Wicca

[Malaresian Lotus]

Sanguina Cruenta

I came across a book the other day called "Witchdom of the True" written by a fellow named Edred (not Thorson). In his introduction, he said "I know a lot of the Folk will cry out when I say I am writing a book about wicca. But I am simply writing about witchcraft in the Northern religion." He then complained that the Wiccans totally appropriated the word "wicca" from the Saxons.

Fair enough, I think. Gardner took a word that was Old English for "witch" and made it mean what he wanted it to. Theoretically, then - and if I recall it has been mentioned in M&R - a witch practising within an Anglo-Saxon tradition could call themselves wicce or wicca.

Worth noting, however: it's spelt the same as the modern religion, but not pronounced the same.

What this leaves us with, though, is whether Gardner misappropriated the word himself. Edred seemed quite put out about it.

See what money does to the intelligence of people? Amongst a whole large list of things...


You're probably the closest to actually getting it correct.

[o sunflower king]

"In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself."

Guys, I haz a question!
It physically feels like there is a blockage of some kind on my upper back, and a little bit all the way down my spine. Could it be one of my chakras or something?

"That is the meaning of inner stength."

[Sanguina Cruenta]

II Esoteric II

Sanguina Cruenta

I came across a book the other day called "Witchdom of the True" written by a fellow named Edred (not Thorson). In his introduction, he said "I know a lot of the Folk will cry out when I say I am writing a book about wicca. But I am simply writing about witchcraft in the Northern religion." He then complained that the Wiccans totally appropriated the word "wicca" from the Saxons.

Fair enough, I think. Gardner took a word that was Old English for "witch" and made it mean what he wanted it to. Theoretically, then - and if I recall it has been mentioned in M&R - a witch practising within an Anglo-Saxon tradition could call themselves wicce or wicca.

Worth noting, however: it's spelt the same as the modern religion, but not pronounced the same.

What this leaves us with, though, is whether Gardner misappropriated the word himself. Edred seemed quite put out about it.

See what money does to the intelligence of people?

You're probably the closest to actually getting it correct.

Excuse me? What did I say that was close to "getting it correct"?

And what the great ******** does any of that have to do with money?

[Sanguina Cruenta]

Taerinn

"In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself."

Guys, I haz a question!
It physically feels like there is a blockage of some kind on my upper back, and a little bit all the way down my spine. Could it be one of my chakras or something?

"That is the meaning of inner stength."

I'm not sure that's a chakra centre. However, it could have something to do with an energy blockage. I recommend meditation, and yoga or stretching. Physical is tied to the whole energy thing, and stretching your back may help, particularly if it's actually a muscle thing rather than an energy thing.

[Namikikyo]

Gaijin32

Artistic, I can offer a little insight about crystals, having worked with them. I've had some great luck with a wire-wrapped amethyst as a pendulum. Very responsive and accurate. I also keep a small clear quartz single-point in my pocket as a sort of all-purpose crystal and energy 'battery'. When I'm feeling really tapped out, I just meditate with it in hand for a few minutes, and start to feel some of the old willpower coming back. I don't carry rose quartz any more, though...something about it just makes me too over-sensitive emotionally. I take things more personally than I should with that close by.

I can explain to you why all of that is the way it is. I know exactly why your more sensitive with the rose quartz or why you feel empowered by the quartz.

If it's not a problem, I would love to tell you. :3

[Malaresian Lotus]

Sanguina Cruenta

II Esoteric II

Sanguina Cruenta

I came across a book the other day called "Witchdom of the True" written by a fellow named Edred (not Thorson). In his introduction, he said "I know a lot of the Folk will cry out when I say I am writing a book about wicca. But I am simply writing about witchcraft in the Northern religion." He then complained that the Wiccans totally appropriated the word "wicca" from the Saxons.

Fair enough, I think. Gardner took a word that was Old English for "witch" and made it mean what he wanted it to. Theoretically, then - and if I recall it has been mentioned in M&R - a witch practising within an Anglo-Saxon tradition could call themselves wicce or wicca.

