New Gamers have no skill

[Raven Incognito]

Bubsy

Raven Incognito

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Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Stopped there.
You're obviously not going to prove that any game is hard.

Keep reading, failure.

Does the post contain the name of a game that is quite definitely hard, regardless of player or skill level?
Then there's no reason to keep reading.
You didn't prove anything.

Funny stuff, calling me the failure when you've been flailing against the brick wall of my argument for this many pages.

TEAR DOWN THE WALL>>>

Games are hard if you don't know how to play them. So therefore...

Which doesn't make the game universally hard.
If I don't know how to play it, and another person does, and they find it easy, then the game is not universally hard.
I don't know how to speak German. Does that make speaking German universally hard?

[The Glorious Leader]

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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oh well, i dont want to sit here and waste my time arguing about something that really doesnt matter to me. wow lives in a video game, shouldnt we just be happy with being able to play a game and not worry about it being hard or easy unless we are looking for a challenge or just something to play? sure lives are a good thing to have but you should just enjoy your games.

Ummm...I take it you never intended to debate, huh?

Not when I got here.... >.>

My advice:
1) Learn who the regular trolls are in the VGD.
2) If you see an argument you don't want to get caught up in, just leave, especially with the regular trolls in it.

You'll save yourself a lot of trouble.

Yeah, thanks.

Don't let today's events stop you from enjoying your 4th of July...unless you don't live in the US...

You say it like everyone not in the US has to have a shitty day today.

[Bubsy]

The Phrase New Gamers have no skill is quite true, as you develop your skill at games by.. Playing Games.

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The Glorious Leader

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

Not when I got here.... >.>

My advice:
1) Learn who the regular trolls are in the VGD.
2) If you see an argument you don't want to get caught up in, just leave, especially with the regular trolls in it.

You'll save yourself a lot of trouble.

Yeah, thanks.

Don't let today's events stop you from enjoying your 4th of July...unless you don't live in the US...

You say it like everyone not in the US has to have a shitty day today.

Of course. If you don't live in the US, you always have a shitty day. dramallama

[x Disgaea x]

Bubsy

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Stopped there.
You're obviously not going to prove that any game is hard.

Keep reading, failure.

Does the post contain the name of a game that is quite definitely hard, regardless of player or skill level?
Then there's no reason to keep reading.
You didn't prove anything.

Funny stuff, calling me the failure when you've been flailing against the brick wall of my argument for this many pages.

TEAR DOWN THE WALL>>>

Games are hard if you don't know how to play them. So therefore...

pretty much, the way i see it ^,..,^

[P e m o -The- P a n d a]

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

oh well, i dont want to sit here and waste my time arguing about something that really doesnt matter to me. wow lives in a video game, shouldnt we just be happy with being able to play a game and not worry about it being hard or easy unless we are looking for a challenge or just something to play? sure lives are a good thing to have but you should just enjoy your games.

Ummm...I take it you never intended to debate, huh?

Not when I got here.... >.>

My advice:
1) Learn who the regular trolls are in the VGD.
2) If you see an argument you don't want to get caught up in, just leave, especially with the regular trolls in it.

You'll save yourself a lot of trouble.

Yeah, thanks.

Don't let today's events stop you from enjoying your 4th of July...unless you don't live in the US...

I do. Thank you and you too ^.^

[Raven Incognito]

Sharpii3 Munch3r

I'm going to attempt even asking this no matter how stupid it is....

Raven, what IS a HARD game to you? What would make it hard?

Or maybe are you just playing all the easy games? o.o

A hard game would be something that is difficult to complete.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Proving something is definitively hard is where the problem lies, since skill, player, and game all play factors.

[Bubsy]

Raven Incognito

Bubsy

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Stopped there.
You're obviously not going to prove that any game is hard.

Keep reading, failure.

Does the post contain the name of a game that is quite definitely hard, regardless of player or skill level?
Then there's no reason to keep reading.
You didn't prove anything.

