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i don't care how experiences you are, and how you're experienced and all. that is besides the point. because the reality is, the people in the cars don't follow the rules of the road, speed, run reds, and they will run you over and kill you.
someone in my area on a bike gets killed by a car every month.

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In my country it's illegal to ride bikes on the path, so while commuting I have to ride on the road.

Also, speak for your own stupid country, by and large moterist's follow the rules of the road very well and I have very few problems with them when I cycle.

If anything it's cyclists who need to learn the ******** what there doing on the road.

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I've been riding my bicycle on the road for 10 years and I've never been involved in an accident.

Show respect for other road users and they'll show respect to you, size has right of way.
mhmm, right. should we get started on how every smoker is an idiot because people die of that all the time? or that people that don't believe in carrying a gun around are stupid because they are more likely to get murdered? and people that go to concerts are stupid because it's bad for their hearing.


accidents usually happen because people aren't driving like they are supposed to. so i guess anybody driving in a car is stupid too.

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In my country it's illegal to ride bikes on the path, so while commuting I have to ride on the road.

Also, speak for your own stupid country, by and large moterist's follow the rules of the road very well and I have very few problems with them when I cycle.

If anything it's cyclists who need to learn the ******** what there doing on the road.

my country isn't stupid. . .why are you also so quick to insult people like that? "oh, he's different that me. he's from a different place. he's a different religion. he must be stupid!" that's pretty much how all your posts go.

the cars in my city run reds, drive on the sidewalks, cut off school buses. people are getting killed by them all the time, especially bikers.
everyone thinks you Irish are a bunch of drunks. i bet you don't like how that's the general consensus about you're people. maybe I'll say that to you right now, that everything you say is stupid, because you are a drunk. wouldn't that just be plain rude, uncalled for, and ignorant of me?
In many places it's the law that you have to. Even though you don't need a license to ride a bike, there are bike laws in many states. In many places normal car crimes like running a red light or stop sign, driving on the wrong side of the road, and driving at night without lights or reflective gear are also illegal for bikers. And riding on the sidewalk (if there is one) or even all the way to the right of a bike lane is often more hazardous.

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In my country it's illegal to ride bikes on the path, so while commuting I have to ride on the road.

Also, speak for your own stupid country, by and large moterist's follow the rules of the road very well and I have very few problems with them when I cycle.

If anything it's cyclists who need to learn the ******** what there doing on the road.

my country isn't stupid. . .why are you also so quick to insult people like that? "oh, he's different that me. he's from a different place. he's a different religion. he must be stupid!" that's pretty much how all your posts go.

the cars in my city run reds, drive on the sidewalks, cut off school buses. people are getting killed by them all the time, especially bikers.
everyone thinks you Irish are a bunch of drunks. i bet you don't like how that's the general consensus about you're people. maybe I'll say that to you right now, that everything you say is stupid, because you are a drunk. wouldn't that just be plain rude, uncalled for, and ignorant of me?


You think he is Irish when he is British.

So yes that would be very ignorant of you.

and makes you look very very stupid.

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In my country (the netherlands) we have about as many bicyles as we have inhabitants. People are so used to there being cyclists on the road that accidents rarely happen.
My opinion, more people should ride bikes. It's not only healthier and better for the environment, but the more bikes on the road, the less cars that can cause accidents. The more people get on a bike, the safer it becomes.
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Netherlands:


People: 16,652,800
Bicycles: 16,500,000
Cyclists: ~99.1%

In the Netherlands 27% of all trips and 25% of trips to work are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person per day is 2.5 km. Holland and bicycles go together like bread and jam. Despite the recession the cycle-happy Dutch are still spending a lot of money on their bicycles - nearly 1 billion euros’ worth a year. About 1.3 million bicycles were sold in the Netherlands in 2009, at an average price of 713 euros ($1,008 ) each. Amsterdam (the capital and largest city of the Netherlands) is one of the most bicycle-friendly large cities in the world. It has 400 km of bike lanes and nearly 40% of all commutes in Amsterdam are done on bike. Strangely, most cyclists don’t wear helmets. And bike theft is a big problem, with about one of five (20%) bicycles being stolen each year.

For comparison:

USA:


People: 310,936,000
Bicycles: 100,000,000
Bicylists: ~32,2%

In the USA only 0,9% of all trips are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person is 0.1 km.


source: http://top10hell.com/top-10-countries-with-most-bicycles-per-capita/

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In my country it's illegal to ride bikes on the path, so while commuting I have to ride on the road.

