Transgender Issues- not just "men in dresses"

Are you affected by trans issues?

Yes- I'm trans/I think I might be trans	16.2%	[ 919 ]
Yes- I have a trans friend or relative	12.1%	[ 687 ]
Indirectly- I have a trans acquaintance	6.0%	[ 341 ]
Not directly, but I feel these issues affect me indirectly/ I feel that these issues affect everyone	23.5%	[ 1336 ]
Not at all	31.1%	[ 1766 ]
I don't know	11.1%	[ 630 ]
Total Votes:			[ 5679 ]

[Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori]

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Chaotic Fury

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I'm going to eat dinner :3

Bye, fake people and fake people lovers!

*Twitch* Hun, if you want to learn the truth about us transsexuals and transgendered, why don't you come to my place and I'll make a trans-man outta you. ;D*Twitch*
Aaaaanyway, people like her are what make my life a living hell, as they must for some of you too. I go to a school where if I was to come out as transsexual, they would lynch me and brutally beat my corpse. The only reason I even feel a bit safe there is that I keep my mouth shut about it. I just can't understand though, what the feck is the point of following traditional gender roles if not just to cover our asses so we don't get beaten to death by biggots? And why are people so damn afraid that someone might do something different than what society tells them to?
Also, why is there even a way that each sex is supposed to act? It doesn't make any sense! D:

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Then you're an idiot for not listening to reason. You continually ask these people for scientific proof of transexuality, while at the same time saying you don't care what science says, you KNOW it's fake. You are not here to debate, but rather to piss off normal people with your half-assed, immature, backwardsly religious opinions, which you continually refuse to give proof for.

Get Out.

[GDs Wrath]

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Chaotic Fury

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I'm going to eat dinner :3

Bye, fake people and fake people lovers!

*Twitch* Hun, if you want to learn the truth about us transsexuals and transgendered, why don't you come to my place and I'll make a trans-man outta you. ;D*Twitch*
Aaaaanyway, people like her are what make my life a living hell, as they must for some of you too. I go to a school where if I was to come out as transsexual, they would lynch me and brutally beat my corpse. The only reason I even feel a bit safe there is that I keep my mouth shut about it. I just can't understand though, what the feck is the point of following traditional gender roles if not just to cover our asses so we don't get beaten to death by biggots? And why are people so damn afraid that someone might do something different than what society tells them to?
Also, why is there even a way that each sex is supposed to act? It doesn't make any sense! D:

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Everyone saw it, right? I offerred him an easy out before bitchslapping him with the dictionary? This is his very last warning. If you do not want me to completely disprove you in very few words, please withdraw now.

"him?"

'Scuse me...I'm not a Transy...

Slap me all you want with text I don't really care.

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Again, care to provide some proof that refutes what the OP has already presented?

Again, I don't have any.

I don't have to have proof to think the way I do either.

I don't see why they can't be happy with the bodies they're born with.

Because the shape of their brain causes their mind and body to react to certain things differently, including the body itself. The brain has segments or is shaped completely like the brain of the opposite sex.

[GDs Wrath]

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Chaotic Fury

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I'm going to eat dinner :3

Bye, fake people and fake people lovers!

*Twitch* Hun, if you want to learn the truth about us transsexuals and transgendered, why don't you come to my place and I'll make a trans-man outta you. ;D*Twitch*
Aaaaanyway, people like her are what make my life a living hell, as they must for some of you too. I go to a school where if I was to come out as transsexual, they would lynch me and brutally beat my corpse. The only reason I even feel a bit safe there is that I keep my mouth shut about it. I just can't understand though, what the feck is the point of following traditional gender roles if not just to cover our asses so we don't get beaten to death by biggots? And why are people so damn afraid that someone might do something different than what society tells them to?
Also, why is there even a way that each sex is supposed to act? It doesn't make any sense! D:

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Then you're an idiot for not listening to reason. You continually ask these people for scientific proof of transexuality, while at the same time saying you don't care what science says, you KNOW it's fake. You are not here to debate, but rather to piss off normal people with your half-assed, immature, backwardsly religious opinions, which you continually refuse to give proof for.

Get Out.

First of all, I'm not religious, at all.

Second, I never asked for any proof of anything,

Third, I'd hardly call transvestites normal

and fourth, I will not get out.

[GDs Wrath]

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

error[dot]exe

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Again, care to provide some proof that refutes what the OP has already presented?

Again, I don't have any.

I don't have to have proof to think the way I do either.

I don't see why they can't be happy with the bodies they're born with.

Because the shape of their brain causes their mind and body to react to certain things differently, including the body itself. The brain has segments or is shaped completely like the brain of the opposite sex.

Why?

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Then you're an idiot for not listening to reason. You continually ask these people for scientific proof of transexuality, while at the same time saying you don't care what science says, you KNOW it's fake. You are not here to debate, but rather to piss off normal people with your half-assed, immature, backwardsly religious opinions, which you continually refuse to give proof for.

