how many people actually BELIEVE in God,and trust in him?

[HelloNoora]

Envy Gilead

Im_the_real_Crystal

I believe in God and trust Him, heart and the answer on how to be saved is simple

ACTS 16 (KJV)
29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

This is a unique passage of the Bible because it is the only would where the question is asked "What must I dot to be saved?" And the answer is " Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ." That is the only requirement to be saved. xd

Now the man was baptized, but after his belief not before, baptism is only suppose to symbolize the washing away of the "old man" and the birth of the "new man". The Bible says that there is only one way to heaven, and that's belief. Going to church doesn't save you, baptism doesn't save you, only belief on Jesus Christ.

Isn't it amazing God loved everyone so much that he made salvation that easy? heart And for those that don't believe in God I feel so bad for you, because all you have to do is believe and then you'll go to heaven, that simple.

And I feel bad for you that you think Heaven exists.

People who believe in the afterlife and who have a story or narrative regarding life's meaning and which answers the ontological and eschatalogical questions of life are very happy. So do you feel bad that she is happy, then? You would have her do what instead of believe?

[OneWithDunamis]

fatal_GRACE

OneWithDunamis

fatal_GRACE

OneWithDunamis

fatal_GRACE

OneWithDunamis

That's what historical documents are for.

The bible is not a historical document.

Even though other historical documents back it? Even some atheists will say Jesus was real. Whether He was God or not is the debated topic.

It is true in that is is a document that existed historically, but most of the accounts of events were written hundreds of years after they 'occurred', and nothing in it is admissible proof of God.

So if I wrote a paper for history class it's automatically invalid because it's written much later than when it actually occurred?

The bible is not a history report, and it was not written as a 'historical account' so much as a collection of parables - not factual by definition - and what amounts to not much more than propaganda. It is hardly what you would call a reliably factual account.

Even with the internet, instant communication, and the like, most 'factual accounts' of events that happened moments ago are rarely completely accurate. Things don't look good for the bible.

Do you believe everything you read?

So what you're saying is there's no such thing as a credible source.

[OneWithDunamis]

Dark Bunny Lord

sakura-haruno77777

ok i no about a quarter of the earths people are religous, but how many of them actually know if they're going to Heaven when they die? i'm just so sick of people saying bad things about others that are strong Christians. scream its happened to me before also, when i was in 7th grade people made fun of me just because i brought my Bible to school. so anyway how many people on here know that they're saved? if you're not i can help, just send me a message or something. i can also answer any questions like if the rumors about 2012 r true (which there not) so yeah just send a message if u dont want to write in this forum.

Well technically speaking NO ONE "knows" they are being saved.
The bible in fact pretty much states that no one can even know that god exists, let alone that heaven or their future "salvation" as it's put is either. This is because the bible specifically states that a person must have faith, and faith by definition is believing something that you don't know to be true. That said if you must have faith in god you think he's likely real but you don't know for certain and therefor can't know whats going to happen to you when you die.

I, personally, have become agnostic after tiring of to many hypocrites within religions. Mind you I met some wonderful people, alas it only takes one or two to really drive that sense of hypocrisy into ones heart with a steak. There's just to many questions and not enough answers in religion for me to put full faith into it, now if it is real that's fantastic, I feel that if I live a good life then god, should he actually exist and be the all forgiving being he's preached to be, wouldn't damn someone to hell for simply being skeptical in a world where skepticism = basic human nature. If not, I still will have led a decent life and not wasted a bunch of time listening to fire and brimstone or condemning others.

So if the world is a violent one or is full of rape then God should forgive them all because that's the norm? In the Bible nations like this were entirely wiped out.

If it only takes a hypocrite or two to shake your faith, then the foundation of your faith is on hypocrites, not the belief itself.

[OneWithDunamis]

marshmallowcreampie

Okay, WAY more than a quarter of the world is religious... You're a Christian? Don't act like your religion is being soooo mocked and opressed. Christianity is still the most prominent religion in the world, and the US.

So if it is proven that 10% of the earth's population is homosexual, that alone gives them the right to mock and abuse heterosexuals? They are the minority, so why not give them full power to do as they wish to the masses?

[OneWithDunamis]

The_Broken_Angel_Of_Time

I remember in my 8th grade year I saw a male 7th grader with a Bible. He had a crush on me, and was upset I didn't date him because he carried around a Bible to class. When he asked me why, I told him that I don't date Bible thumpers.

Isn't that term usually defined as someone who rubs the Bible in your face? If all he did was bring it to class then you're extremely intolerant.

[OneWithDunamis]

Math145 Kane

The Midnight Caracana

xLady Tsukiyox

I used to believe in God. But now I don't. I don't see the point really, we all argue over what his will is but we really don't know to be honest what his will actually is.

And the Mayan 2012 is bullshit. Their calendar actually continues one.

My love problems are halfway solved. . .

That is because we're not SUPPOSED to know what God's will is XDDD

Wish me luck everyone. . . I'm still slightly out of it. ninja

God wishes us to be ignorant?

Clearly He does.

[OneWithDunamis]

richboy311

Ok..I believe that there's no reason to be so overly religious..but thats my opinion about the whole thing..people all over the world have some type of belief..i personally am one of the few realistic Christians left in this world..meaning that i hacked away all the nonsense of this religion..like the bible..i took all of the overly done parts of it and got it down to the nitty-gritty of the whole book..this is why christian nuts get on my nerves so much..but i let people do about with their own business until they go over the edge with it..which happens a lot

Picking and choosing what you believe doesn't make you a Christian. That's like saying you're a realistic heterosexual who sleeps with people of the same gender.

