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Sex is natural, I don't believe in sluts. We as a species love sex. But they will never take my word for it.
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I think people need to cool it.
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Sleeping around makes me sad, so I probably shouldn't do it anymore.

But if sleeping around makes you happy, then I'm all for it. Just don't hurt anyone in the process.
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If women want to keep lowering the bar and making it easier for men everywhere, go right ahead. A couple of you will carry my kids and wonder why I won't cohabitate or marry you. Respect is earned not given.
chainmailleman
If women want to keep lowering the bar and making it easier for men everywhere, go right ahead. A couple of you will carry my kids and wonder why I won't cohabitate or marry you. Respect is earned not given.

Like anybody would sleep with you. rofl
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chainmailleman
If women want to keep lowering the bar and making it easier for men everywhere, go right ahead. A couple of you will carry my kids and wonder why I won't cohabitate or marry you. Respect is earned not given.


I think you're a silly.
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chainmailleman
If women want to keep lowering the bar and making it easier for men everywhere, go right ahead. A couple of you will carry my kids and wonder why I won't cohabitate or marry you. Respect is earned not given.

Like anybody would sleep with you. rofl


Your mother seems to think differently.
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chainmailleman
If women want to keep lowering the bar and making it easier for men everywhere, go right ahead. A couple of you will carry my kids and wonder why I won't cohabitate or marry you. Respect is earned not given.

Like anybody would sleep with you. rofl


Your mother seems to think differently.

Like anybody would think you are witty. rofl
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No one should care honestly. I mean it would be like saying someone who loves chocolate should feel shame. That being said, if someone ends up having an unhealthy overindulgence in chocolate, getting to the point of eating dirty chocolate pieces they find off the floor or something then honestly.... Maybe you should rethink your life.
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    • Definition of slut

      noun
      derogatory


        1. a woman who has many casual sexual partners.
        2. dated a woman with low standards of cleanliness.


      If you have many casual sexual partners, by definition, you are a slut. If you don't like the definition, that's too bad because it isn't going to change simply because you don't like what it says. Either embrace it and continue to be happy with what you do and how you live your life or spend pointless bits of your time concerning yourself over what people think, how they view you, and defending yourself by accusing them of "shaming" you. No one is "shaming" you if you're doing what, by definition, a slut does.

      I personally don't give a single ********, but I will use the term for what it is in conversation.


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Actually, dude.
Eisefin


    • Definition of slut

      noun
      derogatory


        1. a woman who has many casual sexual partners.
        2. dated a woman with low standards of cleanliness.


      If you have many casual sexual partners, by definition, you are a slut. If you don't like the definition, that's too bad because it isn't going to change simply because you don't like what it says. Either embrace it and continue to be happy with what you do and how you live your life or spend pointless bits of your time concerning yourself over what people think, how they view you, and defending yourself by accusing them of "shaming" you. No one is "shaming" you if you're doing what, by definition, a slut does.



Actually. I'll redirect you to a full definition of what slut shaming is. Because I think you are worth it <3

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It’s not ‘slut-shaming’, it’s woman hating
By Meghan Murphy
We, in feminist land, like very much to encourage folks (particularly media-type folks, as they have a pretty significant role in framing discourse) to use correct language. Or, at very least, language that describes something real. In my last post, for example, I talked about the fact that many mainstream news sources reported on the murder of Kasandra Perkins without ever using the words ‘violence against women’ or even ‘domestic abuse’. Feminists know that naming the act and the perpetrator is important lest systemic inequity and the fact that we live in a sexist society disappear into the ether. It’s hard to address misogyny if we refuse to acknowledge that it exists and shapes our lives. Language matters.

As such, I would like to address a newfangled term that has mushroomed in popularity like an idiot weed due to funny fun-times Slutwalk and other ‘WE DO WHAT WE WANT ******** YEAH‘ feminismish happenings. That term is ‘slut-shaming’.

I implore you, friends of feminism, language and logic — Stop saying ‘slut-shaming’. It doesn’t mean anything. It’s misleading. And it makes you all sound ridiculous.

