Someone's gotta fight for God on this forum....

[DynaSuarez Wrecks]

ratrapid

I don't blame you. The point was that I sent her on an impossible task.

No, it was quite possible. I'm that person who has not accepted the Big Bang and believes that divine power is responsible for the creation of our universe. I don't practice religion, and I don't assert that at least one deity exists just because some book says it exists. I am your unbiased opinion.

[ratrapid]

Watagashi

Phanari

-xXLady RaiXx-

Phanari

In case it cause confusion:

Fishers of Men:
Christian's duty to go out and give the Word of God to any and everyone. Whether or not they believe it is their business.

Provide Chapter and Verse. This is the ED. You make a claim you back it up. The Burden of Proof is on you.

That's info that's known to all who have even cracked a Bible open. But if you need it, one moment.

If you need help, it's Mark 1:17

Jesus was recruiting a couple of fishermen to be His disciples. It is a more commonly known verse, as it's often taught in Sunday School, Youth, and Sunday morning sermons... Of course, it's not well-known enough for most non-believers to know, as Noah and Moses are. ^^;;;;

Mark 1:17 King James Version

And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.

And that is why Jesus is bisexual. The actual translation is "Come ye onto me"

[Uncle Skullz]

Vosi

vriiig

and..No...we should all worship who we want!

No, we shouldn't worship anyone without valid reasoning, which in most cases is just absent, so conclusively you should stop worshiping everyone, yourself included for all those who practice that.

i dont know who but some one has made all of you guys have made you realy agressif...it used to be so good...now its allways arguing

Anyway..

No one Worships btw...and your saying we should all worship the same thing???What about culture??
Tribes used to (and still do) worship people...
Your saying they cant anymore?

What about human rights?? it clearly says we can woship what we want!!

[Neferet -House of Night-]

Watagashi

Phanari

-xXLady RaiXx-

Phanari

In case it cause confusion:

Fishers of Men:
Christian's duty to go out and give the Word of God to any and everyone. Whether or not they believe it is their business.

Provide Chapter and Verse. This is the ED. You make a claim you back it up. The Burden of Proof is on you.

That's info that's known to all who have even cracked a Bible open. But if you need it, one moment.

If you need help, it's Mark 1:17

Jesus was recruiting a couple of fishermen to be His disciples. It is a more commonly known verse, as it's often taught in Sunday School, Youth, and Sunday morning sermons... Of course, it's not well-known enough for most non-believers to know, as Noah and Moses are. ^^;;;;

Mark 1:17 King James Version

And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.

I went to CCD classes for 2 years and didn't do that.

But they were fishermen. Their job was to fish. That's how they got paid.

She's not a fisherman. She's just a child. neutral

[ratrapid]

Armored Cavalry

ratrapid

I don't blame you. The point was that I sent her on an impossible task.

No, it was quite possible. I'm that person who has not accepted the Big Bang and believes that divine power is responsible for the creation of our universe. I don't practice religion, and I don't assert that at least one deity exists just because some book says it exists. I am your unbiased opinion.

But you hold beliefs, as you just demonstrated. Therein lies the problem.

[Vosi]

To pose a discussion about your faith and state you will be the apologist is not an attack on faith, people. Also, disagreeing isn't an act of belligerence; her entire problem lies not necessarily in her conduct but her lack of knowledge. She doesn't have enough backing to argue for her faith, which is foolishness, and instead of "capturing people" she's driving them off with bad answers.

I really recommend you go back to Church and study up. Commonly memorized verses and phrases ( not all of which are actually in the Bible ) are not going to convert, or even stand for long in a discussion about your faith.

This is true of all other faiths, so if you don't know what you're talking about you shouldn't even open your mouth in relation to anything else no matter how accepted it is. Toodles.

[Dion Necurat]

-xXLady RaiXx-

Watagashi

Phanari

-xXLady RaiXx-

Phanari

In case it cause confusion:

Fishers of Men:
Christian's duty to go out and give the Word of God to any and everyone. Whether or not they believe it is their business.

Provide Chapter and Verse. This is the ED. You make a claim you back it up. The Burden of Proof is on you.

That's info that's known to all who have even cracked a Bible open. But if you need it, one moment.

If you need help, it's Mark 1:17

Jesus was recruiting a couple of fishermen to be His disciples. It is a more commonly known verse, as it's often taught in Sunday School, Youth, and Sunday morning sermons... Of course, it's not well-known enough for most non-believers to know, as Noah and Moses are. ^^;;;;

Mark 1:17 King James Version

And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.

I went to CCD classes for 2 years and didn't do that.

But they were fishermen. Their job was to fish. That's how they got paid.

She's not a fisherman. She's just a child. neutral

Metaphor.

[mr cloudies best friend]

.....

when i think of that no one suffered as much as jesus i laugh...

http://www.medievality.com/torture.html

jesus was p***y torture....

and how do you know that hes the one true god? you wont know for sure till you die.

no religion can be proven or dissproven!

[The Privateer]

Phanari

It sickens me how with how much He's done for us, most take it and don't even thanks Him. Much less NOTICE it was His doing.

People who have suffered hardships in their lives tend to be athiests, understandably so, because it's difficult to accept that there is a loving deity, when they don't appear to see any signs of it.

Try to understand this aspect of the human experience, and find it in yourself to be kind to the people who have had unkindness heaped upon them.

Phanari

It's rather sad. No one in this day and age seems to believe that God has a place in our world. When, He created it, so that kinda means.............He DOES!

