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I believe in god because i can't figure out any other way all the things int he unvierse was first created. There has to be some sort of superpowerful being to do that. Then i believe god only has a few ways to like intervene in life.
What i don't believe in is all the CHurch stuff! i mean it is like a cult. I went to greek orthodox baptism today. It was an hour long of chanting and strange movements as the little kids cried while being dunked. What is up with that. ANd donating to a church and them saying it is for God. God doesn't need money so why donate. Also how can there be so many different type of christians when there is only one bible. Makes no sense at all. Christians are wierd. They don't need to try to convert people to follow their brainwashing ways. It is brainwashing.
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Heh, you may think he can hide from the eyes of the Lord, but you will burn in Hell like the rest of the atheists.

gonk i feel sorry for you. Atheists are just as much people as anyone.And i proud to call myself one, sorta. No i will not burn in hell because if there is a god he should be nice enough to judge people by what they have done in their life rather than whether they belive in him or not.


just because he SHOULD be nice to you doesn't mean he will or has to. I mean maybe christians are right and he really sends people to hell just for not believing that he exists. lol... better hope christians are wrong. lucky for them though, there's really no easy way to disprove god's existance.

Honestly, I want no part of a God that is so self centered and evil that he would send people to hell for thinking freely. Besides, hell sounds nice, intellectual discussions can actually happen there, and everyone says what they want. Frankly, if heaven is full of a bunch of homophobes and bible buffs, i'd prefer Hell. Too bad it's all made up. :/
Ok.
Here is my opinion.
Gods and Goddesses were created by humans because there were things they had no explination for.
Ex: weather, seasons, day, night, sun, moon, ect, ect...you get my point.
I personally do not believe in a god/goddess because science has been able to answer all my questions including a theory on where the first cell came from (way to complicated to really go into detail).
Im am not atheist though.
I am Shamanic and believe in things like the spirit and energy.
Some people would say that my theories contradict themselves but I have managed to sort it out for myself and thats all that matters.
I don't need anybodies approval.
That is all I really have to say.
Feel free to disagree.
I am always up for some good debating.
Drops of Acid
i enjoy buddhism as a lifestyle.
C:

i can still smoke pot.
and make out with chicks.
and not worry about going to hell.
So, I'm marrying you for being amazing.
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I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

I quote from Mr. Morten Monrad Pedersen:

"An Omnipotent God is a Logical Impossibility

A lot of religious people claim that their god is omnipotent (all-powerful), this however leads to a lot of problems, which have been pointed out by numerous people. One of these problems is the consequences of the simple but a bit naïve question: “Can God create a rock that he can’t lift?” If God can’t do this, then he isn’t omnipotent, and if he can, then he still isn’t omnipotent, because then there is something, that he can’t do – i.e. lift the rock.

This means that omnipotence is a logical impossibility, and therefore omnipotent gods are also logically impossible."

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I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

"Omniscience is Incompatible with Free Will

Some Gods are also supposed to be omniscient (all-knowing), and humans supposedly have a free will. But how can humans have a free will, if a god in advance knows what is going to happen? There can be no choice in any meaningful sense of the word, if there is only one possible outcome to each and every situation (that is the outcome that the god has foreseen).

This leads us to conclude that free will combined with omniscience is impossible, and if we want to keep omniscience and thereby have to kill off free will, what does that do to the concept of sin?"

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"Contradictions

Being a logical impossibility isn’t the only problem facing gods and the holy scriptures of the religions. One should for example think that an all-powerful god would be able to make sure that his holy scriptures were relatively error free.

However upon examination one finds that this isn’t the case. Internal contradictions run rampant, and descriptions of the universe tend to be downright silly. A good example of this is the Bible:

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In Exodus there are two very different versions of the Ten Commandments, and God is claiming that they are exactly the same (Exo 20:1-17 vs. Exo 34:1,12-26).
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According to Gen 2:18-19 God created man before the animals, but Gen 1:25-26 tells us that it was the other way around.
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The Earth is claimed to be flat (see http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm).
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Jesus is said to be born while Herod the Great was alive (Mat 2:1-2), and while Quirinius was governor of Syria (Luk 2:1-7). Unfortunately Qurinius became governor ten years after Herod died.

This list could be continued for a long time, and it makes it seem quite implausible that the Bible is the word of God or even divinely inspired.

