[ Poll ] Horse Slaughter

What are your views on Horse Slaughter?

For		50.0%	[ 1 ]
Against		0.0%	[ 0 ]
Its cruel and inhumane		0.0%	[ 0 ]
I'm not sure		50.0%	[ 1 ]
Please tell me more, I'm interested in what you know.		0.0%	[ 0 ]

Total Votes: 2

[Luxxfere]

I'd like to take over this old topic, which has died.

Horse Slaughter OP,OT




Views, opinions, questions?

If you don't know anything about this, except what you have heard secondhand, or read from petition websites, I encourage you to ask questions before having an opinion.





I'm an Equine Industry/Business major from West Texas A&M. Many of my professors and advisers have been on/ are on Agricultural Boards that discuss these issues at great length and write papers for the legislature to review.

[Metalhead.Psycho]

faolan

[Metalhead.Psycho]

I'd like to take over this old topic, which has died.

Horse Slaughter OP,OT



Views, opinions, questions?

If you don't know anything about this, except what you have heard secondhand, or read from petition websites, I encourage you to ask questions before having an opinion.





I'm an Equine Industry/Business major from West Texas A&M. Many of my professors and advisers have been on/ are on Agricultural Boards that discuss these issues at great length and write papers for the legislature to review.

One of the reasons the topic died is because of the federal law banning horse slaughter that was passed. In other words, it's a moot point. But I'm not surprised that a Texas school would fail to incorporate modern legal practice into the curriculum.

We fail to support and recognize this because we know what its done to the thousands of horses that are now sent to slaughter OUTSIDE of the United States since the ban has been enacted.
Now you could very well say that is illegal for the transport of horses over the Canada and Mexico borders for the purpose of slaughter, but how pray tell, do you ever intend to be able to enforce that?

When the US slaughter plants that accepted horses closed down, this stopped the US being able to regulate the humane and ethical treatment of the horses being sent to slaughter. Veterinarians were required to be on hand when the plants were in operation. I'm sure many people would be surprised to find out how many of the horses sent there were receiving better treatment than they were getting in their previous "homes".

When sent to the slaughter houses in Mexico and Canada, there are no laws requiring the plants to use humane methods of ending the horses lives. This is where most people get pictures of abused, sick, dying, and other horrifying images of horses at slaughter.


So now, I ask of all of you who agree with the United States ban on horse slaughter, what do you propose we do with the horses now that fall into government hands? How do you propose they receive proper medical treatment, food, places to live?
How about the ones who are already sick, the ones who can't walk anymore, the ones already dying, but their owners don't have the money to call a vet and have them be put down? Or the owners don't care.
You're condemning these horses to a life of being mistreated because you couldn't bare the thought of their lives being ended to support the life of others.


I'd be willing to bet the reason TEXAS hasn't let this matter die is because 7 of the 11 major/certified horse slaughter houses were located in Texas.
& I was born and raised in CA. So this isn't just Texans who can't stomach the horror the uneducated masses have voted these horses into.

*EDIT*
Poll Results before I cleared them to add another option.


For 0.38461538461538 38.5% [ 35 ]
Against 0.23076923076923 23.1% [ 21 ]
Its cruel and inhumane 0.23076923076923 23.1% [ 21 ]
I'm not sure 0.15384615384615 15.4% [ 14 ]

[Mr Butthurt]

[Metalhead.Psycho]

I'd like to take over this old topic, which has died.

Horse Slaughter OP,OT



Views, opinions, questions?

Horses taste like happy.

Quote:

I'm an Equine Industry/Business major from West Texas A&M.

So they teach equine industry business at Texas A&M, are they?

Quote:

Many of my professors and advisers have been on/ are on Agricultural Boards that discuss these issues at great length and write papers for the legislature to review.

Wow. Look how impressed I am. I am impressed.

[Envy Gilead]

I'm pro-horse steak..
The s**t tastes good, and the only moral difference is that cows aren't held as ridable animals.

[Mr Butthurt]

Envy Gilead

I'm pro-horse steak..
The s**t tastes good, and the only moral difference is that cows aren't held as ridable animals.

Cows also don't often star in interspecies erotica clips.

[Envy Gilead]

Mr Butthurt

Envy Gilead

I'm pro-horse steak..
The s**t tastes good, and the only moral difference is that cows aren't held as ridable animals.

Cows also don't often star in interspecies erotica clips.

I'll file that under 'ridable animals'. Even if it's the horse doing the riding.

[Mr Butthurt]

Envy Gilead

Even if it's the horse doing the riding.

Most of the time.

[Luxxfere]

Envy Gilead

I'm pro-horse steak..
The s**t tastes good, and the only moral difference is that cows aren't held as ridable animals.

I'd agree with both.

While horses and cattle are livestock, we hold a greater attachment to horses because of friendly and trusting nature (for the most part, there are some NASTY mean horses out there, lol) and therefore we view them as pets rather than livestock.

