Why same sex marriages can never be

[OneWithDunamis]

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That's not fair.
You were quoting the bible.
The bible SAYS that non virgin wives are to not exist.

So thus half the female population wouldn't be here.
You're down for that?
For them to be killed?

Which half would that be? Do you mean the unmarried half versus the married half? And which half would be killed off? The wives who are not virgins? Whose fault would that be? Usually it's the wives' fault for not being a virgin until after their weddings.

[OneWithDunamis]

RICA RIOT ooxx

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That wasn't my question.
I don't care about YOUR sloppy seconds.
Are you okay with people being murdered for having sex before marriage?
That is my question.


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Well is it murder if people receive the death penalty? I think they define murder differently.

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I'm well aware you can read.
I'll spell it out for you.

The. Women. Who. Are. Wed. If. Not. Virgins. Are. To. Be. Killed.

Are. You. Okay. With. That?

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[Kiumaru]

OneWithDunamis

Which half would that be? Do you mean the unmarried half versus the married half? And which half would be killed off? The wives who are not virgins? Whose fault would that be? Usually it's the wives' fault for not being a virgin until after their weddings.

1) You haven't accounted for the fact that men can be nonvirgins at the times of their weddings too. And it's impossible to detect so unless they contracted an STD.

2) Just because they weren't virgins doesn't mean they should be executed. Why should they be executed? There doesn't really seem to be an advantage to do so (other than discouraging women and only women to be faithful. This does not stop men from being unfaithful at all).

[OneWithDunamis]

Kiumaru

OneWithDunamis

Snowball effect. One thing leads to another. If it's just one couple, whatever. But when it becomes normal for a word to be interpreted many ways, that's trouble. Yes, there are other words in the language with more than one meaning, but enough is enough!

Slippery slope is a logical fallacy. Just because you say one thing will lead to another doesn't mean that it will and it rarely ever does. If we followed the slippery slope fallacy, we would be too afraid to do anything at all as well as if such a fallacy were true, we'd all be dead by now.

Rica: =P

OneWithDunamis: You're awfully violent. Just because they were a nonvirgin doesn't mean that they should be stoned. What about nonvirgin men who were married? Should they be stoned too? Also, please refer to my previous post about the etymology of the word "marriage".

Well now, I said nothing about stoning. Executions are totally different. And yea, same deal with non-virgin men. Why not?

Words change meaning overtime, but if we don't stick with the meaning that is currently found in dictionaries, what's the standard? Are we then free to say whatever we want and inject our own meanings into them? Are we also free to interpret what's presented to us as anything we want? The fact that we're responding to each other shows how important a commonly understood language is.

[OneWithDunamis]

Yea I answer one post at a time, a little inefficient perhaps. And I sometimes skip over people's posts by accident.

[OneWithDunamis]

RICA RIOT ooxx

♫♪Now if she does it like this xo
♫♪Will you do it like that
♫♪Now if she touches like this
♫♪Will you touch her right back


I'm well aware you can read.
I'll spell it out for you.

The. Women. Who. Are. Wed. If. Not. Virgins. Are. To. Be. Killed.

Are. You. Okay. With. That?

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Sure. The same can apply for men. Or cats.

[RICA RIOT ooxx]

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You're not answering my question.
If they went around the world today, with magic dust that reveled if women were virgins before they were wed, and 'executed' them right there on the spot, would you be okay with that?

EDIT: It doesn't say men it doesn't say cats. It says WOMEN.
And seeing as though you're okay with someone being 'executed' due to something so stupid makes you soulless.
I could never wish death on someone.



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[Kiumaru]

OneWithDunamis

Words change meaning overtime, but if we don't stick with the meaning that is currently found in dictionaries, what's the standard? Are we then free to say whatever we want and inject our own meanings into them? Are we also free to interpret what's presented to us as anything we want? The fact that we're responding to each other shows how important a commonly understood language is.

If you do not realize the contradiction there, I am sure you need to reevaluate your own argument. The standard is decided by what meaning is most prevalent. If a word has changed meaning and other people use said meaning enough, it becomes the new definition. The standard is how people use it, not the dictionary. You're arguing for keeping the word as is but fail to see that marriage itself has changed meaning from its conception:

Etymology Online

marriage
c.1300, from O.Fr. mariage (12c.), from V.L. *maritaticum, from L. maritatus, pp. of maritatre "to wed, marry, give in marriage" (see marry).
"When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until death do them part." [G.B. Shaw]
Marriage counselling first recorded 1945. Marriage bed, fig. of marital intercourse generally, is attested from 1590.