Worth noting, however: it's spelt the same as the modern religion, but not pronounced the same.

What this leaves us with, though, is whether Gardner misappropriated the word himself. Edred seemed quite put out about it.

See what money does to the intelligence of people?

You're probably the closest to actually getting it correct.

Excuse me? What did I say that was close to "getting it correct"?

And what the great ******** does any of that have to do with money?

The term Wicca. Money correlates to book sales and religion. Which you see quite often with religions popping up and facts being demolished. Like with what Satanism did to Catholicism. Scientology stole ancient theories from Gnosticism and the demiurge and said it was a new religion. Don't get you panties in bundle over nothing.

[Namikikyo]

Taerinn

"In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself."

Guys, I haz a question!
It physically feels like there is a blockage of some kind on my upper back, and a little bit all the way down my spine. Could it be one of my chakras or something?

"That is the meaning of inner stength."

Is it at the tip of your spine? Because at the very tip is where your root chakra is if your looking at the spine, maybe a littel higher then the very tip.. But you get the idea.

I can explain more if you want. :3 But, I think Sang pretty much told you how to get rid of it other then crystal working and visualizing the blockage and destroying it. Maybe even dealing with the problem that caused the blockage.

[The Last Vincent]

Goodness gracious great balls of fire!

That's what I expect to see in this thread.

Great balls of fire.

[Sanguina Cruenta]

II Esoteric II

Sanguina Cruenta

II Esoteric II

Sanguina Cruenta

I came across a book the other day called "Witchdom of the True" written by a fellow named Edred (not Thorson). In his introduction, he said "I know a lot of the Folk will cry out when I say I am writing a book about wicca. But I am simply writing about witchcraft in the Northern religion." He then complained that the Wiccans totally appropriated the word "wicca" from the Saxons.

Fair enough, I think. Gardner took a word that was Old English for "witch" and made it mean what he wanted it to. Theoretically, then - and if I recall it has been mentioned in M&R - a witch practising within an Anglo-Saxon tradition could call themselves wicce or wicca.

Worth noting, however: it's spelt the same as the modern religion, but not pronounced the same.

What this leaves us with, though, is whether Gardner misappropriated the word himself. Edred seemed quite put out about it.

See what money does to the intelligence of people?

You're probably the closest to actually getting it correct.

Excuse me? What did I say that was close to "getting it correct"?

And what the great ******** does any of that have to do with money?

The term Wicca. money correlates to book sales and religion. Which you see quite often with religions popping up and facts being demolished. Like with what Satanism did to Catholicism. Don't get you panties in bundle over nothing.

Money doesn't correlate to religion. That's why you have people forswearing material wealth and so forth. I wish to see statistics.

Also, correlation doesn't imply causation.

Gardner wasn't rich. In fact I doubt many Pagan writers make all that much money out of it. Even McCoy claims to just scrape by in life. Just because we know their names doesn't mean they earned enough even to live on from their books.

What did Satanism do to Catholicism?

What did I say that was close to "getting it correct"? "The word wicca" doesn't mean anything to me here.

I'm not wearing any panties.

[o sunflower king]

Namikikyo

Taerinn

"In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself."

Guys, I haz a question!
It physically feels like there is a blockage of some kind on my upper back, and a little bit all the way down my spine. Could it be one of my chakras or something?

"That is the meaning of inner stength."

Is it at the tip of your spine? Because at the very tip is where your root chakra is if your looking at the spine, maybe a littel higher then the very tip.. But you get the idea.

I can explain more if you want. :3 But, I think Sang pretty much told you how to get rid of it other then crystal working and visualizing the blockage and destroying it. Maybe even dealing with the problem that caused the blockage.

"In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself."

Mm... I think that's it. It's like that whole upper area.
I wish I knew what the blockage was the result of. I mean, why I try and meditate, all I can feel is that stupid blockage. It's like a cycle of fail. It kinda feels like a spiritual blockage. :[

Any extra information would be awesome. sweatdrop

"That is the meaning of inner stength."