[NoblesseOblige00]

We use horses in competitive racing and as haulage power on carts and buggies and the like (well not as much now to haul things anyway) things in which they are often killed or injured terribly, and sometimes it is kinder to kill a crippled or maimed animal than try and rehabilitate it without any guarantee of success or better quality of life for the animal, and they are used for meat and in glue production after they are slaughtered, its not like there is a culture of killing horse en masse for no purpose than the killing of an animal.


And lets be real here, its livestock you can ride and pull things with, its like a muscular and fast cow, not some super intelligent almost person that's pretty looking, its a farm animal that is used alive and can also be harvested for its meat and other uses. People over-emotionalize the idea of horses being killed and cloud rational thought.

[NoblesseOblige00]

Mr Butthurt

Envy Gilead

I'm pro-horse steak..
The s**t tastes good, and the only moral difference is that cows aren't held as ridable animals.

Cows also don't often star in interspecies erotica clips.

well not the ones you are watching, clearly.

[faolan]

[Metalhead.Psycho]

I'd like to take over this old topic, which has died.

Horse Slaughter OP,OT



Views, opinions, questions?

If you don't know anything about this, except what you have heard secondhand, or read from petition websites, I encourage you to ask questions before having an opinion.





I'm an Equine Industry/Business major from West Texas A&M. Many of my professors and advisers have been on/ are on Agricultural Boards that discuss these issues at great length and write papers for the legislature to review.

One of the reasons the topic died is because of the federal law banning horse slaughter that was passed. In other words, it's a moot point. But I'm not surprised that a Texas school would fail to incorporate modern legal practice into the curriculum.

[Luxxfere]

NoblesseOblige00

We use horses in competitive racing and as haulage power on carts and buggies and the like (well not as much now to haul things anyway) things in which they are often killed or injured terribly, and sometimes it is kinder to kill a crippled or maimed animal than try and rehabilitate it without any guarantee of success or better quality of life for the animal, and they are used for meat and in glue production after they are slaughtered, its not like there is a culture of killing horse en masse for no purpose than the killing of an animal.

The word euthanize probably works better here. But I agree. I believe it mostly comes down to the point that the general masses are uneducated about such matters.

NoblesseOblige00

People over-emotionalize the idea of horses being killed and cloud rational thought.

Anthropomorphism. Giving human - like qualities and emotions to animals.

EXACTLY.

[We Could Be Heroes]

Mr Butthurt

Envy Gilead

I'm pro-horse steak..
The s**t tastes good, and the only moral difference is that cows aren't held as ridable animals.

Cows also don't often star in interspecies erotica clips.

Five me? <3

So, for the porn industries sake, we should treat horses well.

[[Castration Pop]]

Mr Butthurt

Envy Gilead

I'm pro-horse steak..
The s**t tastes good, and the only moral difference is that cows aren't held as ridable animals.

Cows also don't often star in interspecies erotica clips.

Which of course begs the question as to if it is more preferable for an individual to be hung like a bull or hung like a horse?

[Luxxfere]

faolan

[Metalhead.Psycho]

I'd like to take over this old topic, which has died.

Horse Slaughter OP,OT



Views, opinions, questions?

If you don't know anything about this, except what you have heard secondhand, or read from petition websites, I encourage you to ask questions before having an opinion.





I'm an Equine Industry/Business major from West Texas A&M. Many of my professors and advisers have been on/ are on Agricultural Boards that discuss these issues at great length and write papers for the legislature to review.

One of the reasons the topic died is because of the federal law banning horse slaughter that was passed. In other words, it's a moot point. But I'm not surprised that a Texas school would fail to incorporate modern legal practice into the curriculum.

We fail to support and recognize this because we know what its done to the thousands of horses that are now sent to slaughter OUTSIDE of the United States since the ban has been enacted.
Now you could very well say that is illegal for the transport of horses over the Canada and Mexico borders for the purpose of slaughter, but how pray tell, do you ever intend to be able to enforce that?

When the US slaughter plants that accepted horses closed down, this stopped the US being able to regulate the humane and ethical treatment of the horses being sent to slaughter. Veterinarians were required to be on hand when the plants were in operation. I'm sure many people would be surprised to find out how many of the horses sent there were receiving better treatment than they were getting in their previous "homes".

When sent to the slaughter houses in Mexico and Canada, there are no laws requiring the plants to use humane methods of ending the horses lives. This is where most people get pictures of abused, sick, dying, and other horrifying images of horses at slaughter.


So now, I ask of all of you who agree with the United States ban on horse slaughter, what do you propose we do with the horses now that fall into government hands? How do you propose they receive proper medical treatment, food, places to live?
How about the ones who are already sick, the ones who can't walk anymore, the ones already dying, but their owners don't have the money to call a vet and have them be put down? Or the owners don't care.
You're condemning these horses to a life of being mistreated because you couldn't bare the thought of their lives being ended to support the life of others.


I'd be willing to bet the reason TEXAS hasn't let this matter die is because 7 of the 11 major/certified horse slaughter houses were located in Texas.
& I was born and raised in CA. So this isn't just Texans who can't stomach the horror the uneducated masses have voted these horses into.

[Luxxfere]

bump.