Possibly my farewell post..........

[Izzy Van Helsing]

Miss new Lane

For all the people which are saying: "Gaia is PG13 and so only moaning towards that is worthless, along with how the 10 year old should not be here" That does not matter at all.

There are many users on Gaia which are under 13 and yes it does not matter at all if those users are under age.

There are many people out in the world that rape women with blunt objects and slit their throats. Guess I'll go become a rapist. Apparently, if everyone else is breaking the law, that makes it okay. biggrin

Miss new Lane

I am saying this from a parents view.

For example: Facebook has a PG13 rule and so no one is allowed to have a account if they are not 13 or above but lots and lots of kids have accounts on there.
Alot of the time the parents go and make the accounts for them so that they can have the whole family on the website.

Again, just because people are breaking the law (Yes, by the laws those websites are forced to follow, children under the age of 13 are not allowed to post on messageboards or forums).

Miss new Lane

Do you really think that parents give a ******** about website rules?
Most of the time parents are the main moaning force on such websites when they see something which they feel should not be seen.

If they don't think something is appropriate, why are they allowing their children on that site? If my mom saw me watching something like Dawn of the Dead (zombie killing, graphic violence, sex, etc.) when I was ten, she would've ******** changed the channel. And why? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT RESPONSIBLE PARENTS DO.

Miss new Lane

Moaning at a parent about how their kid should not be on the website is worthless because they will just think up some excuse of how the kid is allowed to be on the website if the parents watches them....etc.

They can moan and whine all they want, but it's written right in the contract that they agreed to when they signed up that children of that age are not allowed on the site. They have no legal, or even logical standing.

Miss new Lane

Also if you normally ban a kids account or a mass amount of kids accounts then the parents go and create groups or whatever moaning about said website and how all of these things should change to make the website a perfect place for kids.

Normally if enough people moan, the website starts to listen.
Just like how so many parents were moaning about how people could see their kids accounts on Facebook.
People moaned at the parents but the parents just said back that the website is the place where all of their family is and kids or anyone else from their family should not be excluded just because of some stupid rules.

Federal laws are more than 'stupid rules'. By knowingly breaking those rules, those children, and their parents, could, potentially, be punished to the full extent of the law. Technically, the parents allowing the kids to sign up could be sent to jail for endangering a minor.

Don't blame gaia for following the letter of the law.

Miss new Lane

Anyway, moaning over the CIG item is stupid but there are kids out there who will do something just because they read something or see something.
I have seen TV shows of kids saying that they went out and did something just because the TV or whatever told them to.
The parents normally moan if it is something which they felt that the kid should not of seen though.

And we call those kids stupid and unsupervised.

Miss new Lane

People can moan about anything and so many parents normally want to change websites into family friends places because they want all of their family on the website.
This is why they make such moans for and why they do not like being moaned at by other people who tell them to get their kids off the website since that is like breaking up their family on the website in some parents minds....

There are already family-friendly websites out there. Let them go there, and leave us the site that we love.

[xBlSHOPx]

Vanitas Macabre

Agreed.

[Orphan_Shadow]

Well, if they do smoke, they'll only be hurting themselves. biggrin

[Felix Virgo]

Taxon Burton

bullshit and lies

Trolls like you make Gaia less fun.

[Mindset]

Taxon Burton

I am a parent who is 49 and I am just wondering if any of you teens would go along and report a childs account on Gaia if the Child was a family member.

I'm 35 and I would report a child's account on Gaia especially if the child was a family member.

Two reasons:

1) Gaia is for ages 13 and up. The child should not be exposed to things that do not suit their age. (Personally if I could I'd block teens from certain forums *cough* GD *cough* until they were 16, minimum. If they could figure out how to get around the block, well, then they're smart and it probably won't kill them, I read Our Bodies Ourselves at age 6 and it didn't hurt me, but I'd hope they'd talk to me about the really unpleasant stuff if they find it.)

