United States Army

Are you 18 or older and willing to join the United States Armed forces?

Yes Sir!	25.4%	[ 15 ]
No Way! Are you nuts?	47.5%	[ 28 ]
Give me that gold!	27.1%	[ 16 ]
Total Votes:			[ 59 ]

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Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

here you go. If we were stuck together in a barren wasteland.

Its you, me, and a female.

My instinct would be to kill you and take the female for myself.

same with if you held me back, strongest survives pal, weather mentally strong or physically strong.

Yes, that would be your instinct, as the world is today. You can't accurately predict that humanity will always be so bestial. Humanity is very young, and I think it's reasonable to assume that this instinct will become outdated.

and what do you base this hypothesis on?

you sound like one of those hippy dippy kids who gave out antiwar bracelets in my HS when the war first started.

I've rethought the female situation....I wouldnt fight you.
you wouldnt fight back for her anyway.

I'd eat you instead.

I based it on the fact that humanity is very young, and the fact that society is always progressing.

Yes, I do believe in pacifism. I abhor war; there is no reason why any two sentient beings should shed the blood of one another, in my eyes.

Yes...progressing with new bigger more deadly weapons to help kill the enemy.

Even in the earliest period of man....the newer more evolved species would go in and wipe out the previous . The stronger societies have always done this to the weaker.
your hypothesis is flawed.

Your kind of progression would turn us into those dumb asses who got eaten by the morlocks in HG Well's Time Machine.

Its great that you believe in pacifism, but if a big war broke out. I wouldn't count on you for anything. I'd probably kill you myself just to get you out of the way.

That's one hell of a battle buddy right here, man pirate

[Heartfout]

Akira Fudoh

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Raptor Mechanic

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Instinct will never become obsolete when evolution is based on survival.

If you can prove that, I'll agree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Quote:

Two major mechanisms determine which variants will become more common or rare in a population. One is natural selection, a process that causes helpful traits (those that increase the chance of survival and reproduction) to become more common in a population and causes harmful traits to become more rare. This occurs because individuals with advantageous traits are more likely to reproduce, meaning that more individuals in the next generation will inherit these traits.[2][3] Over many generations, adaptations occur through a combination of successive, small, random changes in traits, and natural selection of the variants best-suited for their environment.[4] The other major mechanism driving evolution is genetic drift, an independent process that produces random changes in the frequency of traits in a population. Genetic drift results from the role that chance plays in whether a given trait will be passed on as individuals survive and reproduce.

Wikipedia? Really?

My point was that you can't prove that the instinct of conflict will always be part of society; that can't be accurately predicted.

here you go. If we were stuck together in a barren wasteland.

Its you, me, and a female.

My instinct would be to kill you and take the female for myself.

same with if you held me back, strongest survives pal, weather mentally strong or physically strong.

Except that one of the best survival tactics humans have is cooperation. You'd be far better off focusing on finding things like food, not thinking about ********. Remember, for your genes to be passed on, she has to live at least 9 months.

And she might just kill you in your sleep if you piss her off.

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Akhenaton of man

Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

And why? So you can die in a bullshit war?

rolleyes

Sorry, but I am a bit pissed off at one of my friends. He is the only person I know of who can go into the army and come back more arrogant and immature.

Only Marines do that.

[Quarry To My Conscience]

Asevenex

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Asevenex

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Akira Fudoh

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If you can prove that, I'll agree.

are you ******** serious? burning_eyes

Yeah. I'm serious. The instinct of conflict will, I hypothesize, become obsolete.

That's like saying good can exist without evil.

Do you have applicable proof that it can't?

Everything need an opposite for natural balance. Man and woman, light and dark, good and evil.

Historically yes, but I didn't ask if good hasn't existed without evil, I asked if it can't. You didn't answer my question fully.

[Quarry To My Conscience]

Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

here you go. If we were stuck together in a barren wasteland.

Its you, me, and a female.

My instinct would be to kill you and take the female for myself.

same with if you held me back, strongest survives pal, weather mentally strong or physically strong.

Yes, that would be your instinct, as the world is today. You can't accurately predict that humanity will always be so bestial. Humanity is very young, and I think it's reasonable to assume that this instinct will become outdated.

and what do you base this hypothesis on?

you sound like one of those hippy dippy kids who gave out antiwar bracelets in my HS when the war first started.

I've rethought the female situation....I wouldnt fight you.
you wouldnt fight back for her anyway.

I'd eat you instead.

I based it on the fact that humanity is very young, and the fact that society is always progressing.

Yes, I do believe in pacifism. I abhor war; there is no reason why any two sentient beings should shed the blood of one another, in my eyes.