[OneWithDunamis]

pockybot

God is suppose to be full of love?

But all over the bible he asks for human sacrifice, orders mass slaughters of people, initiates war, floods, etc.

God is suppose to be the enemy of Satan...but in the story of Job, in effect God and the Devil tag team to ******** over every aspect of Job's life. In essence, Job Was An Inside Job.

Christ died for our sins? What sins? If someone has a good heart and means well, and isn't out being mean spirited or scheming against others...what "SIN" are we talking about?

Jesus didn't die for my sins. I like "peace loving, help the needy, hippy" Jesus; not the bastardized White Western version we've gotten since Aramaic times.

People say "Why don't you believe in God or The Bible, or Christ"?

My answer is not that I don't "believe in it", it could very well be all true.

I just 1) Don't need to follow something just because it may or may not exist and be true
2) I dont need invisible fantasy god men or some old mistranslated book to be a good person and live life to the fullest.

God is full of lots of things. Hate included. Which explains the wrath. And what kind of human sacrifice are you talking about? Abraham's son, who was never actually sacrificed? Or your own life for Him so that you'll go to heaven afterwards? Not too bad of a trade off.

God tested Job and then He gave him more than what he started out with.

Rejecting God is a sin.

Pick and choose your idol, but you can't say Jesus didn't die for people just because you don't agree to it.

Lastly if you don't believe in Him, it's because He doesn't want you to believe in Him. So there's not much you can do about it anyway.

[OneWithDunamis]

Methcalarjalope

Im_the_real_Crystal

I believe in God and trust Him, heart and the answer on how to be saved is simple

ACTS 16 (KJV)
29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

This is a unique passage of the Bible because it is the only would where the question is asked "What must I dot to be saved?" And the answer is " Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ." That is the only requirement to be saved. xd

Now the man was baptized, but after his belief not before, baptism is only suppose to symbolize the washing away of the "old man" and the birth of the "new man". The Bible says that there is only one way to heaven, and that's belief. Going to church doesn't save you, baptism doesn't save you, only belief on Jesus Christ.

Isn't it amazing God loved everyone so much that he made salvation that easy? heart And for those that don't believe in God I feel so bad for you, because all you have to do is believe and then you'll go to heaven, that simple.

Baptism is the rite of initiation that replaces circumcism for Christians. Baptism is important. But could you clarify from what, by this baptism were they saved?

Being baptized never saved you. That's just a rite. The same way marrying doesn't make two people love each other til death do they part.

[Irahatam]

I have faith in God to see to everything but, I don't believe we go to heaven.

[OneWithDunamis]

Envy Gilead

Im_the_real_Crystal

I believe in God and trust Him, heart and the answer on how to be saved is simple

ACTS 16 (KJV)
29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

This is a unique passage of the Bible because it is the only would where the question is asked "What must I dot to be saved?" And the answer is " Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ." That is the only requirement to be saved. xd

Now the man was baptized, but after his belief not before, baptism is only suppose to symbolize the washing away of the "old man" and the birth of the "new man". The Bible says that there is only one way to heaven, and that's belief. Going to church doesn't save you, baptism doesn't save you, only belief on Jesus Christ.

Isn't it amazing God loved everyone so much that he made salvation that easy? heart And for those that don't believe in God I feel so bad for you, because all you have to do is believe and then you'll go to heaven, that simple.

And I feel bad for you that you think Heaven exists.

If you die and find out Heaven does exist, they'll be the ones feeling bad for you. So the feeling's mutual.

[Project 429]

OneWithDunamis

Pick and choose your idol, but you can't say Jesus didn't die for people just because you don't agree to it.

I personally say he didn't die for me because there is a complete lack of historical evidence to suggest he did.

Nah, just kidding. I'm actually an agent of Satan, like all atheists. Hail Satan!

[OneWithDunamis]

Mista Miracle

Yesterday I got out of the shower to put out of a fire, slid across my hardwood floor, and blacked my eye and bloodied a knee on a doorframe

that was so damn unexpected and cool, blacking your own eye on an inanimate object is v. surprising, thanks god

Is that why half your face is metal now?

[OneWithDunamis]

Project 429

OneWithDunamis

Pick and choose your idol, but you can't say Jesus didn't die for people just because you don't agree to it.

I personally say he didn't die for me because there is a complete lack of historical evidence to suggest he did.

Nah, just kidding. I'm actually an agent of Satan, like all atheists. Hail Satan!

Everyone starts out as an agent of Satan, so that's not surprising.

And historical evidence can't show that Jesus died for people's sins. The one who has "legit" evidence would be too dead already to document it.

[Project 429]

OneWithDunamis

Project 429

OneWithDunamis

Pick and choose your idol, but you can't say Jesus didn't die for people just because you don't agree to it.

I personally say he didn't die for me because there is a complete lack of historical evidence to suggest he did.

Nah, just kidding. I'm actually an agent of Satan, like all atheists. Hail Satan!

Everyone starts out as an agent of Satan, so that's not surprising.

And historical evidence can't show that Jesus died for people's sins. The one who has "legit" evidence would be too dead already to document it.

The so called apostles didn't write anything down until years after his alleged death. That's a pretty big red flag right there. I mean, it's real easy to pull one over on a primitive society, but if someone did that today, they'd be laughed out of town.

...what?
Maybe we aren't so advanced after all.

Either way, the point is that once you reject one invisible sky king, you reject them all. We aren't so different, I just believe in one less god then you. Occam has a really useful razor he lets me borrow sometimes. He'd let you borrow it, you just have to be open to asking for it though.