New Gamers have no skill

[Skeiver Advanced]

Armored Cavalry

Skeiver Advanced

Danna_no_L

Also another point in m littel rant was to also say how easy it is to play new games , I beat almost all the new "good" games I like have had like two games I haven't beat and that most time pepole spend at a game is a good 9 hours. Like look at Halo, Gears, Call of Duty too sempel.

I only haven't beat is Assain's Creed becase I am lazy and it is too tedous for words. Also Prototype (the lesser) and InFomus (The geater) becase I don't have the cash for them.

Something just occured to me...

How the ******** are you gonna play CoD 4 on Veteran and say the ending of the sniper mission was easy?

Answer: You didn't play it.

Virtually any shooter on a "Veteran" difficulty is hard. It's not that the enemies are shooting at you when you're playing higher difficulties - they are, quite literally, shooting you.

And you have less health, they're smarter etc.

Still harder than any old game I've ever played.

[Raven Incognito]

Armored Cavalry

Wouldn't the need for infinite lives suggest that a game is, in fact, difficult?

I'd imagine so.
What's your point?

[Soniwizard]

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Soniwizard

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Danna_no_L

First off haveing less life dose make a game more difficult if you had a hundred lifes and played mario unless your in a coma or just brain dead you will beat the game. Not only that alout of these games are hard and jut becase you beat them dosen't make them less so it like saying I have turn 10 and then I turned 11 dosen't mean I wasn't 10 one time in my life.And you probly didn't find it all too dificult but at the same time you probly played it more then once so stop makeing it sound like your a gameing god both you damn trolls.

Saying that I beat them and didn't have a challenge means that you saying that they are hard is irrelevant, because I'm proving that opinion wrong.

Proving that opinion wrong?

That makes absolutely no sense. confused

It makes plenty of sense.
It's an opinion that the games are hard.
It is not fact.

But just the fact of it being a matter of opinion means it can't be proven wrong in the first place =/

Sorry, that's incorrect.
An opinion that's trying to be passed off as fact can be proven wrong.

Who said anything about passing it off as fact?

[zaptar13]

ok gamers today that cheat have no skill otherwise everyone else is about good or moderate

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Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Wouldn't the need for infinite lives suggest that a game is, in fact, difficult?

I'd imagine so.
What's your point?

Raven Incognito

3. Video games were never hard. Prove me wrong.

I need not saying anything else.

[Ben Hyuga]

Danna_no_L

Also another point in m littel rant was to also say how easy it is to play new games , I beat almost all the new "good" games I like have had like two games I haven't beat and that most time pepole spend at a game is a good 9 hours. Like look at Halo, Gears, Call of Duty too sempel.

I only haven't beat is Assain's Creed becase I am lazy and it is too tedous for words. Also Prototype (the lesser) and InFomus (The geater) becase I don't have the cash for them.

1. Ever think that maybe that after all your years of gaming that you could have oh I don't know gotten better at games?
2. Lol that you say CoD is simple yet you say older games were more complex.(I assume this is what you're saying)
3. Personal experience does not equal fact. Say if I have a hard time beating a sports game. Does it make it hard for 100% of the people playing it.

[Skeiver Advanced]

Soniwizard

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Soniwizard

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Soniwizard

Proving that opinion wrong?

That makes absolutely no sense. confused

It makes plenty of sense.
It's an opinion that the games are hard.
It is not fact.

But just the fact of it being a matter of opinion means it can't be proven wrong in the first place =/

Sorry, that's incorrect.
An opinion that's trying to be passed off as fact can be proven wrong.

Who said anything about passing it off as fact?

The OP. Did you read his post at all?

[Raven Incognito]

Armored Cavalry

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Wouldn't the need for infinite lives suggest that a game is, in fact, difficult?

I'd imagine so.
What's your point?

Raven Incognito

3. Video games were never hard. Prove me wrong.

I need not saying anything else.

Sorry, try again.

Armored Cavalry

Wouldn't the need for infinite lives suggest that a game is, in fact, difficult?

You don't need infinite lives to beat the games.
It just removes the harsher penalty for failure.

Show me a game that NEEDS infinite lives to beat.

[Ben Hyuga]

Soniwizard

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Soniwizard

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Soniwizard

Proving that opinion wrong?

That makes absolutely no sense. confused

It makes plenty of sense.
It's an opinion that the games are hard.
It is not fact.

But just the fact of it being a matter of opinion means it can't be proven wrong in the first place =/

Sorry, that's incorrect.
An opinion that's trying to be passed off as fact can be proven wrong.

Who said anything about passing it off as fact?

The OP.