2) For legal reasons, Gaia cannot have anyone under the age of 13 sign their TOS. This goes for Facebook as well as Livejournal and many other sites. I would not want the sites I enjoy to get into legal trouble.

"Sharing" and "family" is a bogus reason to let a child have a Facebook or Gaia account. If they like the games so much, they can watch over your shoulder where you can guard what they're seeing.


You should never let a child unsupervised on the internet, and you should never let a child break the terms of service of a website, let alone encourage them to. I cannot believe you are 45 and a parent-- if you are, you are an incredibly irresponsible one.

[Kinny Fear]

Taxon Burton

I am a parent who is 49 and I am just wondering if any of you teens would go along and report a childs account on Gaia if the Child was a family member.

I had this happen to me and my child on Facebook.
One of the family who was a teenager come along and messaged my childs account and said that their account could be banned because she was not over 13.

Now I never read any of those stupid website rules when I sign up because it is just a website where you go to play games or talk to friends so I really did not care to read the legal rubbish.
You can just skip it anyway. It is not like you have not seen the legal text on other websites so I just skip the text all the time.

Anyway, my child found the message and started to cry because she thought that her account was going to be deleted and she has all of her friends and family on there.
Now I got very annoyed at the family member because they were not only saying that her account could be banned but they had made her very upset as well.

All of our family is on Facebook and so are my friends and my childs friends.
I had a word with my husband and we both agreed that the teenager in the family who contacted her should close down their account or we would report the account to the police.

Now this was just a warning to get that teen to stop any of that rubbish happening again but then they went and moaned at me about a website called Gaia Online and about how the users on there will report their family right away since it is the rules of the website after all.


Well I told that teen back that family is far much more important then a website.
Going along and upsetting a family member over a website issue is really horrible and should not happen at all.

If any of you users think that a website and its rules are more important then your family or a family member then you need to get off the website and spent some time with your family since family will always be there for you.
A website is just a website and can go away at any moment.
Rules on a website are nothing to make a big deal out of.

Users on a website should leave website rules or issues to any website staff and the users should just focus on their family in real life or their friends in real life.
Being upset over a person not following the rules on a website and then quoting lines of legal text to protect that website even from a family member shows that you seem to care more for that website then your family.


This is just my view though so take it how you will.

Are you ******** kidding me? The police don't give a s**t as long as your child wasn't being solicited by a *****, and coerced into meeting, cybering or interacting with adults against their will; don't waste their time.
You need to learn to read and follow the rules of the website you're on, or expect to be booted out. By clicking that "I agree" button, you enter a contract. You break the contract, you're out. Why is that concept so difficult for you to grasp?
This website is not a family website. Its targeted demographics are teens to college-aged adults.

[Sinivar]

Taxon Burton

So this is a story all about how my kid's Facebook got flipped, turned upside down. Now lemme take an hour, just sit right here, and I'll tell you how I got my bad parent mode in gear. /troll

I too am a parent. But I happen to think it's a**-RETARDED to teach your kids that it's okay to break the law or not follow rules when it suits them. Anyone who claims it's wrong to report family when they are somewhere they aren't supposed to be, (or in the parents case, prohibiting access) will be the same ones that have that same do-nothing attitude when their kid is the school bully terrorizing all the other kids.

Now, back on topic, laaaaaaaaaaaaaawl. The damn Flintstones used to light up a smoke when they felt like it way back when. If you want to be a -responsible- sibling, you take the message and explain to the younger kid how damaging it can be. And that permanent consequences are not worth temporary gain, like trading health for sex appeal.

You TEACH kids when it comes to things like that. You don't put blinders on them expecting that the bad things in the world really will just go away if the kid can't see it.

[Bardic Inspiration]

If I had kids under the age of 13 on here, I wouldn't let them be.

