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Joksta
I don't get what you consider charming, either you like the fact he's more clownish in other productions or you like that he plays with his victims. I can give several examples in the movie of him playing with his victims besides the scar stories he tells like the magic trick kill, having 2 goons fight to the death to be in his crew, plus the hospital and boat game to name a few. I personally don't see how the Joker isn't "charming" because he always has the same psychotic persona in all productions with the laugh and lack of compassion for human life. You do know he is a serial killer and they only dumbed down his character for tv with the laughing gas instead of murders. I'm pretty sure you posted this knowing the majority of people enjoyed Nolan's Joker even better than previous versions. Whether you found it unlikable is your opinion, but your arguments of why mainly consists of the fact you enjoy him not being portrayed in a realistic way which is silly of you to think for a live action movie. You sound childish complaining that the Joker was so bad that you can't watch any other films, he was portrayed as the villain he truly is.
I do read the comics and played Arkham Asylum. In the Emperor Joker storyline, because he had the power to do so, he had Batman die a horrible but spectacular death EVERY NIGHT. Batman was a broken wreck after Mxyzptlk got his powers back, until the memories of it were taken away.
The Joker is supposed to be dark AND funny/showy. Not just dark. Nolan took the showy and funny out.
You're comparing a video game to a movie and 2 completely different storlylines of Joker's first appearance and Joker becoming emperor of Gothan City. That whole first paragraph is irrelevent, you're still missing the point I'm trying to make. Nolan's Joker was dark and funny/showy for even the reasons I just mentioned. For some more examples, what's not funny/showy about him blowing away a SWAT vehicle with various guns including a bazooka from a truck thats label was turned from laughter and had spray painted red "s" in front for slaughter? What's not funny/showy about him in a nurses outfit walking away from a hospital he's about to blow up? I'm sorry, but so far it just looks like you were ignorant of the whole movie, every scene Joker was in involved some sort of game he was playing. I'd stop looking at Nolan's Joker so objectively because you'd rather he be more cartoonish with fake guns and acid flower brooches, they did his character justice and you haven't given examples of how they didn't.
Just say you don't like Nolan's Joker because he was portrayed in a realistic light and stop making up excuses that he's not portrayed perfectly from previous incantations. This "charm" is merely in your head, you'd rather him be less menacing, which isn't what they were going for.
In short, the movie wasn't made just for your enjoyment. You even claimed to not like "boringly realistic" comic book movies and if any superhero movie is going to be portrayed realistically, it's Batman. Also, everyone here agrees that Nolan's Joker was entertaining and portrayed in a good light. Not only did the performance win many awards, but it did bring new life to his character with the audience by making it more dark and sadistic while still maintaining his Joker attitude. I'd say they did good despite your disapproval and The Dark Knight can easily be claimed the best Batman movie yet.
Cool story bro. I like the comic book, cartoon, 1960's, and video game depictions. To make him bound to the real world takes all the charm out of him IMO. I agree with what the Joker cosplayer in page 1 said in every possible way.
Considering all your arguments failed, you took the right root in just saying that you enjoy the cartoony versions rather than the realistic one Nolan made.
What's not to like about a guy who hums or whistles to his own theme music in the shows, or is aware of events that got retconned out in the comics, sometimes almost being DC's Deadpool in terms of awareness that he's a comic book character?
So you think that The Dark Knight would have been a better movie if Joker started talking to the camera and breaking the fourth wall? No thanks.
Also, it's not like he does it every single story, much less every page for that matter, like Deadpool.
It's just that Nolan's movies were meant to be more realistic, and set in a real world. And personally I find that really interesting. It makes the audience question how they're going to handle things, like "How would Ra's Al Ghul work in a realistic world?" I'm still wondering how they're going to handle Bane in Rises. It's what makes it new and exciting. It's this new take that makes these movies much more exciting and less predictable than most other comic book movies that take nearly all ideas and concepts from the source material. For example, who knew Batman would refuse to save Ra's (A mortal Ra's at that) from the train in Begins? Who knew he would take the blame for all of Two-Faces murders in Dark Knight? Hell, who knew they would KILL Two- Face? These things never happened in the comics. Nolan is creating his own story, with his own interpretations of the characters. And I personally think he's doing a damn fine job of it. Not adapting somebody elses interpretations of the characters into someone elses story.
I personally don't understand how you could dislike the movies, just because they're more realistic. They may be realistic, but with mixing interesting characters, crime drama, and awesome Batman action scenes, I don't understand how anyone could think they're boring.
If you don't like them, fine. If you don't like a realistic Joker, that's fine. That's your opinion, but arguing that Joker ruins the ENTIRE series because he doesn't use acid shooting flowers or "bang" guns, or breaks the fourth wall, or that realism makes the movies awful, is just silly. I think you need to set your love for silly gags aside and enjoy Batman Begins and The Dark Knight for what they were.