[The Last Vincent]

Sanguina Cruenta

I'm not wearing any panties.

The first great ball of fire? You decide!

[Namikikyo]

The Last Vincent

Goodness gracious great balls of fire!

That's what I expect to see in this thread.

Great balls of fire.

I didn't really like it all that much. :/

[Malaresian Lotus]

Sanguina Cruenta

II Esoteric II

Sanguina Cruenta

II Esoteric II

Sanguina Cruenta

I came across a book the other day called "Witchdom of the True" written by a fellow named Edred (not Thorson). In his introduction, he said "I know a lot of the Folk will cry out when I say I am writing a book about wicca. But I am simply writing about witchcraft in the Northern religion." He then complained that the Wiccans totally appropriated the word "wicca" from the Saxons.

Fair enough, I think. Gardner took a word that was Old English for "witch" and made it mean what he wanted it to. Theoretically, then - and if I recall it has been mentioned in M&R - a witch practising within an Anglo-Saxon tradition could call themselves wicce or wicca.

Worth noting, however: it's spelt the same as the modern religion, but not pronounced the same.

What this leaves us with, though, is whether Gardner misappropriated the word himself. Edred seemed quite put out about it.

See what money does to the intelligence of people?

You're probably the closest to actually getting it correct.

Excuse me? What did I say that was close to "getting it correct"?

And what the great ******** does any of that have to do with money?

The term Wicca. money correlates to book sales and religion. Which you see quite often with religions popping up and facts being demolished. Like with what Satanism did to Catholicism. Don't get you panties in bundle over nothing.

Money doesn't correlate to religion. That's why you have people forswearing material wealth and so forth. I wish to see statistics.

Also, correlation doesn't imply causation.

Gardner wasn't rich. In fact I doubt many Pagan writers make all that much money out of it. Even McCoy claims to just scrape by in life. Just because we know their names doesn't mean they earned enough even to live on from their books.

What did Satanism do to Catholicism?

What did I say that was close to "getting it correct"? "The word wicca" doesn't mean anything to me here.

I'm not wearing any panties.

Another post taken out of context. I was actually saying (modern) Satanism and Scientology were created and intended to make money. I know all about Gardner and his purpose. I'm not denying that there are other people who have done the same thing with the wrong intentions.
Satanism of course used symbolism from other beliefs and misused them. Like the upside down cross, the goat of mendes, the baphomet all have nothing to do with Satanism.

[The Last Vincent]

II Esoteric II

Another post taken out of context. I was actually saying Satanism and Scientology were created and intended to make money. I know all about Gardner and his purpose. I'm not denying that there are other people who have done the same thing with the wrong intentions.
Satanism of course used symbolism from other beliefs and misused them. Like the upside down cross, the goat of mendes, the baphomet all have nothing to do with Satanism.

You didn't even mention Scientology in your previous post.
You're not referring to LaVeyan Satanism, are you?

[Malaresian Lotus]

The Last Vincent

II Esoteric II

Another post taken out of context. I was actually saying Satanism and Scientology were created and intended to make money. I know all about Gardner and his purpose. I'm not denying that there are other people who have done the same thing with the wrong intentions.
Satanism of course used symbolism from other beliefs and misused them. Like the upside down cross, the goat of mendes, the baphomet all have nothing to do with Satanism.

You didn't even mention Scientology in your previous post.
You're not referring to LaVeyan Satanism, are you?

Yes I was. There are so many broad systems that they are of course all different and some get mixed. Yes I did mention Satanism, I accidentally corrected that and put it in quickly , not in the original which I meant all religions as a whole can have a gap and things get mixed and people misunderstand the origin or facts and sometimes assume things. Now we see that even with the awareness of some of the facts people continue in them. I understand that modern religions have changed, the origins get lost.
That same goes with history. There are gaps.