Evolution: Fact Or Fiction

Whats your religion?

Atheist	39.3%	[ 1138 ]
Protestant	16.9%	[ 489 ]
Catholic	14.1%	[ 407 ]
Hindu	1.3%	[ 37 ]
Muslim	1.8%	[ 53 ]
Jew	2.3%	[ 67 ]
Buddhist	5.1%	[ 149 ]
Greek Orthodox	0.7%	[ 21 ]
Pagan	14.2%	[ 412 ]
Egyptian	4.2%	[ 122 ]
Total Votes:			[ 2895 ]

[Trorbes]

Progressive Creationism is a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? Especially human-centric, limited-development, interventionist Creationism like what you're suggesting is hardly progressive in the face of modern science.

[Lucky~9~Lives]

Minori Hime

Shaviv

Uhm, the way we're constructing the term, a Creationist is a person who believes that all life forms were created roughly six thousand years ago in exactly the forms they are in now. Except for the currently-extinct ones, which were alive back then.

So I don't see how a Creationist could possibly accept as valid any findings or theories of evolutionary biology, as the entirety of evo bio contradicts Creationist dogma in its entirety.

I believe in an Old Earth, Old Universe, natural selection, micro evolution, and that a God created and ordered the Universe specifically for humans to inhabit it and that he will intervene every so often to maintain such order when it is completely necessary.

Where would you put me, then?

Ding! Progressive Creationist. We have a winner.

Sounds more like Deism + benefits (the interventions).

[Vryko Lakas]

Trorbes

Progressive Creationism is a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? Especially human-centric, limited-development, interventionist Creationism like what you're suggesting is hardly progressive in the face of modern science.

It's "progressive" in that it's not a literal reading of Genesis, but interpreted so that the Creation happens gradually, or progressively.

Although now I'm wondering why Minori Hime doesn't subscribe to "macro-evolution."

[Elf Lord Chiewn]

Lucky~9~Lives

Minori Hime

Shaviv

Uhm, the way we're constructing the term, a Creationist is a person who believes that all life forms were created roughly six thousand years ago in exactly the forms they are in now. Except for the currently-extinct ones, which were alive back then.

So I don't see how a Creationist could possibly accept as valid any findings or theories of evolutionary biology, as the entirety of evo bio contradicts Creationist dogma in its entirety.

I believe in an Old Earth, Old Universe, natural selection, micro evolution, and that a God created and ordered the Universe specifically for humans to inhabit it and that he will intervene every so often to maintain such order when it is completely necessary.

Where would you put me, then?

Ding! Progressive Creationist. We have a winner.

Sounds more like Deism + benefits (the interventions).

Deism with benefits? Sounds like a strange not-so-personal relationship.

[Reniefuwa]

Shaviv

Uhm, the way we're constructing the term, a Creationist is a person who believes that all life forms were created roughly six thousand years ago in exactly the forms they are in now. Except for the currently-extinct ones, which were alive back then.

So I don't see how a Creationist could possibly accept as valid any findings or theories of evolutionary biology, as the entirety of evo bio contradicts Creationist dogma in its entirety.

So basically, you're saying that the only definition for Creationist you will even consider is that of young-Earth God-just-made-everything-dur retards, and anyone who believes anything that differs even slightly from that is something not Creationist? Convenient for you, very nice.

Btw, they can still believe in natural selection.

[Vasili Zaitsev]

Well evolution has been pretty much proven and creationism is impossible because two people cant just appear and make babies, eve would've died and we would all be brothers and sisters soooo... you do the math

[Okaami]

Bailey_bob

Queen of the tigers

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the bibles a story book, created from ppls imaginations.

bet you cant prove that.

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jesus did exsist but him n his 12 diciples were con artests

bet you cant prove that either.

if u wanna explain how nowa built an arche 3 times as long as england and 7 times as high as the empier state building go ahead but its all just a load of crap that was made up and the bible was only first writen 300 years ago so explain 2000 years

and i kinda did with the hold lepper story

can u proove that any of the bible is real?

if gods so real why doesnt he ever do anythin?

You think God never does anything? Ha! I've talked to him. I've seen angels. He's hugged me. He's lead me to many solutions before. And btw, you spelled ark wrong.

Also, (dont flame me for this) if people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

[deadmanjay]

Okaami

Also, (dont flame me for this) if people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

Yeah, that hasn't been dealt with before countless times. A common ancestor between the two does not mean that man evolved from gorillas or chimpanzees or monkeys. Learn about evolution and not the, my pastor told me to watch this show, would you please?

[e-Claire rc1]

Okaami

You think God never does anything? Ha! I've talked to him. I've seen angels. He's hugged me. He's lead me to many solutions before. And btw, you spelled ark wrong.

Did you know it's possible for your brain to do all of that without any external force?

Okaami

Also, (dont flame me for this) if people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

If you were born from your parents, how come you still have parents?

[St Patriotic Panther]

Blairnensha

Okaami

You think God never does anything? Ha! I've talked to him. I've seen angels. He's hugged me. He's lead me to many solutions before. And btw, you spelled ark wrong.

Did you know it's possible for your brain to do all of that without any external force?

Okaami

Also, (dont flame me for this) if people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

If you were born from your parents, how come you still have parents?

mmhm.
If you want something your brain will give it to you (in some cases).

Alot like how if you truly beleive you are sick, you may develop false symptoms.

[Lord Setar]

Okaami

You think God never does anything? Ha! I've talked to him. I've seen angels. He's hugged me.

Both of which are personal experiences that cannot be in any way verified and are subject to confirmation bias and the misinformation effect...

Okaami

He's lead me to many solutions before.

No, you did that yourself, you're just too much of a ninny to give credit where credit is due rather than attributing it to some maybe-existing bearded old man in the sky.

Okaami

Also, (dont flame me for this) if people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

Humans did not evolve from apes, humans are apes, as are chimpanzees and gorillas. We've simply branched off in a different directions.

[e-Claire rc1]

Lord Setar

Okaami

You think God never does anything? Ha! I've talked to him. I've seen angels. He's hugged me.

Both of which are personal experiences that cannot be in any way verified and are subject to confirmation bias and the misinformation effect...

Okaami

He's lead me to many solutions before.

No, you did that yourself, you're just too much of a ninny to give credit where credit is due rather than attributing it to some maybe-existing bearded old man in the sky.

Okaami

Also, (dont flame me for this) if people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

Humans did not evolve from apes, humans are apes, as are chimpanzees and gorillas. We've simply branched off in a different directions.

You're ignoring the possibility of the Santa Claus effect - it could be that a parent or other authority figure is responsible but attributes the phenomenon to a supernatural entity, and the doctrine is stronger than her critical reasoning skills.

[Elf Lord Chiewn]

Blairnensha

Lord Setar

Okaami

You think God never does anything? Ha! I've talked to him. I've seen angels. He's hugged me.

Both of which are personal experiences that cannot be in any way verified and are subject to confirmation bias and the misinformation effect...

Okaami

He's lead me to many solutions before.

No, you did that yourself, you're just too much of a ninny to give credit where credit is due rather than attributing it to some maybe-existing bearded old man in the sky.

Okaami

Also, (dont flame me for this) if people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

Humans did not evolve from apes, humans are apes, as are chimpanzees and gorillas. We've simply branched off in a different directions.

You're ignoring the possibility of the Santa Claus effect - it could be that a parent or other authority figure is responsible but attributes the phenomenon to a supernatural entity, and the doctrine is stronger than her critical reasoning skills.

"It's God time!"

"No, dad, no!"