Evolution: Fact Or Fiction

Whats your religion?

Atheist	39.2%	[ 1134 ]
Protestant	16.9%	[ 489 ]
Catholic	14.0%	[ 406 ]
Hindu	1.3%	[ 37 ]
Muslim	1.8%	[ 53 ]
Jew	2.3%	[ 67 ]
Buddhist	5.2%	[ 149 ]
Greek Orthodox	0.7%	[ 21 ]
Pagan	14.3%	[ 412 ]
Egyptian	4.2%	[ 122 ]
Total Votes:			[ 2890 ]

[Population Tire]

You need an "Other" option on your poll. I'm a Deist.

And I'm also a strong advocate of Darwinism. I think whatever higher power, if there is one, set the rules down not just for Evolution, but for Science and Physics as well. However, oddly enough, I don't believe that this theoretical higher power set off the Big Bang. I think the Big Bang happend out of the rules that were set down.

[prepkiller 666]

Evolution.
See, what happens is over a great period of time, our environment changed. So, we adapted to meet the needs. First we needed to se through tall grasses and things like that, so we learned to walk on our rear legs. So on and so forth with other needs, and we are the result.


If God created humans, he is obviously not perfect. (insult to humans, not Christianity)

[Ihavenoarmz]

Nonkeyman2.0

tylara67

Nonkeyman2.0

tylara67

Nonkeyman2.0

tylara67

I think it's some sort of code... That or he started with Klingon and ran it through Babelfish a couple dozen times...

Sorry my english is poor, make fun of me if you will but grammer is the worst part of my english so sorry now i feel more stupid than ever.

Practice makes perfect. It should be relatively easy to find a free online spellchecker, and I know there are some free online grammar-checkers as well (though they're a tad harder to find).

Well for a second lauguge I am ok at this,also debating is fun even if it feels like i am losing. Just means i will figure these areas that I am not sure of study up, and next time someone trys your excuses I will have somethign to say. Then get shot down by their second response, and the process starts over till I have mastered debating on religion.

What's your native language? Mi español es quizás suficiente para debatir la teoría de evolución.

No it's Romanian,but even that now I am forgetting it sucks doesn't it I have been cramming my brain for 8 years now, and have pretty much suck at both langueges.

Inteleg foarte bine. Si ieu am probleme ca sa-m amintesc c** sa scriu in Romaneste.
Poate pentru-ca na-m invatat in veci. Am fost la scoala in Franta, dar cred ca vorbesc si mai bine Englez.

Oh yeah, mind re-explaining your bullshit again? Maybe I'll get it in Romanian.

[Ihavenoarmz]

phantom3.9

Evolution.
See, what happens is over a great period of time, our environment changed. So, we adapted to meet the needs. First we needed to se through tall grasses and things like that, so we learned to walk on our rear legs. So on and so forth with other needs, and we are the result.


If God created humans, he is obviously not perfect. (insult to humans, not Christianity)

Dude, we're certainly better off than... you know, the other things that "look like what happens when God cleans out his spare parts bin by running the contents through a garbage disposal with one working rotor."
(This quote is a courtesy of VGR's Silent Hill recap.)

[Buddha Sanger]

Evolution is a theory, nothing more and nothing less. That is speaking for human evolution of course. Evolution in single-celled organisms has been proven beyond doubt.

[Vryko Lakas]

Randomperson0

Evolution is a theory, nothing more and nothing less.

Wrong. Evolution is also an observed, documented fact.

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That is speaking for human evolution of course.

Why single out human evolution?

[Ihavenoarmz]

Randomperson0

Evolution in single-celled organisms has been proven beyond doubt.

Given that humans use the exact same genetic code, are made of roughly the same cells, and are (or were, until technology got really ******** great), submitted to the exact same rules, why wouldn't they evolve just like single-celled organisms?

[out of the shadows]

Evolution is fact, one example is locust.

