Transgender Issues- not just "men in dresses"

Are you affected by trans issues?

Yes- I'm trans/I think I might be trans	16.2%	[ 919 ]
Yes- I have a trans friend or relative	12.1%	[ 687 ]
Indirectly- I have a trans acquaintance	6.0%	[ 341 ]
Not directly, but I feel these issues affect me indirectly/ I feel that these issues affect everyone	23.5%	[ 1336 ]
Not at all	31.1%	[ 1766 ]
I don't know	11.1%	[ 630 ]
Total Votes:			[ 5679 ]

[Aino Ailill]

shadowninja5611

as long as they keep it away from me im cool

Any specific radius that they must maintain? 100ft?

[Captain Verd]

Tuah

Yaminon: I always hear about how even transguys hate body hair. It's nice to see someone who doesn't mind it too much. xD


Blairnensha: Meh, I don't care much for makeup really. At least not past the goth eye stuff, and maybe an occasional something for the lips. Besides, the only foundation I've ever found that was light enough to even match my skin tone was sold during Halloween. ;P

I think Sephora has a SUPER SUPER pale foundation. My sister spent for-ever trying to find one that matched hers, and I'm pretty sure she got it there. Expensive though.

[Niran_Betta_Fish]

Hey, these people are looking for FTms who haven't started T yet or you only just started (one month or less) for a longitudinal study:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecs9hphpmBE

[e-mail]

[Captain Verd]

Don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/283012,bank-employee-undergoing-sex-change-objects-to-genderless-toilet.html

This woman (the article calls her a he and the terms are all ******** up, of course) is having her surgery in November. She officially switched "genders", which I assume means she's now living as a woman like, everywhere, getting papers and s**t, is upset because HSBC in China installed a genderless toilet for her to use.

I know a lot of you are FOR gender neutral toilets, but this person is lodging a discrimination complaint. It actually kind of makes me mad, because you know people don't see stories about trans folk being appreciative of gender neutral toilets. They're just gonna go GOD DAMN UNGRATEFUL TRANNIES BURN 'EM ALL and s**t sad

[e-Claire rc1]

Captain Verd

Don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/283012,bank-employee-undergoing-sex-change-objects-to-genderless-toilet.html

This woman (the article calls her a he and the terms are all ******** up, of course) is having her surgery in November. She officially switched "genders", which I assume means she's now living as a woman like, everywhere, getting papers and s**t, is upset because HSBC in China installed a genderless toilet for her to use.

I know a lot of you are FOR gender neutral toilets, but this person is lodging a discrimination complaint. It actually kind of makes me mad, because you know people don't see stories about trans folk being appreciative of gender neutral toilets. They're just gonna go GOD DAMN UNGRATEFUL TRANNIES BURN 'EM ALL and s**t sad

To be fair, "We installed a special toilet for you so you don't have to mix with the rest of us" isn't exactly a compliment. Most are in favour of gender-neutral toilets for everyone, for economical and common sense reasons as much as the non-binary rights reasons. But you're right, that's not what the public is gonna see when they read that article.

[Captain Verd]

Blairnensha

Captain Verd

Don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/283012,bank-employee-undergoing-sex-change-objects-to-genderless-toilet.html

This woman (the article calls her a he and the terms are all ******** up, of course) is having her surgery in November. She officially switched "genders", which I assume means she's now living as a woman like, everywhere, getting papers and s**t, is upset because HSBC in China installed a genderless toilet for her to use.

I know a lot of you are FOR gender neutral toilets, but this person is lodging a discrimination complaint. It actually kind of makes me mad, because you know people don't see stories about trans folk being appreciative of gender neutral toilets. They're just gonna go GOD DAMN UNGRATEFUL TRANNIES BURN 'EM ALL and s**t sad

To be fair, "We installed a special toilet for you so you don't have to mix with the rest of us" isn't exactly a compliment. Most are in favour of gender-neutral toilets for everyone, for economical and common sense reasons as much as the non-binary rights reasons. But you're right, that's not what the public is gonna see when they read that article.

