Evolution: Fact Or Fiction

Whats your religion?

Atheist	39.3%	[ 1138 ]
Protestant	16.9%	[ 489 ]
Catholic	14.1%	[ 407 ]
Hindu	1.3%	[ 37 ]
Muslim	1.8%	[ 53 ]
Jew	2.3%	[ 67 ]
Buddhist	5.1%	[ 149 ]
Greek Orthodox	0.7%	[ 21 ]
Pagan	14.2%	[ 412 ]
Egyptian	4.2%	[ 122 ]
Total Votes:			[ 2895 ]

[maybecca]

Macerina

ok,
1) you don't know much about the different religions. i'm baptistignorant and proud of it.

Fixed.

Macerina

2) evelution is false.

False.

Macerina

God created the world and everything that's on it...

Maybe. The evidence shows that if he did, he used evolution as his tool.

Macerina

including humans. we didn't evolve from monkeys.

Of course not! We're apes, not monkeys, and are far more closely related to the other modern apes than to monkeys.

Macerina

we are single-celled organisms

Learn to count, please.

Macerina

but monkeys aren't anywhere involved in our existance.

Well, we do have a common ancestor with them, of course, but it's a fair way back, and we're not descended from them.

[Jaaten Syric]

Macerina

ok,
1) you don't know much about the different religions.

Perhaps, though that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

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i'm baptist and proud of it.

That's nice. Completely irrelevant, but nice.

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2) evelution is false.

Perhaps it is. Evolution on the other hand most certainly is not.

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God created the world and everything that's on it...including humans.

And yet, he/she/it did so in a way that perfectly mimics plain 'ol natural phenomena. So either god set the world up to look just like evolution happened, or evolution happened. I wonder which way William of Occam would lean...

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we didn't evolve from monkeys.

Quite right. Too bad none of us ebul 'evolutionists' has ever claimed that.

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we are single-celled organisms

Really? Thanks. I've been trying to spread this message for years now. My daughter-cells will be so happy.

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but monkeys aren't anywhere involved in our existance.

Sure they never turn up at the monthly card parties, but they are still our distant relatives. Granted, they're once or twice removed and have a preclusion for flinging their feces, but hey; family is family (well...order in this case.)

[Choumaster]

i believe in evolution.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

Macerina

ok,
1) you don't know much about the different religions.

I'm betting you don't either.

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i'm baptist

I'm sorry.

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and proud of it.

Never mind

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2) evelution is false.

Prove it?

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God created the world and everything that's on it

From this I can conclude that God did NOT make anything other then Earth, therefor, God did not make the universe.

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...including humans. we didn't evolve from monkeys.

Duh!! We Evolved from a Common Ape Ancestor.

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we are single-celled organisms

Just because you have a paramecium for a brain, doesn't mean we are all single celled.

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but monkeys aren't anywhere involved in our existence.

Not anywhere Involved with our Existence? ever? I beg to Differ....I saw monkeys at the zoo once and they were Defiantly involved in my existence at that point.

[Sandokiri]

Macerina

ok,
1) you don't know much about the different religions.

Ten potch says I do.

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i'm baptist and proud of it.

Which denomination of Baptist?

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2) evelution is false.

Please show me a peer reviewed scientific journal in which the empirical disproof of Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection has occurred. Peer reviewed scientific journal. Ex Nihilo and other creationist publications don't count. wink

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God created the world and everything that's on it...including humans.

According to a literal interpretation of a proto-Kurdish document which eventually became Genesis 1, yes.

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we didn't evolve from monkeys.

Nor does the theory of evolution so teach. Humans and other simians had a common ancestor (ie, humans, apes, and monkeys are in the same "clade," as well as in the same taxonomic order.

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we are single-celled organisms but monkeys aren't anywhere involved in our existance.

We WERE single-celled organisms, about 3.7 billion years ago. And monkeys are another offshoot of our family tree... close cousins in the biological history of earth, but not directly involved in our existence per se. 3nodding

[Kvlt Grim Necromancer]

First of all, I'm Catholic. And I believe in intelligent design. Specifically, God intended all things to evolve from single celled organisms. After all, the amount of evidence supporting evolution is staggering. You cannot ignore it. And what created life? The soul? What differentiates me from you? For me, the only answer is God.
To me, science and religion complement eachother.
Evolution is what I believe to be God's tool.

[Rookherst[KOS]]

Bouncepogopogo...

