New Gamers have no skill

[Milady Chris Lightfellow]

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Milady Chris Lightfellow

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Milady Chris Lightfellow

We're living in a day where people said Megaman 9 is 'too hard'.

Um, I actually feel that Megaman 9 is easier than the original Megaman...

I found it harder.

Of course I'm going for achievments, so...

Achievements are just that... achievements. Most have nothing to do with actually beating the game.

Plus, the Wii version achievements are actually harder.

*remembers Ms Perfect as a GREAT example*

It has that on the 360 too, but there's the actual achievments that get you gamerscore.

I'm never getting the "beat the game without taking damage", though. EVER.

There's another that's 'beating the game without missing a shot'...

[Lt Derp]

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

Look, if you don't play the game for the intended purpose, of course it's going to be easy.

Intent is in the person playing it.
Some people play RPGs for the story. Some people play it for the strategy. Still others play it for the characters.
Are you going to tell them why they should play their games?
No.

I shall stop arguing with you now.
You're just going to end up suddenly agreeing with me anyways. >.>

The intended purpose is what the developers had in mind. They didn't want everyone running around using the Konami code willy nilly to beat the game. They wanted everyone to try their damnedest to play the game without dieing to get the highest score.

And that's only with trolls.

You saying you're a troll?

You mean you don't know who I am?

Regardless, I already said I am not going to argue it more with you.
I don't care what anybody else thinks should be the reason why I play my games.

I'll take that as a victory.

And no. I can't say I've seen you before. Sorry.

A victory because you were arguing the wrong thing and not proving me wrong?

Riiiight.

Hey, whoever said what my goals were?
I just decided that it was to make you quit.


... Tails Bound?

[Snack-O-Saurus]

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Skeiver Advanced

Milady Chris Lightfellow

We're living in a day where people said Megaman 9 is 'too hard'.

Um, I actually feel that Megaman 9 is easier than the original Megaman...

I found it harder.

Of course I'm going for achievments, so...

Achievements are just that... achievements. Most have nothing to do with actually beating the game.

Plus, the Wii version achievements are actually harder.

*remembers Ms Perfect as a GREAT example*

I really need to get around to playing the DLC level and fight that extra boss.. Oh man, the cravings.D=

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Neo Tokoro

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

The intended purpose is what the developers had in mind. They didn't want everyone running around using the Konami code willy nilly to beat the game. They wanted everyone to try their damnedest to play the game without dieing to get the highest score.

And that's only with trolls.

You saying you're a troll?

You mean you don't know who I am?

Regardless, I already said I am not going to argue it more with you.
I don't care what anybody else thinks should be the reason why I play my games.

I'll take that as a victory.

And no. I can't say I've seen you before. Sorry.

A victory because you were arguing the wrong thing and not proving me wrong?

Riiiight.

Hey, whoever said what my goals were?
I just decided that it was to make you quit.


... Tails Bound?

Nope. Try again.

[DynaSuarez Wrecks]

In that case:

Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Difficulty is proportional to skill level.

Difficulty = D; Skill = -D.

D = -D

If difficulty = -10, then skill = 10.

If difficulty = 10, then skill = -10.

If difficulty = 0, then skill = 0.

If everyone is a novice at some point (skill = -10), then that games is hard (difficulty = 10) at that same point.

Using a mathematical formula and a logical statement, I have proven that a game could be considered universally hard. After all, it is unfair to tell a novice that a game is easy if you have been playing that game for years and are good at it. Remember that all values in the formula are variables - or "opinions".

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

you can save and if you die its not a single life. this thread is going nowhere so have fun arguing about pointless things and wasting your time trying to prove all this crap to someone else.

Which you've been doing for at least 6 pages.

and its not going anywhere because people dont listen to anyone but themselves. everyone has their opinion.

So that's what you're doing? Just listening to yourself and no one else's arguments? That would explain why you ignored my last response.

I am listening to other people. and im sorry if i missed it if i did i was probably posting another reply. or maybe i didnt get to it yet.

Well, shoot. I was so looking forward to your response because I'm kinda confused with what you said.

oh well, i dont want to sit here and waste my time arguing about something that really doesnt matter to me. wow lives in a video game, shouldnt we just be happy with being able to play a game and not worry about it being hard or easy unless we are looking for a challenge or just something to play? sure lives are a good thing to have but you should just enjoy your games.

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Armored Cavalry

In that case:

Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Difficulty is proportional to skill level.

Difficulty = D; Skill = -D.