Funny stuff, calling me the failure when you've been flailing against the brick wall of my argument for this many pages.

TEAR DOWN THE WALL>>>

Games are hard if you don't know how to play them. So therefore...

Which doesn't make the game universally hard.
If I don't know how to play it, and another person does, and they find it easy, then the game is not universally hard.
I don't know how to speak German. Does that make speaking German universally hard?

Yes if you don't know how to speak German.

[The Glorious Leader]

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The Glorious Leader

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

Not when I got here.... >.>

My advice:
1) Learn who the regular trolls are in the VGD.
2) If you see an argument you don't want to get caught up in, just leave, especially with the regular trolls in it.

You'll save yourself a lot of trouble.

Yeah, thanks.

Don't let today's events stop you from enjoying your 4th of July...unless you don't live in the US...

You say it like everyone not in the US has to have a shitty day today.

Of course. If you don't live in the US, you always have a shitty day. dramallama

Unless you live in Soviet Russia.

[Raven Incognito]

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@Raven Incognito: Face it - you stopped reading and started chomping on your nails when I pointed out that difficulty is a variable because you know that by that reasoning, if everyone sucks, then the game is hard.

What's your point?
I'm not arguing that.
I'm asking you to point out a game that's universally hard, that EVERYBODY sucks at.
Possibilities are irrelevant.
You do not provide proof. You provide theories and opinion.
Therefore you fail at the argument.

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The Glorious Leader

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

Yeah, thanks.

Don't let today's events stop you from enjoying your 4th of July...unless you don't live in the US...

You say it like everyone not in the US has to have a shitty day today.

Of course. If you don't live in the US, you always have a shitty day. dramallama

Unless you live in Soviet Russia.

Because then, Shitty days have YOU.

[Raven Incognito]

Bubsy

Raven Incognito

Bubsy

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Keep reading, failure.

Does the post contain the name of a game that is quite definitely hard, regardless of player or skill level?
Then there's no reason to keep reading.
You didn't prove anything.

Funny stuff, calling me the failure when you've been flailing against the brick wall of my argument for this many pages.

TEAR DOWN THE WALL>>>

Games are hard if you don't know how to play them. So therefore...

Which doesn't make the game universally hard.
If I don't know how to play it, and another person does, and they find it easy, then the game is not universally hard.
I don't know how to speak German. Does that make speaking German universally hard?

Yes if you don't know how to speak German.

If I don't know how to speak German, it's hard for everybody to speak German?
Right.
I'm sure that makes sense in your little world.

[The Glorious Leader]

Raven Incognito

Bubsy

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Stopped there.
You're obviously not going to prove that any game is hard.

Keep reading, failure.

Does the post contain the name of a game that is quite definitely hard, regardless of player or skill level?
Then there's no reason to keep reading.
You didn't prove anything.

Funny stuff, calling me the failure when you've been flailing against the brick wall of my argument for this many pages.

TEAR DOWN THE WALL>>>

Games are hard if you don't know how to play them. So therefore...

Which doesn't make the game universally hard.
If I don't know how to play it, and another person does, and they find it easy, then the game is not universally hard.
I don't know how to speak German. Does that make speaking German universally hard?

Can't we universally agree that there are no universals?

[P e m o -The- P a n d a]

Raven Incognito

Sharpii3 Munch3r

I'm going to attempt even asking this no matter how stupid it is....

Raven, what IS a HARD game to you? What would make it hard?

Or maybe are you just playing all the easy games? o.o

A hard game would be something that is difficult to complete.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Proving something is definitively hard is where the problem lies, since skill, player, and game all play factors.

There are a lot of those. But, seeing as how you could probably complete them eventually anyway it gets easier as you go. But if it is your first time playing a game then it would be more difficult and as you go it would get easier.


P.S. I will read posts when I get back, I am going to the store.

[Soniwizard]

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