Get Out.

First of all, I'm not religious, at all.

Second, I never asked for any proof of anything,

Third, I'd hardly call transvestites normal

and fourth, I will not get out.

Transsexuals are not transvestites. Learn the difference, or get out.

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Again, care to provide some proof that refutes what the OP has already presented?

Again, I don't have any.

I don't have to have proof to think the way I do either.

I don't see why they can't be happy with the bodies they're born with.

Because the shape of their brain causes their mind and body to react to certain things differently, including the body itself. The brain has segments or is shaped completely like the brain of the opposite sex.

Why?

The cause is unknown. Scientists are still trying to find out. However, some of the theories include hormone imbalances in the womb, the same that are thought to cause homosexuality.

[GDs Wrath]

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Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Then you're an idiot for not listening to reason. You continually ask these people for scientific proof of transexuality, while at the same time saying you don't care what science says, you KNOW it's fake. You are not here to debate, but rather to piss off normal people with your half-assed, immature, backwardsly religious opinions, which you continually refuse to give proof for.

Get Out.

First of all, I'm not religious, at all.

Second, I never asked for any proof of anything,

Third, I'd hardly call transvestites normal

and fourth, I will not get out.

Transsexuals are not transvestites. Learn the difference, or get out.

I'm not getting ouuut scream

[GDs Wrath]

error[dot]exe

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

error[dot]exe

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

error[dot]exe

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Again, care to provide some proof that refutes what the OP has already presented?

Again, I don't have any.

I don't have to have proof to think the way I do either.

I don't see why they can't be happy with the bodies they're born with.

Because the shape of their brain causes their mind and body to react to certain things differently, including the body itself. The brain has segments or is shaped completely like the brain of the opposite sex.

Why?

The cause is unknown. Scientists are still trying to find out. However, some of the theories include hormone imbalances in the womb, the same that are thought to cause homosexuality.

You guys are right.

I DID make a fool out of myself xD

And this whole time, I thought the title said, "Transvestites"

@_@

*slinks away*

[Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori]

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Kuroi Kokoro no Mendori

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

I don't treat them different, I just don't think they're really what gender they claim to be.

Gender is mental. Sex is physical. If you claim to be a sex, before a reassignment surgery, that does not match your genitalia, then no, you are not that sex. You can, however, be that gender. After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

I still think they're men in dresses :/

Then you're an idiot for not listening to reason. You continually ask these people for scientific proof of transexuality, while at the same time saying you don't care what science says, you KNOW it's fake. You are not here to debate, but rather to piss off normal people with your half-assed, immature, backwardsly religious opinions, which you continually refuse to give proof for.

Get Out.

First of all, I'm not religious, at all.

Second, I never asked for any proof of anything,

Third, I'd hardly call transvestites normal

and fourth, I will not get out.

First, if you have no proof of something, yet continue to shout it to the world, ignoring their proof, you are either religious or stupid. Would you prefer to be stupid?

Second,

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

RMarques

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Gender is not mental, it's physical

It's mental. Do NOT make me start whipping you with the dictionary.

Physical mad

Prove it.

Prove that it isn't mad

Third, I didn't say that everyone on this thread was a transvestite. If you do, then I guess you really ARE stupid.

Fourth, Extended Dicussion Rules and Guidelines

[Xillania]

Taineyah

After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

Nitpicking: Even for the most passable of transpeople, chromosomes and lack of ovaries/uterus can still reveal the birth sex, as can a transguy's p***s (unless there's something new I don't know about, the surgery still sucks.)

[Taineyah]

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Everyone saw it, right? I offerred him an easy out before bitchslapping him with the dictionary? This is his very last warning. If you do not want me to completely disprove you in very few words, please withdraw now.

"him?"

'Scuse me...I'm not a Transy...

Slap me all you want with text I don't really care.

You asked me for it. And I apologise for calling you him. Your avvie looked like a male to me. So, I apologise for that.

gender: the state of being male or female with reference to social or cultural differences rather than biological ones. (Oxford American Dictionary)

sex: either of the two main categories (male or female) into which humans and most living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions. (Oxford American Dictionary)

Now, a person's sex is not determined by reproductive capability, but by reproductive function. This is taken, often, to refer to the fact that a physical female has a v****a that a physical male can stick his p***s into.

You also asked why a person should hate their body and desire that it is changed. In the case of a transgendered person, their body function does not match what their mind tells them it should be. On a smaller scale, take my hands for an example. I was born with a defect of the tendons in both hands. It did not show up until I was 15 years old. It causes severe stiffness in my hands and extreme pain. At 15, I was a very talented classical musician. I was nearing virtuosity on the guitar. I was forced, by my tendon defect, to give it up. To this day, years later, when I pick up a guitar, I believe that I am going to be able to play that guitar. I want to alter my body to match the function my brain says it should have.