Such problems aren’t confined to the Bible. The Quran for example states that Heaven was created before Earth, and that Earth was created before Heaven (http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/first.html) and Hindu scripture apparently claim that the bottom of the universe is filled with water (http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/planetarium/index.htm)."
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The Absurdity of Religion

Why is it that if I claim that the keyboard, I’m typing this on, regularly turns into green cheese from the planet Krypton, then everyone will call me insane, but if someone claims that the bread they are eating and the wine they are drinking are turning into the flesh and blood of a guy born of a virgin, who is his own father, and who rose from the dead 2000 years ago, then he’s called a Catholic and should be respected for his faith?

When an absurd belief is labelled religious, then it suddenly isn’t considered absurd any more. This seems pretty weird to me, and let’s face it, most religions are based on beliefs that really are silly. A typical example of this is the story of the Ten Commandments.

In this story God calls Moses to Mount Sinai to give him the divine will about human conduct. God then lets Moses walk up the mountain, down again and up once more, before giving him the Ten Commandments. Afterwards the tablets with the commandments are broken, and Moses must ascend the mountain yet again, to get a new copy. Now imagine yourself in Moses’ place. You have climbed three times to the top a tall mountain enshrouded in clouds and lightning to receive the divine guidance of the almighty God, and then it turns out that he can’t remember his own commandments and therefore makes up some completely new ones, while claiming that they are exactly the same. And to make matters worse the tenth commandment is “Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk” (Exo 23:19). That is the guidance that God in his infinite wisdom wants to give us? We can’t cook a goat in the milk of its mother?

Can anyone really look me in the eyes and with a straight face say that this story wouldn’t be considered plain silly, if it wasn’t a religious story? In my opinion it could have been taken straight out of a Monty Python sketch.

Of course being silly or absurd doesn't rule out existence, but it doesn't seem to be likely attributes of a being with infinite wisdom.
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TL;DR: GOD LOGICALLY CAN'T EXIST.
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I do not think all Atheists go to Hell.
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I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

I quote from Mr. Morten Monrad Pedersen:

"An Omnipotent God is a Logical Impossibility

A lot of religious people claim that their god is omnipotent (all-powerful), this however leads to a lot of problems, which have been pointed out by numerous people. One of these problems is the consequences of the simple but a bit naïve question: “Can God create a rock that he can’t lift?” If God can’t do this, then he isn’t omnipotent, and if he can, then he still isn’t omnipotent, because then there is something, that he can’t do – i.e. lift the rock.

This means that omnipotence is a logical impossibility, and therefore omnipotent gods are also logically impossible."

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If I were omnipotent, I'd create an ice cream sundae so big that I couldn't eat it in one sitting, then once I realized I wasn't omnipotent I'd get together with the devil and share it with him. heart


no you're wrong dude. if you were omnipotent then a man cannot even think about doing that one act. being omnipotent doesn't have a boundary dude. this is the reason why we are called humans because we think like this and thats how a God cannot be compared to any being. Just a thought. wink


i agree!
TheGossipStone
Shadowshine Revrel
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I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

I quote from Mr. Morten Monrad Pedersen:

"An Omnipotent God is a Logical Impossibility

A lot of religious people claim that their god is omnipotent (all-powerful), this however leads to a lot of problems, which have been pointed out by numerous people. One of these problems is the consequences of the simple but a bit naïve question: “Can God create a rock that he can’t lift?” If God can’t do this, then he isn’t omnipotent, and if he can, then he still isn’t omnipotent, because then there is something, that he can’t do – i.e. lift the rock.

This means that omnipotence is a logical impossibility, and therefore omnipotent gods are also logically impossible."


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If I were omnipotent, I'd create an ice cream sundae so big that I couldn't eat it in one sitting, then once I realized I wasn't omnipotent I'd get together with the devil and share it with him. heart
I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

I think I love you. <3

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3nodding When I suddenly ascend to godhood in the middle of this forum discussion, I'll be sure to give you a fair cut of the devil attendants and ice cream.
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marty75po
you know i think we as humans should spend our time doing better things than sucking up to a mystical being up in the sky. for example we could do something about the environment. we should also e nice to ppl. i know so many rude and just plain mean people who worship god. does that make sense?


yes it does, i guess. we as Christians are not "sucking up" to God.
God created the environment.
yes we should all be nice, although some people aren't as nice as others.please go easy on those who are rude.pray for them.they may be going through tough times and nobody knows whats going on.you never know...