Thus, marriage has changed meaning. Yet you're saying it shouldn't change meaning so we can keep it the same despite being able to change in the first place. If we go with what you said, we should revert the word back to this original definition and go with that. (This definition is rather sexually neutral so it would allow homosexual marriage). I have to go now and have fun proving your point.

[OneWithDunamis]

RICA RIOT ooxx

♫♪Now if she does it like this xo
♫♪Will you do it like that
♫♪Now if she touches like this
♫♪Will you touch her right back


You're not answering my question.
If they went around the world today, with magic dust that reveled if women were virgins before they were wed, and 'executed' them right there on the spot, would you be okay with that?

♫♪♫Now if she moves like this
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One post before this one answered the question.

EDIT: I would argue because I care for people that I wish death upon all. Life is meaningless and a complete waste of emotions.

[RICA RIOT ooxx]

♫♪Now if she does it like this xo
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"I would argue because I care for people that I wish death upon all. Life is meaningless and a complete waste of emotions."

Then why bother arguing what other people should and shouldn't be able to do.
It's rather funny how much you contradict yourself. I've made my point.
It seems anybody who follows any sort of religion can't think for themselves.

Good day. <3

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[OneWithDunamis]

Kiumaru

OneWithDunamis

Words change meaning overtime, but if we don't stick with the meaning that is currently found in dictionaries, what's the standard? Are we then free to say whatever we want and inject our own meanings into them? Are we also free to interpret what's presented to us as anything we want? The fact that we're responding to each other shows how important a commonly understood language is.

If you do not realize the contradiction there, I am sure you need to reevaluate your own argument. The standard is decided by what meaning is most prevalent. If a word has changed meaning and other people use said meaning enough, it becomes the new definition. The standard is how people use it, not the dictionary. You're arguing for keeping the word as is but fail to see that marriage itself has changed meaning from its conception:

Etymology Online

marriage
c.1300, from O.Fr. mariage (12c.), from V.L. *maritaticum, from L. maritatus, pp. of maritatre "to wed, marry, give in marriage" (see marry).
"When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until death do them part." [G.B. Shaw]
Marriage counselling first recorded 1945. Marriage bed, fig. of marital intercourse generally, is attested from 1590.

Thus, marriage has changed meaning. Yet you're saying it shouldn't change meaning so we can keep it the same despite being able to change in the first place. If we go with what you said, we should revert the word back to this original definition and go with that. (This definition is rather sexually neutral so it would allow homosexual marriage). I have to go now and have fun proving your point.

I acknowledge the changes in the past, and I suggest that the meanings of words be fixed as they currently are. If we are to revert to the original definition, I would argue against banning same-sex marriages instead, and that'd be fine. Be since it's currently perceived as a union between man and woman, I would say no to same sex marriages for the sake of better communication.

[OneWithDunamis]

RICA RIOT ooxx

♫♪Now if she does it like this xo
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♫♪Will you touch her right back


"I would argue because I care for people that I wish death upon all. Life is meaningless and a complete waste of emotions."

Then why bother arguing what other people should and shouldn't be able to do.
It's rather funny how much you contradict yourself. I've made my point.
It seems anybody who follows any sort of religion can't think for themselves.

Good day. <3

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What religion would I be following if I say life is meaningless? Maybe there's a religion out there that has this idea in its doctrines, but I don't know of it and thus cannot follow it. So I don't follow any religion.

And I kinda have to contradict myself or else you'll take me too seriously.

[RICA RIOT ooxx]

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One last thing--
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

"I would say no to same sex marriages for the sake of better communication."

I'm willing to bet money that a woman and a woman can 'communicate' better than any woman and man could.
Not only that, their choice in life style doesn't effect yours.
Stop being so childish.

Everyone has the right to be unhappy together. <3

[Runs off to get ready for work]

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[OneWithDunamis]

RICA RIOT ooxx

♫♪Now if she does it like this xo
♫♪Will you do it like that
♫♪Now if she touches like this
♫♪Will you touch her right back


One last thing--
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

"I would say no to same sex marriages for the sake of better communication."

I'm willing to bet money that a woman and a woman can 'communicate' better than any woman and man could.
Not only that, their choice in life style doesn't effect yours.
Stop being so childish.

Everyone has the right to be unhappy together. <3

[Runs off to get ready for work]

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That's like saying smoking only hurts the smoker. IF there's only one smoker, sure.

And a woman and man can communicate much better than a woman and another woman. Physically. If you know what I mean wink