Firlodge_3
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- Posted: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:59:51 +0000
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I did mean subjective...I don't know why I thought it was objective...o.o I'm also very much realize that Dino's weren't running about with Neanderthals. Also I am very subjective about everything.
I'm glad you realise that. I tend to avoid grey areas wherever possible so we're coming at this from completely opposite ends of the spectrum.
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I try not to. I've gotten pretty open minded about being wrong.
Then why do you persist in finding and sometimes outright making loopholes as to why you're correct?
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Not necessarily, unless a person recognizes it as being the truth, it is not. (We could argue this all day., but you are going to have your opinion and I'm going to have mine.) Once a person comes to recognize that the "information" is true or known, it becomes a "fact" to that individual person. As such if I didn't know that Sumerian's existed to me, it wouldn't be a fact as I would be unaware as to what a Sumerian is/was. Never mind the hows and whys.
You can be unaware that the Sumerians exist. It's still a fact - it might be unknown to you but is still a fact. Telling me never to mind the hows and whys is just daft.
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I would recognize that the sky was blue, someone who is color blind would say bull s**t. For them it would be a "fact" that the sky was black, or white or green or what ever color they saw it as.. If it looks purple to them, there is little since in telling them its blue because that's not what they are going to see... For us who are not color blind, it would be a "fact" that it was blue.
This would be one of those times when colour-blind people are unavoidably wrong. The three primary colours of light are: red, green and blue. If you can't see one of those, that doesn't make a red flower or a green leaf or a blue sky any other colour. It would be a fact that it was blue, just not a fact that they have any way of knowing. Do you think that bacteria sprung into existence when the first microscope was made? I don't know what was with the "fact" though.
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A fact is to know something and believe it, if you don't know of somethings existence or believe in it, is it still a fact?
No. A fact is not "knowing something and believing it" - a fact is something that is true, verifiable and authentic. If some remote tribe has never seen people on horseback before and thinks the Spanish troops are centaurs, that's not a fact to them that centaurs are arriving - they're just plain mistaken even if it is an error born out of easily correctable ignorance.