Wicca

[GeminiSong]

neko wyndy wytch

How old are you?

I'm 21, so yes, I'm legal baby. wink

[the fast sunset]

Prophet of Poison

neko wyndy wytch

How old are you?

I'm 21, so yes, I'm legal baby. wink

what are you doing later? wink

[Loona Wynd]

DaveForHire

You can become wiccan as a solitary practicer.

No you can't. The rites and rituals of Wicca don't work that way. The rites and rituals must be performed a specific way. That means you must be in a coven. Otherwise the rites are with out context and cease to be Wiccan. While some rites have been published (The Gardenariean BOS for example), with out proper training and context the rites are meaningless and not effective.

DaveForHire

I myself have done so, I contacted some covens and read quite a bit of stuff before actually becoming wiccan.

Then you are not Wiccan. If you were Wiccan you'd be able to tell me the names of the Lord and Lady.

DaveForHire

My point is you can become wicca two ways

No. only one way.

DaveForHire

1st) Through a coven

Which in order to be Wiccan must trace it's linneage back to Gerald Gardner. If the training does not go back to Gerald Gardner then you are not Wiccan and the coven is not Wiccan. Also note that covens aren't specific to Wicca. Coven is a group of witches, or a group that worships and practices together. Wiccan covens are linneage based.

DaveForHire

2nd) You can self initiate yourself through a circle casting...

You can not self iniate.Here is the dictionary definition of initiate: 1. to begin, set going, or originate: to initiate major social reforms.
2. to introduce into the knowledge of some art or subject.
3. to admit or accept with formal rites into an organization or group, secret knowledge, adult society, etc.
4. to propose (a measure) by initiative procedure: to initiate a constitutional amendment.
–adjective
5. initiated; begun.
6. admitted into an organizaton or group, secret knowledge, etc.
7. ]b]introduced to the knowledge of a subject.

DaveForHire

but you MUST follow the proper order to make sure you don't do anything wrong.

And what would that proper order be?

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Genuine Addiction

Prophet of Poison

neko wyndy wytch

How old are you?

I'm 21, so yes, I'm legal baby. wink

what are you doing later? wink

Hopefully you. 3nodding

[Loona Wynd]

x-y1p33y0-x

Wiccan is just a stupid thing to be in regardless.

I fail to see how dedicating and becoming a priest of the Lord and Lady of the Isles is a stupid thing. One is called to be Wiccan. Would you consider some one in the clergy of any other religion a stupid decision?

x-y1p33y0-x

But AT LEAST wait until your 18, because while your a teenager, being Wiccan is just how you fit in with all the other angst kids.

You can't be Wiccan till your 18 any way due to the sexual nature of the rites and rituals.

[Loona Wynd]

Artistic Genocide

A lot of the 'wicca' stuff is related to teens and kids because they want to act out on their parents and such,

I will admit that I started my pagan studies as a Teen, but it was with the approval of my mother. I started as a teen because I was looking for answers that the Church just didn't have.

Artistic Genocide

but most of us on here are genuine about our beliefs, and it helps to bring up topics so we can discuss certain things if we need help.

3nodding . I come into all these threads because they help me explore my own beliefs and practices.

Artistic Genocide

I'm Not wiccan, probably will never be, but i get help for somethings related to my religion and i get advice from people who have been pagan much longer then i have through these topics.

I like you may never be Wiccan, and I have recently come to accept that fact. I have my own path.

[Loona Wynd]

Genuine Addiction

according to the people in the ED, hes wrong.

Cunningham was Wiccan. However he only reached his first degree of iniation. As such he did not get to experience all the mysteries and practices of Wicca. He was unqualified to teach let alone write a book on the subject. His book is a great book for eclectics, but it is not and never will be Wicca proper. The religion he describes is most aptly called neo-wicca.

[GaijinGuy36]

HER0 PR0TAG0NIST

wicca is a specific religion, kinda like christianity, or islam.

you cannot really be a solo practioner in wicca,you have to belong to a coven, you can be a pagan and a solo practioner, but not in wicca.

to use a parallel to judism, you cannot just read up on it and declair your self to be jewish, there is a whole procces.

though I wonder if anyone has set up a virtiual coven, through the net , for people who do not live near to others

There are plenty of solitary practitioners of Wicca out there, Hero. I'm one of them. As Mark Twain once said, 'Get your facts straight first. Then, distort them all you like.'

[Loona Wynd]

Prophet of Poison

neko wyndy wytch

Prophet of Poison

Wicca is: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, who gives a s**t. What you call yourself changes nothing.

Actually it does. Upon initiation Wiccans swear an oath to uphold and defend the rites, rituals, and practices of Wicca. Thus when some one who is uninitiated calls them selves Wiccan they are bound by their oaths to explain to them why they are not Wiccan.

It still changes nothing. The Wiccan is still the same person and the 'Wiccan' is still the same person. Also, having to defend a label is a pretty dumb oath.

Think of it this way, unless some one has gone through the proper training (PHD or MD) you wouldn't want them to be called a DR would you? Wiccans view the oath and title of Wiccan the same way. That and initiation does cause changes in your life.

[Loona Wynd]

Gaijin32

There are plenty of solitary practitioners of Wicca out there, Hero. I'm one of them. As Mark Twain once said, 'Get your facts straight first. Then, distort them all you like.'

What are the names of the God and Goddess?

What is your lineage?

[Loona Wynd]

Prophet of Poison

neko wyndy wytch

How old are you?

I'm 21, so yes, I'm legal baby. wink

confused From the way you replied to my "it's a fad" you don't act it.

[GaijinGuy36]

neko wyndy wytch

Gaijin32

There are plenty of solitary practitioners of Wicca out there, Hero. I'm one of them. As Mark Twain once said, 'Get your facts straight first. Then, distort them all you like.'

What are the names of the God and Goddess?

What is your lineage?

Which names? Different people have called them by hundreds of names over the years.

And why should I submit to the third degree from you? confused

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neko wyndy wytch

Think of it this way, unless some one has gone through the proper training (PHD or MD) you wouldn't want them to be called a DR would you?

I don't care, because when hospitals hire doctors they make sure that they have the proper training. If someone says 'I'm a doctor' I don't ask them to diagnose me, I go to a hospital for that. Also, I don't care about people with PHDs. I don't trust what people with PHDs have to say simply because they have PHDs. I trust source information, and even that, hardly.

neko wyndy wytch

Wiccans view the oath and title of Wiccan the same way. That and initiation does cause changes in your life.

The initiation and the information learned through their coven, maybe. But the title itself changes nothing.

[Loona Wynd]

Gaijin32

neko wyndy wytch

Gaijin32

There are plenty of solitary practitioners of Wicca out there, Hero. I'm one of them. As Mark Twain once said, 'Get your facts straight first. Then, distort them all you like.'

What are the names of the God and Goddess?

What is your lineage?

Which names? Different people have called them by hundreds of names over the years.

Fail. The God and Goddess of Wicca have specific names. If you were Wiccan you would know that, and you would also know the proper way to answer that question.

Gaijin32

And why should I submit to the third degree from you? confused

Wicca requires initiation and lineage to Gerald Gardner. It is quite common to have people ask for that. Now please provide your lineage.

[GeminiSong]

neko wyndy wytch

Prophet of Poison

neko wyndy wytch

How old are you?

I'm 21, so yes, I'm legal baby. wink

confused From the way you replied to my "it's a fad" you don't act it.

So?