Transgender Issues- not just "men in dresses"

Are you affected by trans issues?

Yes- I'm trans/I think I might be trans	16.2%	[ 919 ]
Yes- I have a trans friend or relative	12.1%	[ 687 ]
Indirectly- I have a trans acquaintance	6.0%	[ 341 ]
Not directly, but I feel these issues affect me indirectly/ I feel that these issues affect everyone	23.5%	[ 1336 ]
Not at all	31.1%	[ 1766 ]
I don't know	11.1%	[ 630 ]
Total Votes:			[ 5679 ]

[DysPerDis]

I like confusing people, myself. I get the sir/miss thing all the time. I like to think that I make others consider gender stereotypes and society's need to define a person by their genitalia- though, really, that's probably too much to ask most of the time.

It makes going to the bar a b***h and a half, though- I seriously look prepubescent.

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DysPerDis

I like confusing people, myself. I get the sir/miss thing all the time. I like to think that I make others consider gender stereotypes and society's need to define a person by their genitalia- though, really, that's probably too much to ask most of the time.

It makes going to the bar a b***h and a half, though- I seriously look prepubescent.

Welcome to my world. There were times when I would get carded at movies even though I was clearly of age.

[Torcimento Destino]

Taineyah

I would like to say this, and hopefully you'll consider it on topic.

The measure of a human being lies not in whether what is between their legs matches what is in their mind, but in how they treat others.

It's that simple.

I can't agree more. Why does it matter so much, if a human being wants to dress diffrently than we as humans have sterotyped each gender to dress or act? A man or woman who wants to act like the opposite gender is going to act like the opposite gender and you can't stop them.

[DysPerDis]

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DysPerDis

I like confusing people, myself. I get the sir/miss thing all the time. I like to think that I make others consider gender stereotypes and society's need to define a person by their genitalia- though, really, that's probably too much to ask most of the time.

It makes going to the bar a b***h and a half, though- I seriously look prepubescent.

Welcome to my world. There were times when I would get carded at movies even though I was clearly of age.

*cringes* I rarely, if ever, go to the movies, so I don't know if I look that young, though judging from some of the reactions I've seen, it could be.

The most embarrassing thing I've had to deal with so far was the lady who seemed to think my id was fake when I went to buy smokes- at the same supermarket I bloody well work in! Even after one of my other co-workers told her it was OK, she was still glaring at me.

[Prince Rilian]

I got into an R rated movie. They didn't ask for ID. I was 16 and I was with a 17 year old. It was just the two of us.

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Rilian

I got into an R rated movie. They didn't ask for ID. I was 16 and I was with a 17 year old. It was just the two of us.

The issue is typically with FTMs that are without HRT at that time or androgynes that look boyish, because then they are most easily mistaken for being underaged. And society tends to flag underaged boys more than underaged girls. Facial hair, or a lack of, can really screw a person over. As well as overall bone structure.

[Prince Rilian]

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Rilian

I got into an R rated movie. They didn't ask for ID. I was 16 and I was with a 17 year old. It was just the two of us.

The issue is typically with FTMs that are without HRT at that time or androgynes that look boyish, because then they are most easily mistaken for being underaged. And society tends to flag underaged boys more than underaged girls. Facial hair, or a lack of, can really screw a person over. As well as overall bone structure.

Yeah. When I was 17, an old woman mistook me for a ~13 year old boy.

Edit: Actually, I think I was 19... No, I don't remember anymore. Anyway, I was old, and I had boobs.

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DysPerDis

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DysPerDis

Ugh. I know how you feel- right now, my best case scenario involves moving far away so that I won't be here to witness the fallout when I tell anyone but a few close friends.

Fortunately for me, the bakery in our store is right beside the customer bathroom, which is a gender neutral/handicap washroom, so I don't have to use a gendered bathroom and risk any problems.

I hate my uniform, though. It looks incredibly feminine on me- I think it's the apron that does it, as it's way too long and the ties are right around my waist, so it not only looks like a dress, but emphasises my curves.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I knew how to create body illusion a month after I started my pub phase...heh, my workplace is somewhere in the central station...(I live in Montreal, so it's a real different scenario...er, your train station vs mine...>_> wink Yeah, people can be quite stressing, 'specially when you grow attatch to them, hence I'm anti-social. I mean, I'd join clubs and all that whatnot, but I'm not joining the social events, it's really stressful. I'm slowly severing the ties with those whom I'm not seeing in a long while and to those whom I'm not planning on seeing for a long while...it's stressful to have friends in your circle who can't seem to get pass the idea of the "normal" world and being bound by the laws of religions and such...bleh...