Also, speak for your own stupid country, by and large moterist's follow the rules of the road very well and I have very few problems with them when I cycle.

If anything it's cyclists who need to learn the ******** what there doing on the road.

my country isn't stupid. . .why are you also so quick to insult people like that? "oh, he's different that me. he's from a different place. he's a different religion. he must be stupid!" that's pretty much how all your posts go.

the cars in my city run reds, drive on the sidewalks, cut off school buses. people are getting killed by them all the time, especially bikers.
everyone thinks you Irish are a bunch of drunks. i bet you don't like how that's the general consensus about you're people. maybe I'll say that to you right now, that everything you say is stupid, because you are a drunk. wouldn't that just be plain rude, uncalled for, and ignorant of me?


You think he is Irish when he is British.

So yes that would be very ignorant of you.

and makes you look very very stupid.

yeah, because in my stupid country, irish and british are the same people, so i obviously don't give a ********, because you know, everyone in my country is stupid, like he said. we sit around smoking weed and talking stupid s**t, and no one even knows how to count here, because we're all stupid.

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In my country it's illegal to ride bikes on the path, so while commuting I have to ride on the road.

Also, speak for your own stupid country, by and large moterist's follow the rules of the road very well and I have very few problems with them when I cycle.

If anything it's cyclists who need to learn the ******** what there doing on the road.

my country isn't stupid. . .why are you also so quick to insult people like that? "oh, he's different that me. he's from a different place. he's a different religion. he must be stupid!" that's pretty much how all your posts go.

Not all of them.

But if you are actually proposing that the majority of motorists in your country can't drive.
The majority are stupid, as are your national regulations for allowing them to drive in the first place when they are obviously incapable.

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the cars in my city run reds, drive on the sidewalks, cut off school buses. people are getting killed by them all the time, especially bikers.

This happens everywhere.

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everyone thinks you Irish are a bunch of drunks. i bet you don't like how that's the general consensus about you're people. maybe I'll say that to you right now, that everything you say is stupid, because you are a drunk. wouldn't that just be plain rude, uncalled for, and ignorant of me?

Us Irish are a bunch of drunks, as a nation we have one of the highest Alcohol abuse and dependency rates in the world , per capita we consume more Alcohol than any other nation in the world.
We have a rediculous Alcohol culture.

Most men I know spend more time down the local than at home with the family.

You are also free to call me a drunk if you want, it would be silly since im a T-totaler.
But im not so p***y as to get offended by a few mean words over the big bad internet.

Edit: Damnit, just checked we no longer top the per-capita consumption rate, we have fallen from grace...still top four by recorded though..oorah!

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In my country (the netherlands) we have about as many bicyles as we have inhabitants. People are so used to there being cyclists on the road that accidents rarely happen.
My opinion, more people should ride bikes. It's not only healthier and better for the environment, but the more bikes on the road, the less cars that can cause accidents. The more people get on a bike, the safer it becomes.
Quote:

Netherlands:


People: 16,652,800
Bicycles: 16,500,000
Cyclists: ~99.1%

In the Netherlands 27% of all trips and 25% of trips to work are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person per day is 2.5 km. Holland and bicycles go together like bread and jam. Despite the recession the cycle-happy Dutch are still spending a lot of money on their bicycles - nearly 1 billion euros’ worth a year. About 1.3 million bicycles were sold in the Netherlands in 2009, at an average price of 713 euros ($1,008 ) each. Amsterdam (the capital and largest city of the Netherlands) is one of the most bicycle-friendly large cities in the world. It has 400 km of bike lanes and nearly 40% of all commutes in Amsterdam are done on bike. Strangely, most cyclists don’t wear helmets. And bike theft is a big problem, with about one of five (20%) bicycles being stolen each year.

For comparison:

USA:


People: 310,936,000
Bicycles: 100,000,000
Bicylists: ~32,2%

In the USA only 0,9% of all trips are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person is 0.1 km.


source: http://top10hell.com/top-10-countries-with-most-bicycles-per-capita/

i'm not saying it's unhealthy. i'm saying the people where i live are angry, arrogant, lazy ******** who don't give a s**t about anyone else but themselves, and they drive round with no regard for anyone else, so it is not safe for people to ride bikes on our roads. if everyone were driving bikes and not cars, it would be different.