Now, before you start explaining to me why slut-shaming is actually a real thing, allow me to stop you. I understand what it is you are trying to get at. I myself have experienced this ‘shaming’ many a time. I know all too well about the double-standard that won’t die. The one that makes promiscuous women ‘sluts’ and promiscuous men into ‘pimps’. (Get it, boys? Being a ‘pimp’ is a good thing.) And you don’t even have to be ‘promiscuous’, whatever that means. It’s a thin line, for women, between love and hate. One minute you’re revered, you’re beautiful and precious and desirable andandand…. the next, you’re in the gutter. Women lose their sheen quickly. That’s what happens with commodities. You’re worth is in the hands of a fickle and punitive market.

Like you, I am sick as ******** of being treated like s**t while men brag and boast about their ‘conquests’, shaming the very women who trusted them for doing just that: trusting. Silly girl. Trust is for amateurs. You’ll get your comeuppance.

Yes. I agree that this is bullshit.

Being called a slut is painful. It sticks with you. I know.

Even now, as a bone fide adult, when I should really not have to deal with this crap, I still do. I still feel there’s an expectation that I play the chaste game. That, while men can pretty much act on any impulse, I will be judged for my behaviour. Masquerading as a classy lady is work. I do my best, but the end I usually just do what I want. What other people want obviously has less bearing on my choices than what I want. If that weren’t the case I’d likely have some kind of stable job, a better credit rating and a practical degree. Regardless of my stubborn hedonism, somewhere in the back of my mind there is always a tiny voice yelling “SLUT!” Residual trauma I’m guessing.

So please, spare me the lecture on the sexual double standard. I’ve lived it and been punished by it for half my life. By men and women alike.

Yet still I cringe every time I hear someone talking about ‘slut-shaming’. As such, I’ve compiled a list of reasons that describe why I feel this term is stupid and should go away forever:

1) There’s no such thing as a slut. Can we please stop pretending there is? ‘Slut’ is a word used to shame and silence and attack women. It is only a real thing to misogynists who use language to hurt women.

2) The solution to the sexual double standard that shames women for having casual sex, being promiscuous, enjoying sex, having female bodies, leaving the house, whatever, is not, as a very smart lady on Twitter put it recently, to “turn ‘sluts’ into a special-interest group“. You see, there is no such thing as a ‘slut’ or a ‘non-slut’. There are women. This whole ‘slut-pride’ thing and terms like ‘slut-shaming’ reinforce the very dichotomies feminism works to destroy. Us vs. them. Good girls vs. bad girls. Reinforcing the idea that some women are ‘sluts’ and that ‘sluttishness’ is attached to female sexuality (i.e. that whole — now ‘slut’ means a ‘woman who likes sex‘ crap) is not useful in terms of defining our own lives and sexualities. Like sex, don’t like sex, whatever. You aren’t a ‘slut’ either way. You’re a woman.

3) ERGO. ‘Slut-shaming’ isn’t about shaming ‘sluts’. It’s about misogyny. It’s about shutting women down. It’s about hating women. It’s about silencing. You can be labelled a ‘slut’ regardless of whether or not you have or like sex. Whether you’ve had one partner or fifty. It’s doesn’t matter. Just like women get called bitches regardless of their behaviour. Do we go around telling people not to ‘b***h-shame’ us? No, we say that men who call women bitches are sexist assholes who don’t like it when women speak (read: exist).

4) No matter how hard you try to take back ‘slut’, people will still use it to s**t on you. And it still won’t feel good. Just because you’ve painted ‘slut’ across your chest and proudly tromped down the street in fishnets doesn’t mean that assholes across the continent are going to stop using sexist language. A lot of people like to make comparisons around ‘taking back’ the word ‘slut’ to the n-word. But as we all know, racists still use this word in a racist way. Because they are racist and because racism is a thing that still exists in our world. You can pretend that, in the last year, ‘slut’ has been taken back to mean ‘awesome-fun-times-sexy-lady’, but it’s not true.

5) Half of the time people talk about being ‘slut-shamed’ or witnessing ‘slut-shaming’, it’s about clothes. Not sex. Someone thought you or your buddy was dressed ‘like a slut’. Your response was to say that, apparently, some ‘slut-shaming’ happened. But I’m confused now. Which is it? Is it that women who ‘like sex’ are being shamed? Or is it that women who wear push-up bras are being shamed? Because, for the record, wearing ‘slutty’ clothes has nothing to do with liking sex or not liking sex.