D = -D

If difficulty = -10, then skill = 10.

If difficulty = 10, then skill = -10.

If difficulty = 0, then skill = 0.

If everyone is a novice at some point (skill = -10), then that games is hard (difficulty = 10) at that same point.

Using a mathematical formula and a logical statement, I have proven that a game could be considered universally hard. After all, it is unfair to tell a novice that a game is easy if you have been playing that game for years and are good at it. Remember that all values in the formula are variables - or "opinions".

Raven was looking for facts, not opinions. Didn't need math for that one.

[Lt Derp]

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Neo Tokoro

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

The intended purpose is what the developers had in mind. They didn't want everyone running around using the Konami code willy nilly to beat the game. They wanted everyone to try their damnedest to play the game without dieing to get the highest score.

And that's only with trolls.

You saying you're a troll?

You mean you don't know who I am?

Regardless, I already said I am not going to argue it more with you.
I don't care what anybody else thinks should be the reason why I play my games.

I'll take that as a victory.

And no. I can't say I've seen you before. Sorry.

A victory because you were arguing the wrong thing and not proving me wrong?

Riiiight.

Hey, whoever said what my goals were?
I just decided that it was to make you quit.


... Tails Bound?

Nope. Try again.

Eh, then I don't know him/her.

Obviously it's not a Geko or Thundurr. Scout has another account at the moment and Dauer is being an idiot...

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

and its not going anywhere because people dont listen to anyone but themselves. everyone has their opinion.

So that's what you're doing? Just listening to yourself and no one else's arguments? That would explain why you ignored my last response.

I am listening to other people. and im sorry if i missed it if i did i was probably posting another reply. or maybe i didnt get to it yet.

Well, shoot. I was so looking forward to your response because I'm kinda confused with what you said.

oh well, i dont want to sit here and waste my time arguing about something that really doesnt matter to me. wow lives in a video game, shouldnt we just be happy with being able to play a game and not worry about it being hard or easy unless we are looking for a challenge or just something to play? sure lives are a good thing to have but you should just enjoy your games.

Ummm...I take it you never intended to debate, huh?

[Raven Incognito]

Armored Cavalry

Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Stopped there.
You're obviously not going to prove that any game is hard.

[P e m o -The- P a n d a]

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

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Sharpii3 Munch3r

and its not going anywhere because people dont listen to anyone but themselves. everyone has their opinion.

So that's what you're doing? Just listening to yourself and no one else's arguments? That would explain why you ignored my last response.

I am listening to other people. and im sorry if i missed it if i did i was probably posting another reply. or maybe i didnt get to it yet.

Well, shoot. I was so looking forward to your response because I'm kinda confused with what you said.

oh well, i dont want to sit here and waste my time arguing about something that really doesnt matter to me. wow lives in a video game, shouldnt we just be happy with being able to play a game and not worry about it being hard or easy unless we are looking for a challenge or just something to play? sure lives are a good thing to have but you should just enjoy your games.

Ummm...I take it you never intended to debate, huh?

Not when I got here.... >.>

[Bubsy]

Games can be hard. You can change the difficulty. Easy, Normal, and Hard. Therefore games can be Hard, Easy and Normal.

Self made challenges however are different ways of playing the game, such as not using the map.

And most classic games can be considered harder because the penalty for losing was usually much more harsh, as in you could only lose so many times before you get a game over. And getting the high score is a very important aspect of arcade games as it is a measure at how well you played the game in spite of the difficulty.

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Neo Tokoro

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Neo Tokoro

Raven Incognito

Neo Tokoro

I'll take that as a victory.

And no. I can't say I've seen you before. Sorry.

A victory because you were arguing the wrong thing and not proving me wrong?

Riiiight.

Hey, whoever said what my goals were?
I just decided that it was to make you quit.


... Tails Bound?

Nope. Try again.

Eh, then I don't know him/her.

Obviously it's not a Geko or Thundurr. Scout has another account at the moment and Dauer is being an idiot...

Don't feel bad. Personally, I don't remember what Raven's main looks like. neutral

[Lt Derp]

The hardest game ever made was Super Man 64.

But see, the developers kinda cheated. The made it so god damn terrible, that nobody could play through it and have a soul anymore.

[Bubsy]

Raven Incognito

Armored Cavalry

Difficulty is a variable; so is skill level.

Stopped there.
You're obviously not going to prove that any game is hard.

Any game would be hard to anyone if they did not know how to play it.