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Really? Marylin Manson's a satanist? Well, she's a sharp young woman, she may be onto something! Nahh, seriously though, I had a little "Satanist" phase back when I was, ohhh, about 13? Then a little "Christian" phase right after that, and then... I guess I've been building my own beliefs bit by bit as I gain experience ever since, since ultimately that seemed like the sensible thing to do, rather than believe that anyone else could tell me what I ought to do with my experiences, including Anton LaVey. That said, I still kind of respect him, if only because he knew how to be convincing, and he was a very charismatic figure. He knew how to put on a show, and that's definitely a talent, no doubt about it. At the end of the day, though, it looks to me like there may be more mature ways to nurture a non-religious relationship to the world around you, but that's just me, you go ahead and be a LaVey Satanist until the cows come home, don't let me stop you.
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Sorry, but:

Theistic >>>>>> LaVeyan. Always.

At least they acknowledge Satan as a deity. LaVeyans just want the name "Satanist", and not the worship/responsibilities that come with it. stare
I hear some Satanists say that Satanism is not for the weak. They believe in letting the weak die off. But the thing is everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. Also, there is no standard of who’s considered "strong" or "weak", it's all subjective. Even if there was, who are we to decide who’s "weak" and who’s "strong"? So my question is, who do you personally define as a "weakling"?
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Xiam
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Long live LaVeyen satanism, it teaches us personal freedom and apotheosis.

From Dictionary.com:
Quote:
a·poth·e·o·sis   [uh-poth-ee-oh-sis, ap-uh-thee-uh-sis]
noun, plural -ses  [-seez, -seez]
1. the elevation or exaltation of a person to the rank of a god.

Who exactly is being elevated to being a god here? You? In what sense have you achieved divinity? What would you consider divinity?
One of the central ideas behind LaVeyan Satanism is that "you are your own god". Basically, LaVeyan Satanism preaches that there is no god, and that everything you do should be entirely motivated by self-interest.

In other words, it teaches that one should be selfish, greedy, apathetic, egotistical and narcissistic, indulging in and relishing the "sins" of Christianity rather than avoiding them or being repentant for committing them.

Well, that's just awful. Even from a non-Christian point-of-view.

It isn't as bad as that... bad but not that bad... heres the like "10 commandments, Sins, and Virtues" of it.
CoS

The Nine Satanic Statements

Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence
Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams
Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit
Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates
Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek
Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires
Satan represents man as just another animal (sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours), who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all.
Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification
Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years

The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another's lair, show them respect or else do not go there.
If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy.
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they don’t stop, destroy them.

I mean Nietzsche inspired them so it is rather darkside stuff.
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Il Drago Museveni Il
The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

wat
The New Wineskin
Homicidal Orange
Ugh, you're embarrassing the rest of us. talk2hand

Humanity, the atheistic satanist community, or both?


Both. All of the above. Everyone.

I consider myself more of a theistic Satanist, which creates some contention from LaVeyans. But I've researched both types and have enough respect to know OP is pretty embarrassing....xD;
Xiam
Il Drago Museveni Il
The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

wat


"Satanists deal with the world as it is. Convincing yourself of untruths because they are more comfortable is no less problematic than letting someone else deceive you."
- The Nine Satanic Sins
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Lucky~9~Lives
Xiam
Il Drago Museveni Il
The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

wat


"Satanists deal with the world as it is. Convincing yourself of untruths because they are more comfortable is no less problematic than letting someone else deceive you."
- The Nine Satanic Sins

Like the untruth that they are their own god...?
Xiam
Lucky~9~Lives
Xiam
Il Drago Museveni Il
The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

wat


"Satanists deal with the world as it is. Convincing yourself of untruths because they are more comfortable is no less problematic than letting someone else deceive you."
- The Nine Satanic Sins

Like the untruth that they are their own god...?


wut
Lucky~9~Lives
Xiam
Lucky~9~Lives
Xiam
Il Drago Museveni Il
The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

wat


"Satanists deal with the world as it is. Convincing yourself of untruths because they are more comfortable is no less problematic than letting someone else deceive you."
- The Nine Satanic Sins

Like the untruth that they are their own god...?


wut


Not sure what Xiam is referring to but some people think that since LaVayan Satanists consider themselves, according to the rules, as master of their own fate, which makes them think of themselves as their own God. Some use that argument to say that they aren't really atheists because of that. I say meh as that argument is rather worthless.
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Xiam
Il Drago Museveni Il
The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

wat

It means to be honest with yourself. Don't convice yourself that things are okaying when they aren't and things like that.
deadmanjay
Lucky~9~Lives
Xiam
Lucky~9~Lives
Xiam
Il Drago Museveni Il
The Nine Satanic Sins

Stupidity
Pretentiousness
Solipsism
Self-deceit
Herd Conformity
Lack of Perspective
Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
Counterproductive Pride
Lack of Aesthetics

wat


"Satanists deal with the world as it is. Convincing yourself of untruths because they are more comfortable is no less problematic than letting someone else deceive you."
- The Nine Satanic Sins

Like the untruth that they are their own god...?


wut


Not sure what Xiam is referring to but some people think that since LaVayan Satanists consider themselves, according to the rules, as master of their own fate, which makes them think of themselves as their own God. Some use that argument to say that they aren't really atheists because of that. I say meh as that argument is rather worthless.


When I was one, I always interpreted 'you are your own god' as 'you, a relatively unassuming human being are the template from which all gods have been drawn, not the other way around. Remember that, and understand that there is no consciousness guiding your hand that is not your own'. From what I've seen, the individual satanist's mileage will vary, but I've never met one who actually thinks of themselves as a 'god' .
A Wild Otaku Appeared
Long live LaVeyen satanism, it teaches us personal freedom and apotheosis.

It teaches us that there is no God or devil but that we decide whats good or not.

Marilyn Manson introduced me into LaVeyen satanism and satanism introduced me into Dimmu Borgir.

******** those religious and conservative bastards, they wont make me afraid anymore cause I reached enlightment. 3nodding


I love you so much!!!!
Long live LaVeyan Satanism!
A Wild Otaku Appeared
Long live LaVeyen satanism, it teaches us personal freedom and apotheosis.

It teaches us that there is no God or devil but that we decide whats good or not.

Marilyn Manson introduced me into LaVeyen satanism and satanism introduced me into Dimmu Borgir.

******** those religious and conservative bastards, they wont make me afraid anymore cause I reached enlightment. 3nodding




"Enlightenment" my a**.

If you're going to let some complete failure of a band persuade you into thinking something like this, then how could you possibly believe you're the master of your own fate?

I call shenanigans on this one.
Congrats on sinning LaVeyan Satanist!

What do I mean by that? Well, one of the sins in LaVeyan Satanism is stupidity and you sure hit the nail on the head there.

That and stop making alot us look bad.

Even though I'm not a Satanist but a Luciferian I still tend to get chucked under that label of Satanist so it still annoys me to no end.

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