Yes...progressing with new bigger more deadly weapons to help kill the enemy.

Even in the earliest period of man....the newer more evolved species would go in and wipe out the previous . The stronger societies have always done this to the weaker.
your hypothesis is flawed.

Your kind of progression would turn us into those dumb asses who got eaten by the morlocks in HG Well's Time Machine.

Its great that you believe in pacifism, but if a big war broke out. I wouldn't count on you for anything. I'd probably kill you myself just to get you out of the way.

Your critique of my hypothesis is inherently flawed as you go by principles which have have existed in past society, a young society at that. You can't say that because a toddler sucks his thumb, he's always going to suck his thumb. Humanity is still a toddler, and one day, we will put such 'thumb-sucking' violence behind us, or at least so I hypothesize.

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Asevenex

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Asevenex

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Yeah. I'm serious. The instinct of conflict will, I hypothesize, become obsolete.

That's like saying good can exist without evil.

Do you have applicable proof that it can't?

Everything need an opposite for natural balance. Man and woman, light and dark, good and evil.

Historically yes, but I didn't ask if good hasn't existed without evil, I asked if it can't. You didn't answer my question fully.

No. I can't prove it. It's just one of those things that I know, but difficult to explain. Do you have proof that it can?

[Akira Fudoh]

Akhenaton of man

Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

And why? So you can die in a bullshit war?

rolleyes

Sorry, but I am a bit pissed off at one of my friends. He is the only person I know of who can go into the army and come back more arrogant and immature.

well....yeah, military teaches you that you are awesome.

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Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

And why? So you can die in a bullshit war?

rolleyes

Sorry, but I am a bit pissed off at one of my friends. He is the only person I know of who can go into the army and come back more arrogant and immature.

well....yeah, military teaches you that you are awesome.

Personal courage for the win.

[Quarry To My Conscience]

Asevenex

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Asevenex

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Asevenex

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Yeah. I'm serious. The instinct of conflict will, I hypothesize, become obsolete.

That's like saying good can exist without evil.

Do you have applicable proof that it can't?

Everything need an opposite for natural balance. Man and woman, light and dark, good and evil.

Historically yes, but I didn't ask if good hasn't existed without evil, I asked if it can't. You didn't answer my question fully.

No. I can't prove it. It's just one of those things that I know, but difficult to explain. Do you have proof that it can?

And I suppose we're in the same boat. We're both applying our experiences and systems of logic as basic algorithms which we use to formulate a picture of a future world. Unfortunately, for you and I, 'it's just one of those things that I know' doesn't hold much water, and I guess time will tell which of the two of us is correct. You've come to "know" this because of your life experience and what your view of the world has taught you, something which I could probably never fully understand, and the same applies to me. We're just using different algorithms, and only one of us will be correct in the end, I'm afraid.

[Akira Fudoh]

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Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

here you go. If we were stuck together in a barren wasteland.

Its you, me, and a female.

My instinct would be to kill you and take the female for myself.

same with if you held me back, strongest survives pal, weather mentally strong or physically strong.

Yes, that would be your instinct, as the world is today. You can't accurately predict that humanity will always be so bestial. Humanity is very young, and I think it's reasonable to assume that this instinct will become outdated.

and what do you base this hypothesis on?

you sound like one of those hippy dippy kids who gave out antiwar bracelets in my HS when the war first started.

I've rethought the female situation....I wouldnt fight you.
you wouldnt fight back for her anyway.

I'd eat you instead.

I based it on the fact that humanity is very young, and the fact that society is always progressing.

Yes, I do believe in pacifism. I abhor war; there is no reason why any two sentient beings should shed the blood of one another, in my eyes.

Yes...progressing with new bigger more deadly weapons to help kill the enemy.

Even in the earliest period of man....the newer more evolved species would go in and wipe out the previous . The stronger societies have always done this to the weaker.
your hypothesis is flawed.

Your kind of progression would turn us into those dumb asses who got eaten by the morlocks in HG Well's Time Machine.

Its great that you believe in pacifism, but if a big war broke out. I wouldn't count on you for anything. I'd probably kill you myself just to get you out of the way.

Your critique of my hypothesis is inherently flawed as you go by principles which have have existed in past society, a young society at that. You can't say that because a toddler sucks his thumb, he's always going to suck his thumb. Humanity is still a toddler, and one day, we will put such 'thumb-sucking' violence behind us, or at least so I hypothesize.

You say that humans will eventually move past aggression and finally become peace loving dorks.
I use principles from past society because its the basics.

the only real way that people would stop fighting and just get along is if they are reprogrammed to do so. and judging on how passionate about people are for their freedom...I dont think they'd like that happening.

and to compare human fighting to toddler thumb sucking is childish.
thats as strong as a PETA member trying to convince us that humans dont have a natural carnivorous instinct.
Humans are really not that young of a society.

