Someone's gotta fight for God on this forum....

[Dion Necurat]

linaloki

Dion Necurat

linaloki

Dion Necurat

linaloki

My point is that we know evil goes on in the world, and suffering as well. And we could very well prevent it if we tried. Yet we don't. You've heard of Kitty Genovese, yes?

However, we are not directly linked to much of the supposed evil.

And just as we aren't directing the choices of others or responsible for those choices, God did not direct Satan or make Satan's choices for him. If we aren't guilty for standing aside, why is God?

Two reasons:

A) There is written documentation of a conversation with these two.
B) Said conversation:

Quote:

6 One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."

8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil."

9 "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. 10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."

12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."
Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.

He allowed this to happen. He gave Satan specific instructions. He is also guilty of taking things from Job.

Applying human standards to God has been something people have done for centuries. It is the only way many people can understand God.

Specific instructions? I see Him saying, "Do as you will, but don't do this."

It's an affirmation of faith. No matter how shitty life gets, things will get better with faith in God. Which they did for Job.

However, an all-powerful God who made several covenants with his "children" would stand idly by and allow evil to occur on his "children"?

[Phanari]

linaloki

Dion Necurat

linaloki

Dion Necurat

linaloki

My point is that we know evil goes on in the world, and suffering as well. And we could very well prevent it if we tried. Yet we don't. You've heard of Kitty Genovese, yes?

However, we are not directly linked to much of the supposed evil.

And just as we aren't directing the choices of others or responsible for those choices, God did not direct Satan or make Satan's choices for him. If we aren't guilty for standing aside, why is God?

Two reasons:

A) There is written documentation of a conversation with these two.
B) Said conversation:

Quote:

6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. 7 The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?"
Satan answered the LORD, "From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it."

8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil."

9 "Does Job fear God for nothing?" Satan replied. 10 "Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face."

12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."
Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.

He allowed this to happen. He gave Satan specific instructions. He is also guilty of taking things from Job.

Applying human standards to God has been something people have done for centuries. It is the only way many people can understand God.

Specific instructions? I see Him saying, "Do as you will, but don't do this."

It's an affirmation of faith. No matter how shitty life gets, things will get better with faith in God. Which they did for Job.

As for the anthropocentric error, applying human traits to something not human only lets us think we understand what's going on. It doesn't get us even close to understanding.

God is ABOVE human law.

[Mister Heat Miser]

linaloki

Mister Heat Miser

Is it fun to drink?
Is it a sin to drink?

...no to both?

I'm guessing on the first one.

I hear that it's a ******** awesome time.

[linaloki]

So, did you know the Bible said thieves go to heaven?

[Omorose Panya]

Phanari

God is ABOVE human law.

How so?

[Vice Admiral Romeo Mike]

Mister Heat Miser

linaloki

Mister Heat Miser

Is it fun to drink?
Is it a sin to drink?

...no to both?

I'm guessing on the first one.

I hear that it's a ******** awesome time.

Unless you do it to get by. You need one in the morning, in the afternoon, at night. Just to make the demons go away. You're damned if you drink, damned if you don't. It's not. ********. awesome.

[Vice Admiral Romeo Mike]

Omorose Panya

Phanari

God is ABOVE human law.

How so?

You ever play Star Ocean 3? Like that, I suppose.

[linaloki]

Dion Necurat

However, an all-powerful God who made several covenants with his "children" would stand idly by and allow evil to occur on his "children"?

None of the covenants said that He would eliminate all temptations and evils in the world.

If God is good, then there must also exist evil, otherwise our free will and ability to choose God is gone because we can only choose good.

[Phanari]

Omorose Panya

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

For some reason, I'm led to believe it'd be sort of like a boring orgasm that lasted forever. Unless there was some serious mind control going on, folk would get bored as s**t not sinning. I mean, damn, it must ******** blow to go to heaven after dying as a teenager. No wife, so no sex?

For eternity?
=o
=o

Well... they can still do all that stuff.

It's just not called sinning in Heaven.

wink

Sex in Heaven is QUESTIONED among most Christians. The Bible talks about us being like the angels in Heaven and therefore not bearing fruit. However, it's questioned as to whether or not SEX isn't gonna happen. After all, God mentions sex is necissary.

[Mister Heat Miser]

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Mister Heat Miser

linaloki

Mister Heat Miser

Is it fun to drink?
Is it a sin to drink?

...no to both?

I'm guessing on the first one.

I hear that it's a ******** awesome time.

Unless you do it to get by. You need one in the morning, in the afternoon, at night. Just to make the demons go away. You're damned if you drink, damned if you don't. It's not. ********. awesome.

Because everyone drinks to repress memories, amirite?

[Omorose Panya]

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

You ever play Star Ocean 3? Like that, I suppose.

Nope. I need a better explanation.

[Vice Admiral Romeo Mike]

Mister Heat Miser

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Mister Heat Miser

linaloki

Mister Heat Miser

Is it fun to drink?
Is it a sin to drink?

...no to both?

I'm guessing on the first one.

I hear that it's a ******** awesome time.

Unless you do it to get by. You need one in the morning, in the afternoon, at night. Just to make the demons go away. You're damned if you drink, damned if you don't. It's not. ********. awesome.

Because everyone drinks to repress memories, amirite?

LOOK. A COUNTEREXAMPLE! IT WENT... THA--- NO IT WENT THAT A-WAY!

[linaloki]

Phanari

Omorose Panya

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

For some reason, I'm led to believe it'd be sort of like a boring orgasm that lasted forever. Unless there was some serious mind control going on, folk would get bored as s**t not sinning. I mean, damn, it must ******** blow to go to heaven after dying as a teenager. No wife, so no sex?

For eternity?
=o
=o

Well... they can still do all that stuff.

It's just not called sinning in Heaven.

wink

Sex in Heaven is QUESTIONED among most Christians. The Bible talks about us being like the angels in Heaven and therefore not bearing fruit. However, it's questioned as to whether or not SEX isn't gonna happen. After all, God mentions sex is necissary.

I'd ask where, but you'd just tell me to look it up.

So, did you know the Bible says that there is no hell? I'd tell you where, but I think you should look it up.

[Mister Heat Miser]

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Mister Heat Miser

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Mister Heat Miser

linaloki

Mister Heat Miser

Is it fun to drink?
Is it a sin to drink?

...no to both?

I'm guessing on the first one.

I hear that it's a ******** awesome time.

Unless you do it to get by. You need one in the morning, in the afternoon, at night. Just to make the demons go away. You're damned if you drink, damned if you don't. It's not. ********. awesome.

Because everyone drinks to repress memories, amirite?

LOOK. A COUNTEREXAMPLE! IT WENT... THA--- NO IT WENT THAT A-WAY!

How the hell does this serve as a counter-example? To show that drinking isn't always for fun? Great job, only it has s**t all to do with my point. It's fun, it's not a sin, so how come you can't have fun in a place that is free of sin?