No, it isn't a compliment, but it's better than forcing her to use the men's toilet. Sometimes I think people forget that baby steps are still steps.

[Yaminon]

Captain Verd

Blairnensha

Captain Verd

Don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/283012,bank-employee-undergoing-sex-change-objects-to-genderless-toilet.html

This woman (the article calls her a he and the terms are all ******** up, of course) is having her surgery in November. She officially switched "genders", which I assume means she's now living as a woman like, everywhere, getting papers and s**t, is upset because HSBC in China installed a genderless toilet for her to use.

I know a lot of you are FOR gender neutral toilets, but this person is lodging a discrimination complaint. It actually kind of makes me mad, because you know people don't see stories about trans folk being appreciative of gender neutral toilets. They're just gonna go GOD DAMN UNGRATEFUL TRANNIES BURN 'EM ALL and s**t sad

To be fair, "We installed a special toilet for you so you don't have to mix with the rest of us" isn't exactly a compliment. Most are in favour of gender-neutral toilets for everyone, for economical and common sense reasons as much as the non-binary rights reasons. But you're right, that's not what the public is gonna see when they read that article.

No, it isn't a compliment, but it's better than forcing her to use the men's toilet. Sometimes I think people forget that baby steps are still steps.

Doesn't mean we need to be quiet about injustices even if things are improving. :/

[Origin of Wealth]

Aino Ailill

shadowninja5611

as long as they keep it away from me im cool

Any specific radius that they must maintain? 100ft?

Or better yet. keep what?

[Sayin]

Tuah

Blairnensha

Tuah

Umbral_Necropolitan

Kaosgirl

DamenAJ

But yeah. If I heard someone say that I'd think either they were REALLY whipped,

Maybe literally... I'm suddenly thinking of the 'forced feminization' kink in BDSM :p

Damnit, now I am wishing my gf was into that...

Makes me sad that I'm more adept and into style, makeup, and such than her. Stuck getting style get my fem tips from my mother, not that bad I guess since she is a beautician but still awkward sometimes.

Uh oh... I just realized that I've never bought a bra before. I got a sports one for some inserts, but now I'm starting to develop for real... >.>

This'll be awkward as well! xD

You should get Sophie to give you some pointers on voice training. Her results are truly amazing.

I think my voice is pretty good now actually. Still have the face to work on... -_-

Congrats, you are growing boobs lol. Why do you say that, I saw a pic of you and looked fine. You're asian, you're naturally fem looking =P.

[Captain Verd]

Yaminon

Doesn't mean we need to be quiet about injustices even if things are improving. :/

True, but sometimes bitching and screaming isn't the best choice. Many places aren't willing to even do what HSBC did, even if you don't think it goes far enough.

There just aren't a whole lot of trans people, especially vocal ones, or people willing to fight for trans issues. So, unfortunately, there aren't a lot of people to back a big outcry when someone says "Well gee Suzie, your d**k getting removed still makes us not really think you're a chick, sooooooo new bathroom". Sometimes it's best to be patient, even if that's hard.

[Kaosgirl]

Captain Verd

Blairnensha

Captain Verd

Don't know if this has been posted yet:
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/283012,bank-employee-undergoing-sex-change-objects-to-genderless-toilet.html

This woman (the article calls her a he and the terms are all ******** up, of course) is having her surgery in November. She officially switched "genders", which I assume means she's now living as a woman like, everywhere, getting papers and s**t, is upset because HSBC in China installed a genderless toilet for her to use.

I know a lot of you are FOR gender neutral toilets, but this person is lodging a discrimination complaint. It actually kind of makes me mad, because you know people don't see stories about trans folk being appreciative of gender neutral toilets. They're just gonna go GOD DAMN UNGRATEFUL TRANNIES BURN 'EM ALL and s**t sad

To be fair, "We installed a special toilet for you so you don't have to mix with the rest of us" isn't exactly a compliment. Most are in favour of gender-neutral toilets for everyone, for economical and common sense reasons as much as the non-binary rights reasons. But you're right, that's not what the public is gonna see when they read that article.