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In my country it's illegal to ride bikes on the path, so while commuting I have to ride on the road.

Also, speak for your own stupid country, by and large moterist's follow the rules of the road very well and I have very few problems with them when I cycle.

If anything it's cyclists who need to learn the ******** what there doing on the road.

my country isn't stupid. . .why are you also so quick to insult people like that? "oh, he's different that me. he's from a different place. he's a different religion. he must be stupid!" that's pretty much how all your posts go.

Not all of them.

But if you are actually proposing that the majority of motorists in your country can't drive.
The majority are stupid, as are your national regulations for allowing them to drive in the first place when they are obviously incapable.

Quote:
the cars in my city run reds, drive on the sidewalks, cut off school buses. people are getting killed by them all the time, especially bikers.

This happens everywhere.

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everyone thinks you Irish are a bunch of drunks. i bet you don't like how that's the general consensus about you're people. maybe I'll say that to you right now, that everything you say is stupid, because you are a drunk. wouldn't that just be plain rude, uncalled for, and ignorant of me?

Us Irish are a bunch of drunks, as a nation we have one of the highest Alcohol abuse and dependency rates in the world , per capita we consume more Alcohol than any other nation in the world.
We have a rediculous Alcohol culture.

Most men I know spend more time down the local than at home with the family.

You are also free to call me a drunk if you want, it would be silly since im a T-totaler.
But im not so p***y as to get offended by a few mean words over the big bad internet.

Edit: Damnit, just checked we no longer top the per-capita consumption rate, we have fallen from grace!

so you are irish! i knew you lived in britain, but i always thought you were originally from ireland.

my country isn't stupid. it's that most of our people are selfish and have no consideration for anyone else. there is a difference.
who has the most drunks now? is it Quebec? the whole place is just rednecks and bars.

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lord_william_nilsson
In my country (the netherlands) we have about as many bicyles as we have inhabitants. People are so used to there being cyclists on the road that accidents rarely happen.
My opinion, more people should ride bikes. It's not only healthier and better for the environment, but the more bikes on the road, the less cars that can cause accidents. The more people get on a bike, the safer it becomes.
Quote:

Netherlands:


People: 16,652,800
Bicycles: 16,500,000
Cyclists: ~99.1%

In the Netherlands 27% of all trips and 25% of trips to work are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person per day is 2.5 km. Holland and bicycles go together like bread and jam. Despite the recession the cycle-happy Dutch are still spending a lot of money on their bicycles - nearly 1 billion euros’ worth a year. About 1.3 million bicycles were sold in the Netherlands in 2009, at an average price of 713 euros ($1,008 ) each. Amsterdam (the capital and largest city of the Netherlands) is one of the most bicycle-friendly large cities in the world. It has 400 km of bike lanes and nearly 40% of all commutes in Amsterdam are done on bike. Strangely, most cyclists don’t wear helmets. And bike theft is a big problem, with about one of five (20%) bicycles being stolen each year.

For comparison:

USA:


People: 310,936,000
Bicycles: 100,000,000
Bicylists: ~32,2%

In the USA only 0,9% of all trips are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person is 0.1 km.


source: http://top10hell.com/top-10-countries-with-most-bicycles-per-capita/

i'm not saying it's unhealthy. i'm saying the people where i live are angry, arrogant, lazy ******** who don't give a s**t about anyone else but themselves, and they drive round with no regard for anyone else, so it is not safe for people to ride bikes on our roads. if everyone were driving bikes and not cars, it would be different.


I understand what you said. I'm just saying that, to me, there seem to be more reasons to start using a bike than to discourage others not to use one.
With every person that gets on a bike, it becomes relatively safer for the other cyclists. If less people start using bikes, it becomes even more dangerous for those who still do.

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In my country it's illegal to ride bikes on the path, so while commuting I have to ride on the road.

Also, speak for your own stupid country, by and large moterist's follow the rules of the road very well and I have very few problems with them when I cycle.

If anything it's cyclists who need to learn the ******** what there doing on the road.

my country isn't stupid. . .why are you also so quick to insult people like that? "oh, he's different that me. he's from a different place. he's a different religion. he must be stupid!" that's pretty much how all your posts go.

Not all of them.

But if you are actually proposing that the majority of motorists in your country can't drive.
The majority are stupid, as are your national regulations for allowing them to drive in the first place when they are obviously incapable.