First of all, I'm Catholic.

I'm sorry...

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And I believe in intelligent design.

For God's Sake WHY!!! Intelligent Design theory makes false claims and in essence to a theist, Denies the truth of "God's" Creation.

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Specifically, God intended all things to evolve from single celled organisms.

You do realize that ID says Evolution is false right?

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After all, the amount of evidence supporting evolution is staggering. You cannot ignore it.

So you don't belive in Intelligent Design....you belive in "Theistic Evolution"

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And what created life? The soul? What differentiates me from you? For me, the only answer is God.

....Please do not drag this topic Into Ontology, it is a very scary place I don't like to go.

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To me, science and religion complement eachother.
Evolution is what I believe to be God's tool.

Looky there!! A theist with an Ounce of Common Sence. Bravo Sir.

[Vryko Lakas]

Bouncepogopogo...

And I believe in intelligent design. Specifically, God intended all things to evolve from single celled organisms.

That's not "intelligent design," that's theistic evolution. ID says that some things in modern organisms could not have evolved, therefore they must have been designed.

[clockwiise]

Evolution Is Fact. Creation By God Or Any Other "Divine Being" Is False. But's That Just My Opinion

[Ihavenoarmz]

Vryko Lakas

Randomperson0

Single-celled organisms can also divide, but you don't see humans doing that.

We do on the cellular level.

Not to mention that dividing got pretty much nothing to do with evolution itself. We can't photosynthetize stuff, but that doesn't make our DNA replication mechanisms different from plants.

Randomperson0

Don't get me wrong, I believe in evolution, but I don't think that there is enough hard evidence to make the leap from theory to fact.

WHAT do you considere "hard evidence" anyway?

[The 7th Hero]

This has prolly been brought up 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times by now, so if it has been ignore it...

http://www.facts4u.com/OffSite_Stored_Pages/wyd_files/wyd01.htm

[Ihavenoarmz]

Bouncepogopogo...

First of all, I'm Catholic.

Eastern Orthodoxy is warmer and sparklier. But that's not exactly relevant.

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And I believe in intelligent design. Specifically, God intended all things to evolve from single celled organisms.

So you specifically do not believe in ID.

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After all, the amount of evidence supporting evolution is staggering. You cannot ignore it.

Sounds about right.

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And what created life?

Err... Chemical processes? Fecondation?
You do realize that "life" is an arbitrary concept that simply means "a bunch of chemical compounds that include DNA and replicate" and is subject to much debate already?

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The soul?

Bacteria got souls? Dogs got souls? We got souls?

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What differentiates me from you?

What differenciates this rock from that other one?

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For me, the only answer is God.

For me, it's Obi-Wan Kenobi.

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To me, science and religion complement eachother.

I'm planning on writing some kind of essay about how you must tear out religion from your mind to truly understand the world through science.

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Evolution is what I believe to be God's tool.

It's a tool in the same way that gravity is, then.

[The 7th Hero]

MyxineDamion]

You do realize that "life" is an arbitrary concept that simply means "a bunch of chemical compounds that include DNA and replicate" and is subject to much debate alr

cofyfvq1:0="MyxineDamion]

You do realize that "life" is an arbitrary concept that simply means "a bunch of chemical compounds that include DNA and replicate" and is subject to much debate already?

Heh... Life can be defined even more easily.

Life: Something that moves, makes energy, consumes energy, produces waste, and reproduces.

[Daumier]

xXx Juste Belmont xXx

MyxineDamion

You do realize that "life" is an arbitrary concept that simply means "a bunch of chemical compounds that include DNA and replicate" and is subject to much debate already?

Heh... Life can be defined even more easily.

Life: Something that moves, makes energy, consumes energy, produces waste, and reproduces.

That's a rather broad and overly simplistic definition of life. Under those criteria, fire, a chemical reaction, would be considered alive.

[Ihavenoarmz]

CrewWolf

xXx Juste Belmont xXx

MyxineDamion

You do realize that "life" is an arbitrary concept that simply means "a bunch of chemical compounds that include DNA and replicate" and is subject to much debate already?

Heh... Life can be defined even more easily.

Life: Something that moves, makes energy, consumes energy, produces waste, and reproduces.

That's a rather broad and overly simplistic definition of life. Under those criteria, fire, a chemical reaction, would be considered alive.

Which just proves how arbitrary the definition can be.