I'm practically living a double life, both as a male and a female, although the only difference between mine and other's is the name. I know my definition of body perfection is androgyny. Although I would not mind being a man. Nor a female for that matter...hence the desire to shape-shift...I have to admit, when I was still in high school, being myself wasn't stressful nor close to a "burden"-like thing, even with the occasional "You should be more feminine" and the "You're weird" bash. I have contemplated death and transitioning from time to time, but never serious. If this world didn't have this binary and/or social norm s**t, I'd prolly die a happy cross-dresser... sweatdrop

(And this means I can never enjoy a good swim ever again... stare and for once, it's not because of under-tanning and cellulose...I could care less, lol 3nodding )

Apparently going to the washroom when it's a gendered one, feels like having an impending doom-freak sign on my head xd .

I'm feelin' a li'l cocky right now, so I'll say this: Life (or insert another word) is like a diaper, it needs to be changed...'cause it's full of s**t!

Bah! Thanks for listening/reading, I usually don't pour my heart out...but hey, Merry X'mas everyone biggrin

Merry Xmas to you, too- even though it's actually boxing day...

I know what you mean about the "doom-freak sign." I've gotten to the point where, unless it's a single-person bathroom (you know, where there's no actual stalls and just the one toilet) I have a minor freak out about which one to use, and how well I pass >.<

If you're ever in the Vancouver BC area in the summer time, let me know, and we can hijack my aunt's pool- it's the only place I can swim anymore. Hooray for pools on private property!

Anti-socialness is a way of life for me. My rule is, if they treat me like a girl, I spend as little time as possible with them. I'm lucky enough to have some good friends, though, who really don't give a s**t about things like that. I tend to get recruited into clubs that they run, and I do go to the events- it helps, though, that they hold stuff like "gender bender night," which would be interesting even if I weren't friends with them.

biggrin Awesome, I'll keep that in mind, thanks for offering biggrin . I gladly appreciate it. Yeah, it's Boxing Day in your area, but it was X'mas in Montreal O_o...or me think...anyways. Meh, if dudes treats me like a girly girl, I'd just beat them in a game and I'll just go: "HAH! You just got pwned by a girl!" It usually takes off the grin on their faces 3nodding .

This is why my circle of friends stays small, I only keep contact with those who treats me like a person...or an entity xd Lol, kidding, but you get the point. In fact, I have three circle of friends, I have one (IRL) that I keep, the small one. I have (also IRL) a larger circle of...I'd much rather call them aquaintances. And I have one on the net. Honestly, I love the one person washrooms, they are fantastic. I don't have to fear people that fears me...talk about irony! sweatdrop I usually go in fast, and god do I feel like a burglar! xd On days...I had to watch that the coast is clear, you know how women stall in the washroom >_> They practically hog the mirrors...it's like a ritual of some sort xd

The best thing ever is that people like you for who you are.

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Rilian

projectXIII_tml

No kidding, I get that sometimes, but thank God for plain uniforms biggrin . I usually get the emphasized "Miss" or "Madame", god I hate those! As if I don't already know! gonk

Yeah, I've gotten that, too. In one of the last days of the semester, I went to the food court and the guy making the hamburgers called me sir. When I turned towards him to make my order, he said, "Oh, not sir" And I said, "Yes, please, call me sir." He and the person next to me laughed, and then we all moved on. I wonder what, if anything, they thought about it.

I guess to them, by definition, there's only a binary system, so they just think: "Heh heh, ah, this kid is funny...(or weird)"

How can we blame them? rofl They were blessed with the bliss of not having the strangest inner conflict... sweatdrop Well, they do, but in every other ways minus being transgendered.

Meh, don't worry, people are like that. Many were never exposed to the "real" world, many things/issues are underrug swept and well kept untill one day they just simply burst out of proportions, that is...perhaps the one of the explaination behind the phobia or the not being able to understand anything beyond their casual life razz .

Sigh...oh well, c'est la vie! sweatdrop

Heh heh, I'm aiming on getting full tone when singing notes in the Baritone section, then I can talk low using "speech singing" levels. I have been able to speak... .... ...think of an acoustic guitar, the first, thickest string, your low E string, yes. I can speak that low on days (usually around E to F) smile But again, I can sometime lose the lownest of it and end up speaking in D...(around the 5th fret of your A string...) If you have no idea what I'm talking about, youtube some guitar tuning vids wink .

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Rilian

My sister had short hair for a few years when we were young, because she got lice and her mother's solution was to cut off all her hair. She was constantly mistaken for a boy. I think she's a girl.