Quote:
the cars in my city run reds, drive on the sidewalks, cut off school buses. people are getting killed by them all the time, especially bikers.

This happens everywhere.

Quote:
everyone thinks you Irish are a bunch of drunks. i bet you don't like how that's the general consensus about you're people. maybe I'll say that to you right now, that everything you say is stupid, because you are a drunk. wouldn't that just be plain rude, uncalled for, and ignorant of me?

Us Irish are a bunch of drunks, as a nation we have one of the highest Alcohol abuse and dependency rates in the world , per capita we consume more Alcohol than any other nation in the world.
We have a rediculous Alcohol culture.

Most men I know spend more time down the local than at home with the family.

You are also free to call me a drunk if you want, it would be silly since im a T-totaler.
But im not so p***y as to get offended by a few mean words over the big bad internet.

Edit: Damnit, just checked we no longer top the per-capita consumption rate, we have fallen from grace!

so you are irish! i knew you lived in britain, but i always thought you were originally from ireland.


I'm originally from there and I go over every now and again to visit family and to generally chill.

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my country isn't stupid. it's that most of our people are selfish and have no consideration for anyone else. there is a difference.

Not much of a difference, I would say emotional immaturity like that falls under the wide banner of "Stupid" it's a very generic and multi-applicable term.

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who has the most drunks now? is it Quebec? the whole place is just rednecks and bars.
Moldova apparently, but that comes from a lot of "professional speculation" since evidence is hard to find.

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In my country (the netherlands) we have about as many bicyles as we have inhabitants. People are so used to there being cyclists on the road that accidents rarely happen.
My opinion, more people should ride bikes. It's not only healthier and better for the environment, but the more bikes on the road, the less cars that can cause accidents. The more people get on a bike, the safer it becomes.
Quote:

Netherlands:


People: 16,652,800
Bicycles: 16,500,000
Cyclists: ~99.1%

In the Netherlands 27% of all trips and 25% of trips to work are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person per day is 2.5 km. Holland and bicycles go together like bread and jam. Despite the recession the cycle-happy Dutch are still spending a lot of money on their bicycles - nearly 1 billion euros’ worth a year. About 1.3 million bicycles were sold in the Netherlands in 2009, at an average price of 713 euros ($1,008 ) each. Amsterdam (the capital and largest city of the Netherlands) is one of the most bicycle-friendly large cities in the world. It has 400 km of bike lanes and nearly 40% of all commutes in Amsterdam are done on bike. Strangely, most cyclists don’t wear helmets. And bike theft is a big problem, with about one of five (20%) bicycles being stolen each year.

For comparison:

USA:


People: 310,936,000
Bicycles: 100,000,000
Bicylists: ~32,2%

In the USA only 0,9% of all trips are made by bike. The average distance cycled per person is 0.1 km.


source: http://top10hell.com/top-10-countries-with-most-bicycles-per-capita/

i'm not saying it's unhealthy. i'm saying the people where i live are angry, arrogant, lazy ******** who don't give a s**t about anyone else but themselves, and they drive round with no regard for anyone else, so it is not safe for people to ride bikes on our roads. if everyone were driving bikes and not cars, it would be different.


I understand what you said. I'm just saying that, to me, there seem to be more reasons to start using a bike than to discourage others not to use one.
With every person that gets on a bike, it becomes relatively safer for the other cyclists. If less people start using bikes, it becomes even more dangerous for those who still do.

the people in my country are fat and lazy. most 20 year olds can't even walk up one flight of stairs without getting tired. they get most of their calories from Starbucks(you think McDonald's is bad, Starbucks is worse. It's all ******** sugar. At least mcdonalds has some protein and some lettuce on those burgers), adn then they expect me to feel sorry for the because they feel sick.
I asked this girl once, "why are you taking the elevator down? it's only 4 flights of stairs(going down, not even going up)" and she's like, "oh, ,my back hurts". yeah, your back hurts because you're fat. start using the stairs.
and then you offer these people an apple or something, and they flip out and look at you like, "what makes you think I would eat an apple?" like you're terrible person for suggesting they eat a fruit. and they won't try new foods. I offered quinoa to them once, and they're like, "i'm not eating that! i'll stick to my white rice instead."

i'd hate to see what USA is like, because if my country is like this, and their country is the laziest country in the world, it must be unimagineable there

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