[Buddha Sanger]

Vryko Lakas

Randomperson0

Evolution is a theory, nothing more and nothing less.

Wrong. Evolution is also an observed, documented fact.

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That is speaking for human evolution of course.

Why single out human evolution?

Because human evolution is the most highly debated and is vastly different from single celled organisms.

MyxineDamion

Randomperson0

Evolution in single-celled organisms has been proven beyond doubt.

Given that humans use the exact same genetic code, are made of roughly the same cells, and are (or were, until technology got really ******** great), submitted to the exact same rules, why wouldn't they evolve just like single-celled organisms?

Single-celled organisms can also divide, but you don't see humans doing that. Don't get me wrong, I believe in evolution, but I don't think that there is enough hard evidence to make the leap from theory to fact.

[Dearke]

First, I refuse to explain, yet again what exactly a scientific theory is, and why saying evolution is theory doesn't mean that it isn't proven. Also, if other animals evolve, then humans do to. We aren't special. There is proof of human evolution in fossils, however, due to the nature of fossilization, that evidence will always be fragmented. This is because the chances of a body fossilizing under natural conditions is very small, so just because there isn't a fossil of something, doesn't necessarily rule out its existance.

More recently there is also genetic evidence. Scientists can track allelle frequency and see how it has changed in different populations. For instance, the allele which causes cystic fibrosis is very common in people of european descent because even though having two copies of it is lethal, having one makes you less susceptible to diarrheal diseases which have plagued european populations for centuries. Another example is the frequency of the gene for sickle cell anemia in people of african descent. Having one copy of this gene makes you less suceptible to malaria, so once again, it became more frequent where malaria was common.

Granted this is only small scale evolution, but it is a change in allele frequencies in response to changes in environment over generations, which is the definition of evolution.

[Vryko Lakas]

Randomperson0

Because human evolution is the most highly debated...

No it isn't. Especially not as to whether humans evolved.

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...and is vastly different from single celled organisms.

You're right, we have far more physical evidence revealing the past evolution of humans than we do for monocellular life.

MyxineDamion

Single-celled organisms can also divide, but you don't see humans doing that.

We do on the cellular level.

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Don't get me wrong, I believe in evolution, but I don't think that there is enough hard evidence to make the leap from theory to fact.

This has been dealt with fifty thousand times in the thread already. Please read some of it before saying this.

[Westonian]

phantom3.9

Evolution.
See, what happens is over a great period of time, our environment changed. So, we adapted to meet the needs. First we needed to se through tall grasses and things like that, so we learned to walk on our rear legs. So on and so forth with other needs, and we are the result.


If God created humans, he is obviously not perfect. (insult to humans, not Christianity)

We didn't adapt to meet the needs of new environments. Random genetic mutuations worked their way into various genes creating slightly wider variety within a species. Then the environment changed, and the members of the species who were suddenly less competetive in the new environment died out. That's natural selection at work.

I'm fairly certain the word "learned" is misused, too.

[Oblivious Sage]

out of the shadows

Evolution is fact, one example is locust.

Locust??? neutral

First off, in English nouns generally need to be proper nouns or pronouns, be preceded by an article ("the" or "a/an" wink , or be plural. Your use of "locust" is none of these. You fail at "teh grammer".

Second, WTF are you talking about?

[Macerina]

ok,
1) you don't know much about the different religions. i'm baptist and proud of it.
2) evelution is false. God created the world and everything that's on it...including humans. we didn't evolve from monkeys. we are single-celled organisms but monkeys aren't anywhere involved in our existance.

[Vryko Lakas]

Macerina

2) evelution is false. God created the world and everything that's on it...including humans.

Statement 1 does not follow from Statement 2. This is not supposed to be a dichotomy. Furthermore, Statement 1 is wrong. Please see the rest of the thread so I don't have to dig through my Bookmarks and pull out fifteen links just to prove you wrong.
I can't even read the rest of what you wrote.