Free Speech: Netherlands might become de jure muslim state

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The only thing that can take away people rights and liberties is government. No religion has that power unless it is state sponsored.

Arguable, but what is democracy if not the will of the people? And what is religion if not control of the people?

You can be religious, and respect someone else's right to not be. And democracy is a lofty dream, I'm afraid. To be a truly free society you have to have safeguards against the tyranny of the majority.

You can also be religious, and murder those who speak out against your religion. The door swings both ways and it's just important to safeguard against the tyranny of the minority as the tyranny of the majority. Now, the door is swinging too hard in one direction. Sometimes ugly problems call for ugly solutions.

When you murder someone, it's then the state's job to prosecute the party responsible. It's called individual responsibility. You can't indict an entire religion or philosophy for the actions of the vocal minority.

Would you approve of the Ku Klux Klan being unbanned, then? I mean, you can't indict an entire religion or philosophy for the actions of the vocal minority, right?

Since when was the KKK banned?

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I always found you belligerent... wink

Maybe, but at least I am not a hateful belligerent.

Just a stupid one. By banning criticism of a religion, you create a Galileo scenario.

There's criticism and then there's bigotry. There's a difference, I suggest you learn it.

I hate the KKK, I hate them, but I'm not for infringing upon their right to free speech so long as all they do is punk out.

Then you allow them to harm the social fabric. Organizations like the KKK should be marginalized, silenced and then ignored. Now, I don't know what Mr. Netherlands Dude has said, but if it is actually hateful he should be prosecuted accordingly and then silenced. I firmly believe there are things you should not be allowed to think; hatred is one of them.

Tyranny over thought or speech is never acceptable. Nor progressive, for that matter.

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Just a stupid one. By banning criticism of a religion, you create a Galileo scenario.

There's criticism and then there's bigotry. There's a difference, I suggest you learn it.

I hate the KKK, I hate them, but I'm not for infringing upon their right to free speech so long as all they do is punk out.

Then you allow them to harm the social fabric. Organizations like the KKK should be marginalized, silenced and then ignored. Now, I don't know what Mr. Netherlands Dude has said, but if it is actually hateful he should be prosecuted accordingly and then silenced. I firmly believe there are things you should not be allowed to think; hatred is one of them.

Silenced by what means? Government enforcement?

Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

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Should the truth ever be prosecuted or silenced, even if it damages the social fabric?

Here is the summons with the included 'hate speech'. Judge for yourself.

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I hate the KKK, I hate them, but I'm not for infringing upon their right to free speech so long as all they do is punk out.

Then you allow them to harm the social fabric. Organizations like the KKK should be marginalized, silenced and then ignored. Now, I don't know what Mr. Netherlands Dude has said, but if it is actually hateful he should be prosecuted accordingly and then silenced. I firmly believe there are things you should not be allowed to think; hatred is one of them.

Silenced by what means? Government enforcement?

Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

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I hate the KKK, I hate them, but I'm not for infringing upon their right to free speech so long as all they do is punk out.

Then you allow them to harm the social fabric. Organizations like the KKK should be marginalized, silenced and then ignored. Now, I don't know what Mr. Netherlands Dude has said, but if it is actually hateful he should be prosecuted accordingly and then silenced. I firmly believe there are things you should not be allowed to think; hatred is one of them.

Silenced by what means? Government enforcement?

Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

Well, Islam clearly is a hate organization, like the KKK.

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Silenced by what means? Government enforcement?

Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

Well, Islam clearly is a hate organization, like the KKK.

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Silenced by what means? Government enforcement?

Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

Well, Islam clearly is a hate organization, like the KKK.

Lemme help you out there, Setar.



Also, no one ever banned thee KKK.

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Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

Well, Islam clearly is a hate organization, like the KKK.

The Qur'an, Sura 9:29-33

Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.

All Muslims subscribe to the Qur'an.

Therefore, all Muslims want to make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, etc.

Therefore, Islam is a hate group.

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I hate the KKK, I hate them, but I'm not for infringing upon their right to free speech so long as all they do is punk out.

Then you allow them to harm the social fabric. Organizations like the KKK should be marginalized, silenced and then ignored. Now, I don't know what Mr. Netherlands Dude has said, but if it is actually hateful he should be prosecuted accordingly and then silenced. I firmly believe there are things you should not be allowed to think; hatred is one of them.

Silenced by what means? Government enforcement?

Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

s**t, son, I forgot that by calling out bigots over their bigoted bullshit I also endorse what they are bigoted about. Yeah, makes total sense. NO, dumbass, I have never ******** endorsed the goddamn Koran, nor do I ever intend to.

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Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

Well, Islam clearly is a hate organization, like the KKK.

Lemme help you out there, Setar.



Also, no one ever banned thee KKK.

I bet he's going to bring up the Taliban or something...which is like saying that because the KKK roots its beliefs in Christianity Christianity itself is a hate organization.

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I hate the KKK, I hate them, but I'm not for infringing upon their right to free speech so long as all they do is punk out.

Then you allow them to harm the social fabric. Organizations like the KKK should be marginalized, silenced and then ignored. Now, I don't know what Mr. Netherlands Dude has said, but if it is actually hateful he should be prosecuted accordingly and then silenced. I firmly believe there are things you should not be allowed to think; hatred is one of them.

Silenced by what means? Government enforcement?

Yes, if need be. By public censure or some other means preferably.

Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

s**t, son, I forgot that by calling out bigots over their bigoted bullshit I also endorse what they are bigoted about. Yeah, makes total sense. NO, dumbass, I have never ******** endorsed the goddamn Koran, nor do I ever intend to.

But you do endorse banning silencing bigoted people. And since the Qur'an is bigoted, and all Muslims believe in the Qur'an, all Muslims are bigoted. Modus ponens FTW.

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Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

Well, Islam clearly is a hate organization, like the KKK.

Lemme help you out there, Setar.



Also, no one ever banned thee KKK.

I bet he's going to bring up the Taliban or something...which is like saying that because the KKK roots its beliefs in Christianity Christianity itself is a hate organization.

WRONG

You ******** retard.

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Do you support silencing all Muslims that claim the Qur'an, a very hateful document, is the Word of God? I mean, by endorsing the Qur'an, you endorse genocide, etc., etc. Should all people who subscribe to it be silenced?

I don't think she said or implied that anywhere, especially not with the reference to the KKK of all things.

Well, Islam clearly is a hate organization, like the KKK.

The Qur'an, Sura 9:29-33

Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.

All Muslims subscribe to the Qur'an.

Therefore, all Muslims want to make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, etc.

Therefore, Islam is a hate group.

I want to see context and interpretations, please. Quote mining is never acceptable.