New Gamers have no skill

[Raven Incognito]

Danna_no_L

Raven Incognito

Gamingnerd

Raven Incognito

Gamingnerd

lolwut?

Seems like someone's afraid to admit defeat, or trying to avoid it without creating an argument as to how example'd games can be "easy"....

That doesn't prove me wrong.
Unless you'd like to point out where I said, in specific terms, that a game that can be beaten is automatically easy while a game that can't possibly be beaten is automatically hard?

No, I'm sorry but you're just creating an unrealistic argument with people here, because you're obviously not being clear about your statement whatsoever, despite the numerous attempts and angles we've been going at trying to figure out this so-called "POINT" you've been trying to give us, so there's really no point in continuing this. Go and consider yourself "victorious" because I really just don't care anymore. I'll go back to playing my games like the good and nice person I am, thx.

I've already quite plainly stated the point multiple times. You just aren't reading it.
I want proof of hard games.
Names should be easy to give, since people seem so adamant that they exist to a great degree, but nobody can give one.

Thus, I have obviously been right all along.

LoL I can't beleave I got you guys in this stupid paradox XD
You do realise the answer is there is no hard games but every game is hard at the same time. Just becase a game is easy to you dose not make it easy game for others but it is still easy for you so there is no answer to my statement. And I wasted your time XD

Except you had nothing to do with it.
You really think you're the source of this argument that I've already had in countless threads?

[Raven Incognito]

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

[Lyndis Rain]

Oh, here's one: Siberia for Sega Saturn. It was pretty hard. I could never figure out what to do either. I just gave up on it (also, it was my friend's game that he rented, so I only had it for a couple hours).

[A VVild Snorlax]

remember sega cd and wut a crap system it was

[Lyndis Rain]

xMIYAZAKI-CHANx

remember sega cd and wut a crap system it was

It had it's... one good game. Fail system was fail.

[Sieg of Gale Strike]

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

[Raven Incognito]

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

I'll be here. I'm just playing games on my TV next to the computer.

[Lyndis Rain]

How about Einhander for PS1? That game got sickeningly hard at some points.

[Sieg of Gale Strike]

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

I'll be here. I'm just playing games on my TV next to the computer.

Here you go then:
http://ds.ign.com/articles/898/898326p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169335&p=39&sec=REVIEWS
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/bangaiospirits/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
http://nds.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r34473.htm

And a couple videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdSszMvaAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sja2kdbUTZc

Now, after you're done checking those out, if you still feel that this game doesn't sound or look hard, I still dare you to pick it up. Keep in mind, I posted info for Bangai-O Spirits since it's more readily available, and it's damn near close to the original.

[Regal Tokoro]

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

I'll be here. I'm just playing games on my TV next to the computer.

Here you go then:
http://ds.ign.com/articles/898/898326p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169335&p=39&sec=REVIEWS
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/bangaiospirits/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
http://nds.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r34473.htm

And a couple videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdSszMvaAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sja2kdbUTZc

Now, after you're done checking those out, if you still feel that this game doesn't sound or look hard, I still dare you to pick it up. Keep in mind, I posted info for Bangai-O Spirits since it's more readily available, and it's damn near close to the original.

*sigh* Again, just because one person thinks a game is hard, doesn't mean the game is universally hard.

[JKH]

1. Learn to spell.
2. You haven't really made much of a point aside from saying that old games are hard.
3. You never really tell me why the hell I should care.
4. I don't care.
5. Have a nice day.

[Sieg of Gale Strike]

Regal Tokoro

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

I'll be here. I'm just playing games on my TV next to the computer.

Here you go then:
http://ds.ign.com/articles/898/898326p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169335&p=39&sec=REVIEWS
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/bangaiospirits/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
http://nds.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r34473.htm

And a couple videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdSszMvaAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sja2kdbUTZc

Now, after you're done checking those out, if you still feel that this game doesn't sound or look hard, I still dare you to pick it up. Keep in mind, I posted info for Bangai-O Spirits since it's more readily available, and it's damn near close to the original.