1) There are worse items than that cig.
2) Gaia TOS is there for a reason. I'd report any of my family if they were on here but underage.
3) Its the parents job to be parents, not the site's job to be parents.
4) The 'parents' on here claiming to be as such, are idiots. Especially if you're telling your kids its okay to lie. I mean really.

[Felix Virgo]

You're redundant, using rather HORRIBLE logic and, if you're a parent, you're a HORRIBLE one.

Other than that, you're trolling and it is wise that you leave before mods decide to find your main, you COWARD.

[shakespearerules]

Taxon Burton

All of our family is on Facebook and so are my friends and my childs friends.
I had a word with my husband and we both agreed that the teenager in the family who contacted her should close down their account or we would report the account to the police.

Taxon Burton

I had a word with my husband and we both agreed that the teenager in the family who contacted her should close down their account or we would report the account to the police.

Taxon Burton

the teenager in the family who contacted her should close down their account or we would report the account to the police.

Taxon Burton

or we would report the account to the police.

Taxon Burton

to the police.

ಠ_ಠ

Let me get this straight. You threatened to report someone to the police...for following the rules? You bullied a teenager into deleting her Facebook because you didn't like that she didn't want a young relative of hers to possibly get hurt by having private information and photographs and such out on the internet where any ***** with a computer could find her? A lot of people don't know how to properly set up the privacy on their Facebook accounts, after all.

If I found out that my little cousins were on here, I'd sure as hell tell them not to get on their accounts, and then after they agreed not to go on until they were 13 report them for being underage just to make sure; Gaia will ban underage users accounts and have them set to un-ban on their 13th birthday. Those rules are in place for a reason. They are there to protect both children from inappropriate content (since they can't be certain the parents have allowed them access), and to protect Gaia from legal action. You know what other people don't turn law-breaking family members over to the cops? Mobsters.

@Sinivar: I lol'd at your summary, but my mom got scared and said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'.

On-topic (lol, this thread had a topic?): The description on the Cig is sarcasm. I suggest you learn how to recognize it. It's admittedly hard on the internet, but if someone says something so incredulous, you have to wonder if they really meant it, then it's probably sarcasm.


Edit:

Facebook Rights and Responsibilities (Terms of Service)

4. Registration and Account Security
Facebook users provide their real names and information, and we need your help to keep it that way. Here are some commitments you make to us relating to registering and maintaining the security of your account:

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3. You will not use Facebook if you are under 13.

Source

Facebook Safety

Children under 13 years old are not permitted access to Facebook. In addition, parents of children 13 years and older should consider whether their child should be supervised during the child's use of the Facebook site.

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Facebook Policy

Children Under Age 13
Facebook does not knowingly collect or solicit personal information from anyone under the age of 13 or knowingly allow such persons to register. If you are under 13, please do not attempt to register for Facebook or send any information about yourself to us, including your name, address, telephone number, or email address. No one under age 13 may provide any personal information to or on Facebook. In the event that we learn that we have collected personal information from a child under age 13 without verification of parental consent, we will delete that information as quickly as possible. If you believe that we might have any information from or about a child under 13, please contact us through the form on our privacy help page.

Source

Facebook has rules. People should learn to follow them.

[Sinivar]

Taxon Burton

Please do not call me a horrible parent just because I think that family comes before internet issues or problems.

From one parent to another, yeah. You kinda are in this case. You're teaching your children that it's okay to circumvent the rules and to lie when signing contracts. And not only that, but trying to punish someone who IS following the rules.

What the hell kind of message is that to teach your child? And I'm damn serious when I ask that. You're supposed to be the role model for your kids and teach them that, though they may impede on your fun sometimes, rules exist for a reason and need to be followed. confused

Unless you're willing for them to eventually break your rules that you set down in your household because they felt that it impeded on what they wanted to do and wasn't really that big of a deal in the long run because they felt they could handle the situation fine themselves.

It's not about putting internet ahead of family. It's about teaching your child to be a decent human being not only with words but by example.