The point I’m trying to get across here is that this language is confusing and, rather than take apart virgin/whore, good girl/bad girl dichotomies and rather than address the root of the ‘slut’ language (which is misogyny), ‘slut-shaming’ skirts around these things.

Not only that but the supposed reclamation of this language has served to reverse these dichotomies in a decidedly unhelpful way. So now, the ‘good girl’ is no longer the prude. She is the girl who like to have tons of sex (with dudes). She’s liberated. This is awesome for patriarchy because it provides more soldiers in the ‘feminists are prudes who hate sex’ army. It means that women who don’t like sex (with men, in particular) don’t have valid opinions. Because they’re just maaaad. (Or they have their periods or something. Who really knows.) This phenomenon is also referred to as ‘compulsory sexuality’.

So Salon published a whole article the other day about a study that shows “the sexual double standard is alive and well and still influencing women’s everyday behavior.” Well, ******** duh. Any woman who exists in this world is well ******** aware that she’s always on the verge of being called a slut or a b***h or a c**t or a whore. Because that’s just not something that’s avoidable in our culture. If you turn down a date you might get called a b***h. If you have sex on a first date you might get called a slut. If you get in a fight with your boyfriend because he’s a dickbag, you might get called a whore. I’ve been called a slut for not having sex with someone I did not want to have sex with. So go figure. Either way, women lose. Your being called a b***h or a c**t or a slut or a whore has nothing to do with you actually being any of these things. Frustratingly, the article was entitled: “Study: “Slut-shaming” won’t go away”.

Regardless of the problematic headline, the study highlighted is a good study. The research was lead by Terri Conley who we like very much here at Feminist Current because she busts crap-o evolutionary psychology myths that try to justify sexist stereotypes about male and female behaviour à la ‘Men love sex with everybody all the time! Women hate sex and also want to make babies all the time!’ variety. In this new study, Backlash From the Bedroom, the researchers find that:

…under the right circumstances—that is, when the experience promises to be safe and pleasant—women are just as likely as men to engage in casual sex.
Key words: safe and pleasant. It’s more difficult for women to have casual sex, not because they, as a universal group, necessarily don’t desire it, but because women live in a world that is neither safe or particularly ‘pleasant.’ I’m not saying that if we lived in an equitable society free of sexism and the threat of violence all women would be having casual sex all the time, but I am saying that what we need to understand about men and women and sex is that universalizing based on solely on evolutionary psychology that ignores cultural and social contexts is dumb.

Conley and her colleagues also found that:

Women who accepted a casual sex offer were viewed as more promiscuous, less intelligent, less mentally healthy, less competent, and more risky than men who accepted the same offer,
And indeed! This is a true thing. Because of sexism. Calling women ‘sluts’ is about controlling women.

I mean, lets break this down. Say you engage in consensual sex with some dude. Afterwards, say he feels good and you feel bad. What the hell, right? It felt good at the time, yeah? Often, this man is the one that makes you feel bad. Often he does this on purpose. What the ********? Why should you feel bad about engaging in consensual sex with a person you were attracted to? Well, for one, because dudes can be ******** assholes. For two, patriarchy doesn’t want women to feel good about themselves. Feeling bad means boob jobs and Girls Gone Wild and faking orgasms. Feeling bad means trying to please men above all else. It means you’ll keep reaching for this thing you can never have. Because pleasing men will never give you real power.

Patriarchy thrives on women’s insecurities.

Hate yourself, patriarchy says. Do it. Do it because the man who sleeps with you and then turns around and makes you feel like a worthless, insignificant, scummy, piece of s**t subhuman because his ego needs that in order to survive — he hates you.

Have you ever had sex with someone to punish them? I haven’t. But I sure have been ******** as punishment.

This isn’t ‘slut-shaming’. ******** that noise. It’s woman hating.
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Slut is just a word
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Actually, dude.




    • Fine. Promiscuous. No matter how you try to voice it, it's how it's going to come out.


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