What makes me laugh sometimes, is the fact that people who don't want to be mistaken for the opposite sex always seems to be the one to be mistaken for or tries their best to avoid being mistaken for it...somehow, those who tries too hard at being the opposite can end up being a bit disturbing...the actions are sometimes over-exagerated and it can show...I usually don't mind being call any of the both (sir have always sounded better...minus potty time...), but at work, I demand to be called sir smile ...or esle! scream I's go evil on you!!!

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DysPerDis

I like confusing people, myself. I get the sir/miss thing all the time. I like to think that I make others consider gender stereotypes and society's need to define a person by their genitalia- though, really, that's probably too much to ask most of the time.

It makes going to the bar a b***h and a half, though- I seriously look prepubescent.

Welcome to my world. There were times when I would get carded at movies even though I was clearly of age.

I get carded a lot...apparently to some, either I seem way older than my age, or way younger...it's odd, meh, if people see me as a guy, they usually think I'm 17 or so.

To Dys: I agree, the world is based on terminologies that have directed the world to communicate better...but also by doing that, it simply makes it harder for anyone who don't fit in the gender stereotype system to get by...

The sir/miss thing makes me laugh a lot, it's either I'm "unattractive manly woman" or "a young man". Which makes it the more funnier 'cause I had a couple of girls who were interested in me untill they found out from a friend that I'm not a man *insert record stop/scratch sound*...ah, the world is so funny sometimes. rolleyes

Apparently, music store clearks treats the female population as posers who can't play more than a few chords and sing songs about rainbows and such...can't wait 'til the day this store clerk finds out who I really am xd ...somehow I love to slap reality on their faces...and watch their slow painful...moment...of realisation. Of course, I'll wait 'til someone tell him, I'm not.

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DysPerDis

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DysPerDis

I like confusing people, myself. I get the sir/miss thing all the time. I like to think that I make others consider gender stereotypes and society's need to define a person by their genitalia- though, really, that's probably too much to ask most of the time.

It makes going to the bar a b***h and a half, though- I seriously look prepubescent.

Welcome to my world. There were times when I would get carded at movies even though I was clearly of age.

*cringes* I rarely, if ever, go to the movies, so I don't know if I look that young, though judging from some of the reactions I've seen, it could be.

The most embarrassing thing I've had to deal with so far was the lady who seemed to think my id was fake when I went to buy smokes- at the same supermarket I bloody well work in! Even after one of my other co-workers told her it was OK, she was still glaring at me.

Some people just can't seem to get it into their heads...

The lady who works in the driving test thing was so convinced that I was a boy that she asked me if the F on my sex was not an error. That was unavoidable, but it made me smile, nevertheless. But often workers are so convinced about me that they never look at the sex category of my med card (which makes me wonder why they hold it up to read it for so long...are they in denial or just being polite? sweatdrop ). I'd much rather when a card doesn't display it...

[Kladeos]

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Rilian

My sister had short hair for a few years when we were young, because she got lice and her mother's solution was to cut off all her hair. She was constantly mistaken for a boy. I think she's a girl.

What makes me laugh sometimes, is the fact that people who don't want to be mistaken for the opposite sex always seems to be the one to be mistaken for or tries their best to avoid being mistaken for it...somehow, those who tries too hard at being the opposite can end up being a bit disturbing...the actions are sometimes over-exagerated and it can show...I usually don't mind being call any of the both (sir have always sounded better...minus potty time...), but at work, I demand to be called sir smile ...or esle! scream I's go evil on you!!!

Being called sir is awesome. I hate how you're supposed to take offense when someone teases you about looking like the opposite sex - for example, a girl I know likes telling me that I "look like a little boy", which I consider a compliment. It's hard to pretend that you care (in a negative sense) when you don't.

Happy New Year's, everyone. =D

[Jill_Pole]

Kladeos

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Rilian

My sister had short hair for a few years when we were young, because she got lice and her mother's solution was to cut off all her hair. She was constantly mistaken for a boy. I think she's a girl.

What makes me laugh sometimes, is the fact that people who don't want to be mistaken for the opposite sex always seems to be the one to be mistaken for or tries their best to avoid being mistaken for it...somehow, those who tries too hard at being the opposite can end up being a bit disturbing...the actions are sometimes over-exagerated and it can show...I usually don't mind being call any of the both (sir have always sounded better...minus potty time...), but at work, I demand to be called sir smile ...or esle! scream I's go evil on you!!!

Being called sir is awesome. I hate how you're supposed to take offense when someone teases you about looking like the opposite sex - for example, a girl I know likes telling me that I "look like a little boy", which I consider a compliment. It's hard to pretend that you care (in a negative sense) when you don't.

Happy New Year's, everyone. =D

A sexual partner of mine said that my short hair on my head and unshaven pubic hair made him feel like he was with another boy... It's so stupid to say that I look boyish. I don't. I look me-ish. Do you like me or not?