No, it isn't a compliment, but it's better than forcing her to use the men's toilet. Sometimes I think people forget that baby steps are still steps.

And sometimes, baby steps are movements to the side instead of forwards; a way to pretend to do something while actually doing nothing. In which case, being patient is just accepting the con-job.

According to the story she was assigned to the genderless toilet. Which, to me, implies it was already there for some other reason and they requested/insisted that she use that one exclusively.

Granted, this is not the full story; it's a quick writeup by a journalist who either doesn't understand or respect transgender identities (obvious from his pronoun usage). But if that interpretation of the scenario is correct, then the comparison isn't with forcing her to use the men's toilet; it's with allowing her the option of the men's room or the genderless toilet.

Again, though, I don't have the full story.

[Captain Verd]

Kaosgirl

Granted, this is not the full story; it's a quick writeup by a journalist who either doesn't understand or respect transgender identities (obvious from his pronoun usage). But if that interpretation of the scenario is correct, then the comparison isn't with forcing her to use the men's toilet; it's with allowing her the option of the men's room or the genderless toilet.

Again, though, I don't have the full story.

That's what I'm thinking. The journalist clearly doesn't know the subject, so we don't really know.

[Recursive Paradox]

shadowninja5611

as long as they keep it away from me im cool

Keep what away? p***s? o_O

@Tuah: I am a vocal ninja.

Aino Ailill

Make certain they fit well! Bras can be hella uncomfortable when they don't fit correctly.

I second this. x_x

[Tuah]

Sayin

Tuah

Blairnensha

Tuah

Umbral_Necropolitan

Damnit, now I am wishing my gf was into that...

Makes me sad that I'm more adept and into style, makeup, and such than her. Stuck getting style get my fem tips from my mother, not that bad I guess since she is a beautician but still awkward sometimes.

Uh oh... I just realized that I've never bought a bra before. I got a sports one for some inserts, but now I'm starting to develop for real... >.>

This'll be awkward as well! xD

You should get Sophie to give you some pointers on voice training. Her results are truly amazing.

I think my voice is pretty good now actually. Still have the face to work on... -_-

Congrats, you are growing boobs lol. Why do you say that, I saw a pic of you and looked fine. You're asian, you're naturally fem looking =P.

As much as I may act Asian, I'm not. xD
I'm so white, when I go walking at night I don't have to wear anything reflective, I get sunburned standing in front of the TV, and I can make peoples' retinas burn by holding my arm up to a light.
And I haven't taken pictures of myself in years. I wonder who it was? >.>


@Recursive Paradox: I like to do impressions of different kinds of cats meowing. Know what Ninja Cat sounds like?


It doesn't!

[Sayin]

Tuah

Sayin

Tuah

Blairnensha

Tuah

Umbral_Necropolitan

Damnit, now I am wishing my gf was into that...

Makes me sad that I'm more adept and into style, makeup, and such than her. Stuck getting style get my fem tips from my mother, not that bad I guess since she is a beautician but still awkward sometimes.

Uh oh... I just realized that I've never bought a bra before. I got a sports one for some inserts, but now I'm starting to develop for real... >.>

This'll be awkward as well! xD

You should get Sophie to give you some pointers on voice training. Her results are truly amazing.

I think my voice is pretty good now actually. Still have the face to work on... -_-

Congrats, you are growing boobs lol. Why do you say that, I saw a pic of you and looked fine. You're asian, you're naturally fem looking =P.

As much as I may act Asian, I'm not. xD
I'm so white, when I go walking at night I don't have to wear anything reflective, I get sunburned standing in front of the TV, and I can make peoples' retinas burn by holding my arm up to a light.
And I haven't taken pictures of myself in years. I wonder who it was? >.>


@Recursive Paradox: I like to do impressions of different kinds of cats meowing. Know what Ninja Cat sounds like?


It doesn't!

Oh wow, I did it again. I know who I got you confused for, but I don't know why I confused you with them.