Jazz Discussion

[Come Play With Dolly]

I wanted to hear from true Jazz followers, how Jazz music has influenced music today. I hope to get a discussion started and learn interesting thing for someone, such as me, who has no real connection or understanding of the cultural music. The history is very vauge for me and perhaps an understanding can be built.

I understand that Jazz began in the 1920s, where times were changing. I also understand that it has a cultural mix of "Western and African music traditions, including spirituals, blues and ragtime, stemming ultimately from West Africa, western Sahel, and New England's religious hymns and hillbilly music, as well as in European military band music", becuase Wikipedia and other sources have said something along those lines.

Getting back to the main topic, how has it effected music today? Do you believe that it has "profound cultural contributions of African Americans"? As I have seen on numberous articles. Or that it has anything to do with a more open (maybe drunk) society?

[Moron Feldman]

well, people's dislike for jazz and associated ethnic groups was a strong point toward the adoption of rock musical styles and much of that influenced modern music

[Whorish Goddess of Sex]

Moron Feldman

well, people's dislike for jazz and associated ethnic groups was a strong point toward the adoption of rock musical styles and much of that influenced modern music

I found that the dislike for jazz is mainly a dislike for the lack of rhythm. At a very young age, we prefer rhythmic over the disorder (for lack of a better word). We will repeat movements or actions over and over again because they have a good rhythm. This is also tied with a child's instant reaction to dance when a song with a "good" rhythm is heard. It's hard for a child to dance with the sudden drum solos of Buddy Rich, among other things. Ska branched off of this, and like, mentioned by Feld, Rock with it's easy rhythm. I say if it weren't for the introduction of jazz, we wouldn't have the music we have today. Jazz was per-say the "starting point" of modern music, and a large leap forward for the arts.

[Moron Feldman]

Whorish Goddess of Sex

Moron Feldman

well, people's dislike for jazz and associated ethnic groups was a strong point toward the adoption of rock musical styles and much of that influenced modern music

I found that the dislike for jazz is mainly a dislike for the lack of rhythm. At a very young age, we prefer rhythmic over the disorder (for lack of a better word). We will repeat movements or actions over and over again because they have a good rhythm. This is also tied with a child's instant reaction to dance when a song with a "good" rhythm is heard. It's hard for a child to dance with the sudden drum solos of Buddy Rich, among other things. Ska branched off of this, and like, mentioned by Feld, Rock with it's easy rhythm. I say if it weren't for the introduction of jazz, we wouldn't have the music we have today. Jazz was per-say the "starting point" of modern music, and a large leap forward for the arts.

well, not really what i'm talking about, but okay.

[Whorish Goddess of Sex]

Moron Feldman

What I got from what you said, is that rock music came along when people found that they disliked jazz. I was just expanding on why they might not have liked the jazz music back in the day, and that reason still persists now. Though I don't know much about why their social group wasn't liked ... besides the slavery and religious reasons, I'm pretty sure the Bible didn't state anyone as black skinned. I could be wrong though.

[Moron Feldman]

Whorish Goddess of Sex

Moron Feldman

What I got from what you said, is that rock music came along when people found that they disliked jazz. I was just expanding on why they might not have liked the jazz music back in the day, and that reason still persists now. Though I don't know much about why their social group wasn't liked ... besides the slavery and religious reasons, I'm pretty sure the Bible didn't state anyone as black skinned. I could be wrong though.

the reason people stopped liking jazz was that black musicians started getting uppity and passive aggressive about white people liking jazz in response to a series of poor political decisions regarding race relations and began obnoxiously making their music less accessible by playing charts without continuos (bebop) and being general dicks to white audiences. which is not to say that white people didn't willingly segregate their musical preferences from those of black people as a result of residual animosity over somewhat unpopular decisions to afford black people more rights on a few occasions