Delightful Deviant
Lunaris Wolf
pinderpanda

Since I'm reading Uncanny but not X-Force, you're probably the best person to help me with this...

One plotline I'm really into in Uncanny is Scott keeping the existence of X-Force secret from Emma. Am I getting the whole of this story in Uncanny, or is there stuff from the X-Force book itself I need to know?


That's the whole of the story. He's pretty much keeping it a secret from everyone not in X-Force. The actual issues of X-Force are their missions, obviously. Pretty much if you're only reading Uncanny, it's like Scott is keeping a secret from you.


i read both and i'm confused about one thing, Archangel's transformations are not mentioned in any other titles, like not even offhandedly, i mean what's that about?


I've thought of that as well. I figured either the writers aren't communicating with one another to explain this, or we're not meant to worry about it. It is odd that in X-Force, Warren was incapacitated for a bit, but no mention of it in Uncanny. I guess it could also be that X-Force is a little ahead of Uncanny in continuity, so there was no need to recognize what has happened to Warren.
 
     
 
I want Fabian Nicieza to write at least one arc for Deadpool. I loved his stories in Cable & Deadpool.

I forgot, I do read Deadpool but haven't added it to my pull list. I buy it if I see it and if I remember, though I do rather enjoy the art and it has kept me wanting more. So, it's doing a good job, thus far, in my opinion. I like that they're incorporating him into Dark Reign.
     
Normal People Make a Living. Deranged People Make History.

From Genesis to Fruition
read now

New Exiles
Avengers/Invaders
Amazing Spider-Girl
She Hulk
Thor
Marvels Eye of the Camera
Marvel Adventures Avengers
Marvel Adventures Super Heroes
Marvel Adventures Spiderman
Marvel Adventures Fantastic Four

collect to read later

Wolverine First Class
Wolverine/Power Pack
Pasty Walker Hellcat
Amazing Spiderman Family (preparation for spider girl joining)
Laurell K Hamilton's Anita Blake the Laughing Corpse
Stephen King Dark Tower Treachery


dropped Ms Marvel after secret invasion

flipped thru the Avenger books and whatever else peaks my interest at the store
 
     
 
L_LawIiet

So ... what's Captain Britain about?


It's about promising the reader things, giving them the opposite and making them love it.

Where it promises comedy it breaks your heart and where it promises high drama it has you cackling like a witchy hag on nitrous oxide. It's sneaky... a book about the British Intelligence and Superhero communities in which...it turns out they get on rather well, act like adults and complement each other pretty effectively. The UK equivalent of Civil War happens in this book over the course of two polite conversations that you have to read twice to notice consituted a debate.

It's like...the aspect of #10 they promoted - "Doom and Dracula on the Moon!" - well, that happened, but you might expect a scene like that to play out either as charming Silver Age Whimsey or as awesome clash of legendary egos. But instead... they end up having a conversation about Islamaphobia.

And you somehow end up nodding along going, "Yes. Yes this is perfect. Yes, of course Vlad Tepes would hate Muslims. Why has everyone else who's ever written him been so stupid as to not play that up? Yes. Yes, of course Doom would be having none of this. yes, this all fits so perfectly with the themes of the book. Yes, Yes, that's exactly what he'd think about vampires. Yes, Yes. This is perfect. Perfect."

As for what it's about about... Well, Cornell say he's determined that it's never going to be "That British book" but "That supernatural spy book with superheroes", but an awful lot of what jumps out at me from it does seem to be about 'Britishness' and efforts to create an inclusive, post-colonial version of patriotism. Which we just don't have over here - on a list of things the Union Jack symbolises, it symbolises the far right much more than it does the actual country.

And Captain Britain's a gesture towards putting that right, as Cornell's trying to turn him into our Captain America. Which he's never been...the character first became important when Alan Moore wrote him, and used him as a weapon to undermine and deconstruct the whole idea of 'hero'. Then when Claremont, Davies and Ellis used him for Excalibur then the point of him was just that he Wasn't American, they were 'the Other' and those writers used that to explore that difference. This is the first time that someone's tried to write a 'Captain Britain' while working out what that might mean as a thing in itself.

And it seems to mean BIG PROPER SUPERHEROICS, but with a little twist of cynicism, distinct and separate from the BIG PROPER SUPERHEROICS but sat round a table with it, having a pint. A little like if they let Warren Ellis write one out of every eight panels of All-Star Superman.

Lets see...what else should I say...Oh yes! Premise!

MI-13 is the branch of the British Intelligence Services which deals with supernatural/sci-fi/superhero stuff. You may know MI-5 from Spooks and MI6 from James Bond, and we're operating here more in that 'oak panneled rooms in Whitehall' way of seeing the intelligence community than the 'helicarriers' way. All British superheroes fall under its aegis, and a particular team forms while defending Britain from the Skrulls. Then something happens as the cost for victory, which guarantees the team will be kept very, very busy.

The bestest place to start with it is probably the Wisdom trade that came out under MAX, but the Secret Invasion trade that starts the series proper does nicely too. As does just jumping on at #10, the most recent issue.

GLJordan

Pasty Walker Hellcat

Yeah, I've heard good things about that...we'll I've heard that Hannibal Tabu didn't like it, which normally means a comic's good. The mini's just ended hasn't it? Do we have an idea how long til the trade?
kissmekillme
pinderpanda
We do...

  • Have KMKM for this one


It's swings and roundabouts. 3nodding
Lunaris Wolf
Pretty much if you're only reading Uncanny, it's like Scott is keeping a secret from you.

