Suicidesoldier#1
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- Posted: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:15:34 +0000
Questions Regarding some silly Rules in the ED
My First question derives from this. It's less of a big deal than my next question, but still important I believe.
1. General posting Guide lines
"Anyone found spamming or flaming in response to a troll thread, spam thread, or an obviously misplaced thread will be treated just as harshly, if not more as the creator of the thread. There is a zero tolerance policy on this."
Now, while I understand these rules, it seems a might silly. This is one of the best ways to have fun in the ED and since everyone trolls now and again and having super sirsz conversation isn't always fun.
Serious conversations isn't the same as an extended one or an important one. Some of the best conversations were only half serious and, some of the best fun has been had in such troll threads.
So, I think that's a silly rule. To help further the awesomeness of the ED, we need to loosen our restrictions on this, so far as, make it allowed but not go over board. We sort of already do, but since the rules do make this a potentially bannable offense, this is a tad crazy.
Also, I plan on having an extended discussion about this topic, plz don't ban its TYVM.
2. Rules and Guide lines for posting in the ED
"Threads asking users simply to give personal hypotheses with little basis in fact or knowledge of the subject area are more appropriate for General Discussion."
This is probably the worst rule in the ED. First of all, anything completely and entirely verifiable in fact WILL NOT spur on an extended discussion.
If someone asks "what is 2 + 2" and we can definitely give an answer of 4, there is no discussion. It is over.
Similarly, if someone asks "can you litigate in civil courts for vandalism", and the answer is yes, how the hell does that facilitate an extended discussion? Can you answer this for me?
The only possible discussions that will at all spur on more than a simple answer are those things that are open ended. Topics about abortion, the death penalty, does God exist, none of these topics truly have any kind of definite answer, since it's based off of belief, and yet they're the type of things that would spur on an extended discussion. Asking what's your favorite sports team, beverage, super power etc. all do more to go on to spur on an EXTENDED discussion than any potential asking of a question with a definite answer.
So, requiring facts to support my assertion? If there is a definitive yes or no answer, and that's all that's allowed in the ED, than why have an ED? Anything that can be definitely proved wrong or right has no need for an extended discussion, it's been proven.
If all my points have to be dictated by facts than there is no discussion, it's just source mongering. This isn't a discussion, it's just spouting out truths.
And if that's the way the ED has to be, than the ED is self destructive of it's own goal. Having to require facts eliminates entire areas of conversation, and perhaps the only true things you can have a discussion about. Are we alone in the universe? Does God exist? Is there a weird creepy guy in my basement? If the only things we're allowed to post are questions like "Is lady Gaga an alien", and the answer is obviously a definite resounding maybe, than how do we really have a real discussion?
Everyone has to say the same thing since it's a fact, or flat out be lieing.
No half truths are allowed, then.
And that destroys debate.
So, what do you think, ED?
Do you think this rule is stupid or what?
My First question derives from this. It's less of a big deal than my next question, but still important I believe.
1. General posting Guide lines
"Anyone found spamming or flaming in response to a troll thread, spam thread, or an obviously misplaced thread will be treated just as harshly, if not more as the creator of the thread. There is a zero tolerance policy on this."
Now, while I understand these rules, it seems a might silly. This is one of the best ways to have fun in the ED and since everyone trolls now and again and having super sirsz conversation isn't always fun.
Serious conversations isn't the same as an extended one or an important one. Some of the best conversations were only half serious and, some of the best fun has been had in such troll threads.
So, I think that's a silly rule. To help further the awesomeness of the ED, we need to loosen our restrictions on this, so far as, make it allowed but not go over board. We sort of already do, but since the rules do make this a potentially bannable offense, this is a tad crazy.
Also, I plan on having an extended discussion about this topic, plz don't ban its TYVM.
2. Rules and Guide lines for posting in the ED
"Threads asking users simply to give personal hypotheses with little basis in fact or knowledge of the subject area are more appropriate for General Discussion."
This is probably the worst rule in the ED. First of all, anything completely and entirely verifiable in fact WILL NOT spur on an extended discussion.
If someone asks "what is 2 + 2" and we can definitely give an answer of 4, there is no discussion. It is over.
Similarly, if someone asks "can you litigate in civil courts for vandalism", and the answer is yes, how the hell does that facilitate an extended discussion? Can you answer this for me?
The only possible discussions that will at all spur on more than a simple answer are those things that are open ended. Topics about abortion, the death penalty, does God exist, none of these topics truly have any kind of definite answer, since it's based off of belief, and yet they're the type of things that would spur on an extended discussion. Asking what's your favorite sports team, beverage, super power etc. all do more to go on to spur on an EXTENDED discussion than any potential asking of a question with a definite answer.
So, requiring facts to support my assertion? If there is a definitive yes or no answer, and that's all that's allowed in the ED, than why have an ED? Anything that can be definitely proved wrong or right has no need for an extended discussion, it's been proven.
If all my points have to be dictated by facts than there is no discussion, it's just source mongering. This isn't a discussion, it's just spouting out truths.
And if that's the way the ED has to be, than the ED is self destructive of it's own goal. Having to require facts eliminates entire areas of conversation, and perhaps the only true things you can have a discussion about. Are we alone in the universe? Does God exist? Is there a weird creepy guy in my basement? If the only things we're allowed to post are questions like "Is lady Gaga an alien", and the answer is obviously a definite resounding maybe, than how do we really have a real discussion?
Everyone has to say the same thing since it's a fact, or flat out be lieing.
No half truths are allowed, then.
And that destroys debate.
So, what do you think, ED?
Do you think this rule is stupid or what?