Theists can but hope that he/she will reveal themselves and right the wrongs, and atheists can but scoff at the idea as nonsense. Let people think as they will, and strive to be as considerate as possible when debating people who don't share a set of opinions with you. smile

[Watagashi]

-xXLady RaiXx-

Watagashi

In the OP's defense, however, I see where she's getting at. If a group of people were bashing, insulting, and belittling someone you deeply love and care about, you'd probably stand up and tell them off and/or attempt to correct them and/or ask them to stop saying such things. It has nothing to do with whether or not "God can defend and take care of Himself", it's more that she can't stomach reading continuous berating comments about someone she truly cares about. All in all, her intentions aren't so off-base. That's the way I see it, at least.

It matters not. When I was Christian, I saw people bash God many times however I didn't act rudely to him and claim to defend him. I also saw fellow Christians use God as a tool. That's why I don't like it when other people act like they are God's mouthpiece.

As Christians, we do have the responsibility to be representatives of God and His works. And how are Christians to teach and spread the word without voicing from what God has already said?

If I recall, in Mark 11:15-17 notes how Jesus came into one of the temples to find men selling offerings. This was against God's teachings and an insult unto Him and the faith, so Jesus marched in there and corrected them. It's the one time in the Bible where you actually see Jesus angry. He defended God, His word, and His temple in doing so:

Mark 11:15-17 King James Version

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the
tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold
doves, And said unto them, "It is written, My house shall be
called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of
thieves!"

Defending God, His word, His temple, and the way of His teachings... I don't see anything wrong with that. As with any action, there's a proper and improper way of doing this. But the intent of defending that which is sacred onto you itself is not wrong in the least.

[ratrapid]

PhantomWalrus

ratrapid

Phanari

-xXLady RaiXx-

Phanari

In case it cause confusion:

Fishers of Men:
Christian's duty to go out and give the Word of God to any and everyone. Whether or not they believe it is their business.

Provide Chapter and Verse. This is the ED. You make a claim you back it up. The Burden of Proof is on you.

That's info that's known to all who have even cracked a Bible open. But if you need it, one moment.

Wait, you have the right to be a little b*****d just because it's in a book?
I need to write "The ED Code Of Conduct" and yes, it actually has two testaments.

That made me laugh.

The completeness of the lolcat bible surprised me. There were translations of Habakkuk, Amos, Philemon, and Jude; most people don't even know they are in the Bible.

The might of the internet exceeds that of God. After all, the power of both is measured by their effect upon us. I would like to say that when the internet wages war so well upon God, we must concede that God is defunct.

[Vosi]

vriiig

Vosi

vriiig

and..No...we should all worship who we want!

No, we shouldn't worship anyone without valid reasoning, which in most cases is just absent, so conclusively you should stop worshiping everyone, yourself included for all those who practice that.

i dont know who but some one has made all of you guys have made you realy agressif...it used to be so good...now its allways arguing

Anyway..

No one Worships btw...and your saying we should all worship the same thing???What about culture??
Tribes used to (and still do) worship people...
Your saying they cant anymore?

What about human rights?? it clearly says we can woship what we want!!

If disagreeing with you is an aggressive action I fear for what your future holds. I'm saying we shouldn't worship anything without good cause, which if there is a good cause, that cause transcends culture anyway. Human Rights are a crock, okay? They are there because we made them up; not all of them make good, sound, sense and as we continue on they should evolve with us, but they haven't which is problematic because a lot of old, out-dated standards are in place that don't belong. It's like a legal book; if you don't keep up with the times your laws are going to look outlandish and foolish.

[Phanari]

-xXLady RaiXx-

Watagashi

In the OP's defense, however, I see where she's getting at. If a group of people were bashing, insulting, and belittling someone you deeply love and care about, you'd probably stand up and tell them off and/or attempt to correct them and/or ask them to stop saying such things. It has nothing to do with whether or not "God can defend and take care of Himself", it's more that she can't stomach reading continuous berating comments about someone she truly cares about. All in all, her intentions aren't so off-base. That's the way I see it, at least.

It matters not. When I was Christian, I saw people bash God many times however I didn't act rudely to him and claim to defend him. I also saw fellow Christians use God as a tool. That's why I don't like it when other people act like they are God's mouthpiece.

A: if you weren't fighting for your Father, then you weren't being a very good Christian.

B:God holds Grace, in case you never read the new Testiment, and therefore--since He knows what's in our hearts, He appreciates the thought and compassion behind what you say.

[Scraps 2-point-0]

Hm... Well, you have the right to believe what you want, and others have the right to disagree. Luckily for you, Christians aren't the minority outside of Gaia's ED, so you don't really have anything to worry about.

[ratrapid]

Phanari

-xXLady RaiXx-

Watagashi

In the OP's defense, however, I see where she's getting at. If a group of people were bashing, insulting, and belittling someone you deeply love and care about, you'd probably stand up and tell them off and/or attempt to correct them and/or ask them to stop saying such things. It has nothing to do with whether or not "God can defend and take care of Himself", it's more that she can't stomach reading continuous berating comments about someone she truly cares about. All in all, her intentions aren't so off-base. That's the way I see it, at least.

It matters not. When I was Christian, I saw people bash God many times however I didn't act rudely to him and claim to defend him. I also saw fellow Christians use God as a tool. That's why I don't like it when other people act like they are God's mouthpiece.

A: if you weren't fighting for your Father, then you weren't being a very good Christian.

B:God holds Grace, in case you never read the new Testiment, and therefore--since He knows what's in our hearts, He appreciates the thought and compassion behind what you say.

Since when was a river of blood graceful?