*sigh* Again, just because one person thinks a game is hard, doesn't mean the game is universally hard.

Did you read that first of all? I highly doubt you did.
These Tokoro clones sometimes........

[Raven Incognito]

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

I'll be here. I'm just playing games on my TV next to the computer.

Here you go then:
http://ds.ign.com/articles/898/898326p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169335&p=39&sec=REVIEWS
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/bangaiospirits/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
http://nds.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r34473.htm

And a couple videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdSszMvaAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sja2kdbUTZc

Now, after you're done checking those out, if you still feel that this game doesn't sound or look hard, I still dare you to pick it up. Keep in mind, I posted info for Bangai-O Spirits since it's more readily available, and it's damn near close to the original.

I passed on the reviews because those would be based on opinion anyways.

But maybe it's just the videos you chose, but the game itself doesn't look too hard from those videos. Yes, bullets are everywhere, but, and especially in the second video, he seems to be able to take quite a few of them easily so long as he grabs pickups and just spam big explodey things that don't seem to be able to miss.
The first video flashes clips so quickly that you don't even get an idea for the game.

So still, doesn't look like perfect proof. Maybe with better videos?

[Regal Reprobation]

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Regal Tokoro

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

I'll be here. I'm just playing games on my TV next to the computer.

Here you go then:
http://ds.ign.com/articles/898/898326p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169335&p=39&sec=REVIEWS
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/bangaiospirits/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
http://nds.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r34473.htm

And a couple videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdSszMvaAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sja2kdbUTZc

Now, after you're done checking those out, if you still feel that this game doesn't sound or look hard, I still dare you to pick it up. Keep in mind, I posted info for Bangai-O Spirits since it's more readily available, and it's damn near close to the original.

*sigh* Again, just because one person thinks a game is hard, doesn't mean the game is universally hard.

Did you read that first of all? I highly doubt you did.
These Tokoro clones sometimes........

FYI, I've been here since the first few pages. Did you read all the other pages up till now? I doubt it. These hypocrites sometimes.......

[Sieg of Gale Strike]

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

Raven Incognito

Strike Valkyrie mk2

@ Raven Incognito:
You want a hard game? Then I dare you to pick up Bangai-O Spirits for the DS, or the original Bangai-O for the Dreamcast. And guess what, both those games, have no cheat codes. So you can't say you picked it up and played it without dying once. Ask anyone that has played either game, and they will tell you the same thing:
Fun as hell, but even harder as hell. Even the veterans of this game will say it's a major challenge.

Proof, not opinions.
I'm not going to buy a game so that you can avoid proving your own argument.

You want proof?
Hang around a bit. I'll give you so much proof your head will explode.

I'll be here. I'm just playing games on my TV next to the computer.

Here you go then:
http://ds.ign.com/articles/898/898326p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169335&p=39&sec=REVIEWS
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/bangaiospirits/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;read-review
http://nds.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r34473.htm

And a couple videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGdSszMvaAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sja2kdbUTZc

Now, after you're done checking those out, if you still feel that this game doesn't sound or look hard, I still dare you to pick it up. Keep in mind, I posted info for Bangai-O Spirits since it's more readily available, and it's damn near close to the original.

I passed on the reviews because those would be based on opinion anyways.

But maybe it's just the videos you chose, but the game itself doesn't look too hard from those videos. Yes, bullets are everywhere, but, and especially in the second video, he seems to be able to take quite a few of them easily so long as he grabs pickups and just spam big explodey things that don't seem to be able to miss.
The first video flashes clips so quickly that you don't even get an idea for the game.

So still, doesn't look like perfect proof. Maybe with better videos?

As much as I would like to spend more time, I have better things to do.
As I said before, just pick it up, even if it's a rental, and try for yourself.