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Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.


But the Bible was written by flawed, sinful men as well. Just because it's inspired by God doesn't mean it can't be corrupted.

Also, if you have this persecuted, us-vs-them mentality, you're never going to learn anything.
Phanari
Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.

A). You spelled crucifixion wrong.

B). What passage?
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Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.

The Bible is the word of God according to what? That's right, the Bible.


This is circular logic. Get used to it, there's a lot of it in Christianity.


Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.


NO, it's in Psalms!! gonk Please, get with it, girl!!!
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Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.

The Bible is the word of God according to what? That's right, the Bible.


This is circular logic. Get used to it, there's a lot of it in Christianity.


Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.

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Phanari


Correction: KOWLEDGE of something without any proof. There's difference.


Quote:
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>
Want to try again? neutral


If you check through your NAS Bible for the meaning of Faith, it's clearly seen as Knowledge.
I don't own a bible and never will and 2, that's a bastardization of the English Language. If you look at the dictionary excerpt I provided that is the true blue definition of what faith is. So instead of reading your little Bible why don't you try reading the dictionary? You might actually learn something. :3


... Meh, standardized definitions aside, when one has faith and believes in something (provable, unseen, or not), then that also means that they KNOW or "know" that it is in fact true. If a person says she believes in something, she not only believes it, she knows it. The fact as to whether it's true or not is irrelevant, as this is the little girl's own personal knowledge. It's not the same version of knowledge we're so adapted to, but a personal point of view-ish type knowledge... though I don't know what that would be called. Though, faith is a more personal matter that varies from person to person, to which it cannot be universally and accurately depicted and described for all cases of all people.

Hope that makes sense. :/
However she's going to prove how she knows. Like anything else in the ED.
AniMajor
Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.


But the Bible was written by flawed, sinful men as well. Just because it's inspired by God doesn't mean it can't be corrupted.

Also, if you have this persecuted, us-vs-them mentality, you're never going to learn anything.


Of course I learn. A lot, actually. From my pastor, the Word of God, and..........of all things...fantasy novels.
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Phanari
Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.

A). You spelled crucifixion wrong.

B). What passage?


Psalm 22. =__=

NIV Version:

Quote:
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.

3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel. [a]

4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.

5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.

6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.

7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:

8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."

9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.

10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.

11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.

12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.

13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.

14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.

16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.

17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.

18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.

19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.

20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.

21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save [d] me from the horns of the wild oxen.

22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.

23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!

24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.

25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you will I fulfill my vows.

26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!

27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,

28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.

29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.

30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.

31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn—
for he has done it.
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Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.

The Bible is the word of God according to what? That's right, the Bible.


This is circular logic. Get used to it, there's a lot of it in Christianity.


Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.


NO, it's in Psalms!! gonk Please, get with it, girl!!!


*patpat* I don't think she's gonna get it. sweatdrop

And, Phanari, you still haven't answered either of our questions on what you hope to accomplish with this thread? To teach, convert, etc?
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Phanari
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Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.

The Bible is the word of God according to what? That's right, the Bible.


This is circular logic. Get used to it, there's a lot of it in Christianity.


Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.


NO, it's in Psalms!! gonk Please, get with it, girl!!!


No, it's in Exodus too. Check.
God doesn't need you to make Him look worse by being an overzealous religious troll.
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He can take care of Himself.
And besides
>>
This is a free-forum. People can say/post what they want.
stare
If athiesim hurt your poor Catholic ears so much, don't go to those threads.
This is easy, it's not that hard to comprehend!
xd
Tallie
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Phanari
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Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.

The Bible is the word of God according to what? That's right, the Bible.


This is circular logic. Get used to it, there's a lot of it in Christianity.


Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.


NO, it's in Psalms!! gonk Please, get with it, girl!!!


*patpat* I don't think she's gonna get it. sweatdrop

And, Phanari, you still haven't answered either of our questions on what you hope to accomplish with this thread? To teach, convert, etc?


Actually, in the very first few pages, I mention how I'm just performing my Christian duty as a fisher of men. AKA: Giving The Word of God.
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Phanari
THAT'S a very sad way of viewing things.

Reality isn't always happy, I'm afraid.


True, thanks to sin. But if you view life in the negative, you'll always be depressed. However, if you view it in the positive, things'll change for ya. Try it.
Negativity has nothing to deal with sin. Life is like an ocean it has it's ebs and it's flows, it's ups and it's downs. Look at the current state of the world. Too many it looks like it's gotten worse and the end is upon us, however before it gets better, it first must get worse. That's the natural progression of things.
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AniMajor
Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.


But the Bible was written by flawed, sinful men as well. Just because it's inspired by God doesn't mean it can't be corrupted.

Also, if you have this persecuted, us-vs-them mentality, you're never going to learn anything.


Of course I learn. A lot, actually. From my pastor, the Word of God, and..........of all things...fantasy novels.
You also need to ask questions, do research using unbiased material, and be understanding of others views. :3
Blakaize
God doesn't need you to make Him look worse by being an overzealous religious troll.
neutral
He can take care of Himself.
And besides
>>
This is a free-forum. People can say/post what they want.
stare
If athiesim hurt your poor Catholic ears so much, don't go to those threads.
This is easy, it's not that hard to comprehend!
xd


Word for the wise:
NEVER call a Christian Catholic. First off: I believe Marry WASN'T a virgin after the birth of Christ. And there are SO many other differences.....
Phanari
Tallie
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Phanari
Dictionary wasn't given to us through God. It was written by falwed, sinnful men. Which word would I rather trust......hmmmm..........the True Word of God? Or the flawed work of man? I'd rather follow the Word of God.

The Bible is the word of God according to what? That's right, the Bible.


This is circular logic. Get used to it, there's a lot of it in Christianity.


Look through it. I mean, REALLY look through it. Old Testement was written MANY decades before the New. And yet.............it prophesizes Christ's crusefiction? SERIOUSLY! Check it out. It's in Exodus.


NO, it's in Psalms!! gonk Please, get with it, girl!!!


*patpat* I don't think she's gonna get it. sweatdrop

And, Phanari, you still haven't answered either of our questions on what you hope to accomplish with this thread? To teach, convert, etc?


Actually, in the very first few pages, I mention how I'm just performing my Christian duty as a fisher of men. AKA: Giving The Word of God.


So, basically, you hope to teach and convert the people of the ED into Christianity?

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