That works well! I'm more than a little bit affiliated with Emma, so it makes sense that my reading should put us in the same boat.
L_LawIiet
Ms. Marvel is ending in the same way "The Incredible Hulk" ended, the numbering and title will continue, but Moonstone is taking over as Ms. Marvel.

Hmm...but then Daken's taking over the Wolverine book for Dark Reign, isn't he?
I'm not sure I expect all these things to be permanent.

Right. I'm now off until Wednesday. When I return I expect this place to be a lively and wriggly concertration of brilliant energy and at least three in-jokes to have been established. On your marks...go!
     
This just jumped out at me.

pinderpanda


-interesting text-

A little like if they let Warren Ellis write one out of every eight panels of All-Star Superman.

-more neat text-


I'm making a note to pick it up. Is it true there is a Muslim woman, and she's practically treated like a human being and she's not associated with terrorism or dust?

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Hmm...but then Daken's taking over the Wolverine book for Dark Reign, isn't he?
I'm not sure I expect all these things to be permanent.


"Dark Wolverine".

Dark Wolverine? Really? What's next? Daredevil: Noir?
 
     
 
L_LawIiet


I'm making a note to pick it up. Is it true there is a Muslim woman, and she's practically treated like a human being and she's not associated with terrorism or dust?



Yes, she is treated like a human being not an animal. She even wields Excalibur and no one cares. With some of the stuff people choose to complain about in comics, I have seen nothing about the fact that a Muslim wields Excalibur. That is a miracle in and of itself.
     
Sadly my "Marvel to do list" is bigger right now than what I'm actually picking up. I'm only paying attention to Thor, Captain America and Incredible Hercules.

It's weird because there's all this great stuff going on that I really should be reading, but I just never seem to get around to it.
 
     
 
Buy my two issue mini......BUY IT!!!! NOW!!!! scream
     
Darkhawk is honestly the only thing about War of Kings that it's taking me any effort to feel excited about.
 
     
 
Hey, does anyone know when Moore's run on Mary Jane will be collected in digest form? I haven't seen anything in the solicits about it D: .
     
Gail Simone
o hai! U can DENIFITELY haz moar striprz!
Other than Iron Man and the Immortal Iron Fist, I'm not even seriously considering
buying Marvel anymore. The writing just isn't working for me.
 
     
 
I'd like to bring up a little niche title coming up.

Pretty soon, X-Men Forever will be starting. This is Claremont on the X-Men again, in an odd sort of retro retread What If.

Basically, the whole premise of the series is that Claremont is writing X-Men the way he would have if his run had continued past X-Men #3 in the 90's. This is a strange beast, and I'm not sure how successful it's going to be but the premise has me interested, both in the title itself and the concept. We've seen a lot of retcon revisionist history lately. Single Spidey. You name it legacy reversal on the DC side. This is basically the same thing, but without all the consequences of canon bogging it down for the fans. What do you think of that?
     
I see how much fun this thread is and my whole boycott thing starts to waver. Then I read this...

Max Mercury
Other than Iron Man and the Immortal Iron Fist, I'm not even seriously considering
buying Marvel anymore. The writing just isn't working for me.


... and I harden again. I'm all in for this thread, I was worried I'd have nothing to contribute here, but it looks like a very fun space to start to feel out just what Marvel is, especially getting a feel for the MU. There's a certain je ne sait quoi about the DCU that I grasped very early on- I think the first non-Vertigo/Wildstorm DC book I ever picked up was Azzarello's Superman while I think my Marvel reading was largely uninterrupted from when I was fourteen until now, so about a decade and yet I couldn't ever really say that I've had a handle on what the MU is in that same sense.

Back to deliberating between New York and the occulty dimension. There's a teeny Iron Man on one shoulder and a teeny Scarlet Witch on the other, you see.
 
     
 
Totally went to the LCS with the secondary intention of figuring out what exactly WAS on my marvel pull-list. The primary reason was, of course, new F-ing comic book day. I forgot to do one of these things, and I never forget to get new comics. Nuff said, it's a lot of comics.

On X-Men Forever, I'll probably give it a month or two before desiding whether or not to pick it up in issue or trade. I really like a lot off Claremont's old X-Men stuff. More so than I like any of his more recent work. This seems weird to me as I tend to like writers who have a more.... I guess, traditional approach to comic writing. He has that, but it's just hit and miss with me.
     
kissmekillme
I'd like to bring up a little niche title coming up.

Pretty soon, X-Men Forever will be starting. This is Claremont on the X-Men again, in an odd sort of retro retread What If.

Basically, the whole premise of the series is that Claremont is writing X-Men the way he would have if his run had continued past X-Men #3 in the 90's. This is a strange beast, and I'm not sure how successful it's going to be but the premise has me interested, both in the title itself and the concept. We've seen a lot of retcon revisionist history lately. Single Spidey. You name it legacy reversal on the DC side. This is basically the same thing, but without all the consequences of canon bogging it down for the fans. What do you think of that?
I'm curious what Claremont has left to tell from that era that he might not have already strip mined. I know that back when he was writing FF, he desperately wanted to put Kitty Pryde in the book so he could write his "FINAL FATE OF KITTY PRYDE" story. It wouldn't surprise me if he had used a lot of those stories at some point. Then again we haven't really seen Wolverine killed and brought back from the dead as a Hand ninja yet so who knows. I feel like this book is such a strange anomaly especially since they're putting Tom Grummett on the book which for me seems like a very odd choice only in that Grummett's art is an antithesis of Jim Lee's art (who we all know probably would have drawn these stories had Claremont written them 18 years ago). I'll probably pick up the first issue to see what Claremont does.
 
     
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