This is no different from a transgendered person. Since I have personal experience with FTM individuals and their stories, I will use that as an example. My one friend was born female. He's a wonderful boy, but he does not have a p***s. Every morning, he wakes up and reaches down to adjust himself, if you get my meaning. Every single morning, he is struck dumb for several minutes when his hand meets a v****a. Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body. His brain says that his body should function a certain way, but it doesn't. Thus, he wants to alter his body to match the function his brain says it should have.

Make sense now?

[GDs Wrath]

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Everyone saw it, right? I offerred him an easy out before bitchslapping him with the dictionary? This is his very last warning. If you do not want me to completely disprove you in very few words, please withdraw now.

"him?"

'Scuse me...I'm not a Transy...

Slap me all you want with text I don't really care.

You asked me for it. And I apologise for calling you him. Your avvie looked like a male to me. So, I apologise for that.

gender: the state of being male or female with reference to social or cultural differences rather than biological ones. (Oxford American Dictionary)

sex: either of the two main categories (male or female) into which humans and most living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions. (Oxford American Dictionary)

Now, a person's sex is not determined by reproductive capability, but by reproductive function. This is taken, often, to refer to the fact that a physical female has a v****a that a physical male can stick his p***s into.

You also asked why a person should hate their body and desire that it is changed. In the case of a transgendered person, their body function does not match what their mind tells them it should be. On a smaller scale, take my hands for an example. I was born with a defect of the tendons in both hands. It did not show up until I was 15 years old. It causes severe stiffness in my hands and extreme pain. At 15, I was a very talented classical musician. I was nearing virtuosity on the guitar. I was forced, by my tendon defect, to give it up. To this day, years later, when I pick up a guitar, I believe that I am going to be able to play that guitar. I want to alter my body to match the function my brain says it should have.

This is no different from a transgendered person. Since I have personal experience with FTM individuals and their stories, I will use that as an example. My one friend was born female. He's a wonderful boy, but he does not have a p***s. Every morning, he wakes up and reaches down to adjust himself, if you get my meaning. Every single morning, he is struck dumb for several minutes when his hand meets a v****a. Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body. His brain says that his body should function a certain way, but it doesn't. Thus, he wants to alter his body to match the function his brain says it should have.

Make sense now?

Oui

[Taineyah]

Xillania

Taineyah

After a reassignment surgery, no one can tell whether you were or weren't born that gender.

Nitpicking: Even for the most passable of transpeople, chromosomes and lack of ovaries/uterus can still reveal the birth sex, as can a transguy's p***s (unless there's something new I don't know about, the surgery still sucks.)

True. I'll give you that. But to a casual observer? Not really. There have been a few improvements on transguy peens, but the best ones are really, really expensive and experimental.

[Taineyah]

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Demon_Kid_Kazuru

Taineyah

Everyone saw it, right? I offerred him an easy out before bitchslapping him with the dictionary? This is his very last warning. If you do not want me to completely disprove you in very few words, please withdraw now.

"him?"

'Scuse me...I'm not a Transy...

Slap me all you want with text I don't really care.

You asked me for it. And I apologise for calling you him. Your avvie looked like a male to me. So, I apologise for that.

gender: the state of being male or female with reference to social or cultural differences rather than biological ones. (Oxford American Dictionary)

sex: either of the two main categories (male or female) into which humans and most living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions. (Oxford American Dictionary)

Now, a person's sex is not determined by reproductive capability, but by reproductive function. This is taken, often, to refer to the fact that a physical female has a v****a that a physical male can stick his p***s into.

You also asked why a person should hate their body and desire that it is changed. In the case of a transgendered person, their body function does not match what their mind tells them it should be. On a smaller scale, take my hands for an example. I was born with a defect of the tendons in both hands. It did not show up until I was 15 years old. It causes severe stiffness in my hands and extreme pain. At 15, I was a very talented classical musician. I was nearing virtuosity on the guitar. I was forced, by my tendon defect, to give it up. To this day, years later, when I pick up a guitar, I believe that I am going to be able to play that guitar. I want to alter my body to match the function my brain says it should have.

This is no different from a transgendered person. Since I have personal experience with FTM individuals and their stories, I will use that as an example. My one friend was born female. He's a wonderful boy, but he does not have a p***s. Every morning, he wakes up and reaches down to adjust himself, if you get my meaning. Every single morning, he is struck dumb for several minutes when his hand meets a v****a. Just waking up in the morning is traumatic for him because his mind does not meet his body. His brain says that his body should function a certain way, but it doesn't. Thus, he wants to alter his body to match the function his brain says it should have.

Make sense now?

Oui

Gonna stop being offensive yet and back off? Gonna admit that trans people are more than "guys in dresses?"