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Asevenex

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Asevenex

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Do you have applicable proof that it can't?

Everything need an opposite for natural balance. Man and woman, light and dark, good and evil.

Historically yes, but I didn't ask if good hasn't existed without evil, I asked if it can't. You didn't answer my question fully.

No. I can't prove it. It's just one of those things that I know, but difficult to explain. Do you have proof that it can?

And I suppose we're in the same boat. We're both applying our experiences and systems of logic as basic algorithms which we use to formulate a picture of a future world. Unfortunately, for you and I, 'it's just one of those things that I know' doesn't hold much water, and I guess time will tell which of the two of us is correct. You've come to "know" this because of your life experience and what your view of the world has taught you, something which I could probably never fully understand, and the same applies to me. We're just using different algorithms, and only one of us will be correct in the end, I'm afraid.

Time heals all wounds. All we have to do is just wait, and I'm sure the answer will come to both of us.

[Akhenaton of man]

Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

And why? So you can die in a bullshit war?

rolleyes

Sorry, but I am a bit pissed off at one of my friends. He is the only person I know of who can go into the army and come back more arrogant and immature.

well....yeah, military teaches you that you are awesome.

Yet I can kick his a**.

[Akira Fudoh]

Akhenaton of man

Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

Akira Fudoh

Akhenaton of man

And why? So you can die in a bullshit war?

rolleyes

Sorry, but I am a bit pissed off at one of my friends. He is the only person I know of who can go into the army and come back more arrogant and immature.

well....yeah, military teaches you that you are awesome.

Yet I can kick his a**.

awesome isn't perfect friend.

[Quarry To My Conscience]

Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

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Akira Fudoh

and what do you base this hypothesis on?

you sound like one of those hippy dippy kids who gave out antiwar bracelets in my HS when the war first started.

I've rethought the female situation....I wouldnt fight you.
you wouldnt fight back for her anyway.

I'd eat you instead.

I based it on the fact that humanity is very young, and the fact that society is always progressing.

Yes, I do believe in pacifism. I abhor war; there is no reason why any two sentient beings should shed the blood of one another, in my eyes.

Yes...progressing with new bigger more deadly weapons to help kill the enemy.

Even in the earliest period of man....the newer more evolved species would go in and wipe out the previous . The stronger societies have always done this to the weaker.
your hypothesis is flawed.

Your kind of progression would turn us into those dumb asses who got eaten by the morlocks in HG Well's Time Machine.

Its great that you believe in pacifism, but if a big war broke out. I wouldn't count on you for anything. I'd probably kill you myself just to get you out of the way.

Your critique of my hypothesis is inherently flawed as you go by principles which have have existed in past society, a young society at that. You can't say that because a toddler sucks his thumb, he's always going to suck his thumb. Humanity is still a toddler, and one day, we will put such 'thumb-sucking' violence behind us, or at least so I hypothesize.

You say that humans will eventually move past aggression and finally become peace loving dorks.
I use principles from past society because its the basics.

the only real way that people would stop fighting and just get along is if they are reprogrammed to do so. and judging on how passionate about people are for their freedom...I dont think they'd like that happening.

and to compare human fighting to toddler thumb sucking is childish.
thats as strong as a PETA member trying to convince us that humans dont have a natural carnivorous instinct.
Humans are really not that young of a society.

We're only a couple hundred thousand years old. That's really young. We have a lot of room to grow.

I'm not saying we don't have those instincts, I'm saying that it's irrational to say that we always will have them.

[Quarry To My Conscience]

Asevenex

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Asevenex

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Asevenex

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Do you have applicable proof that it can't?

Everything need an opposite for natural balance. Man and woman, light and dark, good and evil.

Historically yes, but I didn't ask if good hasn't existed without evil, I asked if it can't. You didn't answer my question fully.

No. I can't prove it. It's just one of those things that I know, but difficult to explain. Do you have proof that it can?

And I suppose we're in the same boat. We're both applying our experiences and systems of logic as basic algorithms which we use to formulate a picture of a future world. Unfortunately, for you and I, 'it's just one of those things that I know' doesn't hold much water, and I guess time will tell which of the two of us is correct. You've come to "know" this because of your life experience and what your view of the world has taught you, something which I could probably never fully understand, and the same applies to me. We're just using different algorithms, and only one of us will be correct in the end, I'm afraid.

Time heals all wounds. All we have to do is just wait, and I'm sure the answer will come to both of us.

4laugh Of course.