Okay, one request rainbowlillipop or whatever your name is...stop preaching to everyone and maybe they'll stop being mean to you. Everyone has their own beliefs and most of the time, you preaching to them won't fix that. Just leave us all be and we'll be happy. I don't believe in god because of a lot of bad things that happened. Oh, and if people are going through a tough time, they shouldn't take it out on others because it may worsen their day. And that's just sickening.
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i enjoy buddhism as a lifestyle.
C:

i can still smoke pot.
and make out with chicks.
and not worry about going to hell.
So, I'm marrying you for being amazing.



i'm so going to do you after we get married.
Belive what you belive and drop it.

I don't give a s**t if your Athiest Christian or anything of the sort, all I know is that I'm sick and tired off all this s**t on Religion.

I'm Christian say what you want i really don't care. I mean s**t you guys grow up, it's really getting old.
Shadowshine Revrel
TheGossipStone
Shadowshine Revrel
TheGossipStone
I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

I quote from Mr. Morten Monrad Pedersen:

"An Omnipotent God is a Logical Impossibility

A lot of religious people claim that their god is omnipotent (all-powerful), this however leads to a lot of problems, which have been pointed out by numerous people. One of these problems is the consequences of the simple but a bit naïve question: “Can God create a rock that he can’t lift?” If God can’t do this, then he isn’t omnipotent, and if he can, then he still isn’t omnipotent, because then there is something, that he can’t do – i.e. lift the rock.

This means that omnipotence is a logical impossibility, and therefore omnipotent gods are also logically impossible."


<---------xBut the moment never comes...

If I were omnipotent, I'd create an ice cream sundae so big that I couldn't eat it in one sitting, then once I realized I wasn't omnipotent I'd get together with the devil and share it with him. heart
I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

I think I love you. <3

<---------xBut the moment never comes...

3nodding When I suddenly ascend to godhood in the middle of this forum discussion, I'll be sure to give you a fair cut of the devil attendants and ice cream.
I'll love you endlessly...x---------&

Thanks, babe. <3 Let's have premarital sex. :3
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Belive what you belive and drop it.

I don't give a s**t if your Athiest Christian Buddhist or anything of the sort, all I know is that I'm sick and tired off all this s**t on Religion.

I'm Christian say what you want i really don't care. I mean s**t you guys grow up, it's really getting old.


ahem.
buddhism is a lifestyle.
not a religion.
kthx.
marty75po
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marty75po
Concernedguy23
Heh, you may think he can hide from the eyes of the Lord, but you will burn in Hell like the rest of the atheists.

gonk i feel sorry for you. Atheists are just as much people as anyone.And i proud to call myself one, sorta. No i will not burn in hell because if there is a god he should be nice enough to judge people by what they have done in their life rather than whether they belive in him or not.


Romans 10:9 says: if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God rose him form the dead, you will be saved!
all you have to do is believe.


mmhmm ok. thatsnice. how come "god" does not save all the people tat starve and die. how come there is evil in our world then? if you can answer that with a good answer then i may just have to read the bible.



.. Good and Evil are not in a fixed positions since they themselves are based on opinion, experiences, and how we are raised. If you are raised to believe that a certain race is evil, you will more than likely believe that race is evil.

I was raised to believe that if you were bad, you were going to hell. I do not believe in God, yet far in the back of my mind... I still believe i am going to hell, but in my own defense i can say that i will not live my life any differently then if god did or did not exist... and that is really all that is important to me.

I have accepted to my mother the fact that if god is real, i am going to hell, but if he is not.. then i did not waste my time.

So in these short paragraphs i described how even if you see that 'people being starved' is considered an evil.. i believe that starving people just means more food for me if they died. So i just proved the fact that evil will remain in this world weither there is a god or not, for the fact that evil always changes sides...
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Belive what you belive and drop it.

I don't give a s**t if your Athiest Christian Buddhist or anything of the sort, all I know is that I'm sick and tired off all this s**t on Religion.

I'm Christian say what you want i really don't care. I mean s**t you guys grow up, it's really getting old.

Um, then, GTFO? sweatdrop

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