[Valkyrie Brynhildr]

Milady Chris Lightfellow

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Milady Chris Lightfellow

Danna_no_L

Play Contra or Gost and Goblens without cheats, maybe play old Megaman you know before you get things like charge shots and dashes, maybe try beating streetfighter or Fattel Furry on hardest difficulty and then there is the widow maker Batman and Ninja Giden.

And on Sega well Streets of Rage, Alter Beast, and so much more.

I mean looking back you don't hear any gamers now complainingabout diffculty and they sell PS2 and Xbox games by the dosen but it is so much harder to get older games case no one beat alot of the games and still trying or they did and it so fun they can't let it go.

Contra - Did it. Only died once. Beat the game.

Ghost and Goblins - Got to the second to last level without dying once, than karma bit me. I got a Game Over and raged.

Megaman - Beat it without dying once.

Megaman 2 - Same.

Megaman 3 - Died twice (DISAPPEARING BLOCKS ARE THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE!!!!), then beat the game.

Ninja Gaiden - Beat it, didn't die once. On most levels, I didn't even take damage.

Ninja Gaiden II - Beat it, no deaths, no damage. It was actually easier than the original...

Try having these new-school gamers play Doom 2 on the hardest difficulty, no cheats allowed. And no checking walkthroughs, videos, etc. They have to go in blind.

... It's probably one of the cruelest things you could do to a person.

Ever play Nethack?

Never heard of it. What is it?

Fairly old computer game. Extremely difficult.

I've only beat it once out of 500+ games.

http://www.nethack.org/

[Raven Incognito]

Soniwizard

Raven Incognito

Soniwizard

Raven Incognito

Soniwizard

Proving that opinion wrong?

That makes absolutely no sense. confused

It makes plenty of sense.
It's an opinion that the games are hard.
It is not fact.

But just the fact of it being a matter of opinion means it can't be proven wrong in the first place =/

Sorry, that's incorrect.
An opinion that's trying to be passed off as fact can be proven wrong.

Who said anything about passing it off as fact?

Maybe... anybody who's been arguing it for these 5 pages?

[Armored Cavalry]

Skeiver Advanced

Armored Cavalry

Skeiver Advanced

Danna_no_L

Also another point in m littel rant was to also say how easy it is to play new games , I beat almost all the new "good" games I like have had like two games I haven't beat and that most time pepole spend at a game is a good 9 hours. Like look at Halo, Gears, Call of Duty too sempel.

I only haven't beat is Assain's Creed becase I am lazy and it is too tedous for words. Also Prototype (the lesser) and InFomus (The geater) becase I don't have the cash for them.

Something just occured to me...

How the ******** are you gonna play CoD 4 on Veteran and say the ending of the sniper mission was easy?

Answer: You didn't play it.

Virtually any shooter on a "Veteran" difficulty is hard. It's not that the enemies are shooting at you when you're playing higher difficulties - they are, quite literally, shooting you.

And you have less health, they're smarter etc.

Still harder than any old game I've ever played.

I do think it's ridiculous, though, that even if no one could have possibly seen you sneak away from the spot you were at when they were shooting at you, the enemy AI somehow manages to put a couple bullets in your brain as soon as you peek around your new corner.

[Regal Reprobation]

Armored Cavalry

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Wouldn't the need for infinite lives suggest that a game is, in fact, difficult?

I'd imagine so.
What's your point?

Raven Incognito

3. Video games were never hard. Prove me wrong.

I need not saying anything else.

Just because one person may find it difficult, doesn't mean it's universally hard. neutral

[Sharpii3 Munch3r]

Danna_no_L

Play Contra or Gost and Goblens without cheats, maybe play old Megaman you know before you get things like charge shots and dashes, maybe try beating streetfighter or Fattel Furry on hardest difficulty and then there is the widow maker Batman and Ninja Giden.

And on Sega well Streets of Rage, Alter Beast, and so much more.

I mean looking back you don't hear any gamers now complainingabout diffculty and they sell PS2 and Xbox games by the dosen but it is so much harder to get older games case no one beat alot of the games and still trying or they did and it so fun they can't let it go.

Yeah ninja gaiden sigma is a ***** to not die in.

[Armored Cavalry]

Regal Reprobation

Armored Cavalry

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Wouldn't the need for infinite lives suggest that a game is, in fact, difficult?

I'd imagine so.
What's your point?

Raven Incognito

3. Video games were never hard. Prove me wrong.

I need not saying anything else.

Just because one person may find it difficult, doesn't mean it's universally hard. neutral

Perhaps, but I did expose this fool for a hypocrite.