Evolution: Fact Or Fiction

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[Randy_style!]

I think that evolution has alot more evidance to it. Face it, there are alot of myths concerning creation. For example, Native Americans belived that we were created by a god out of clay. There are as many myths about this matter as there are cultures.]
Evolution is fact, your free to belive whatever you want though.

[Thy_Mushroom]

Joshua_Ritter

Thy_Mushroom

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Not to mention that if the water covered the entire earth, then where did it come from?

God sneezed ! And if you dont believe me then you dont have enough faith ( So your wrong because you dont believe me ! You non believing n00b !)

wow... you arent being scarastic, are you? eek

IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND GOD WE MUST REALIZE THAT WE CANT USE OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING !!!!!

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[Panthuraz]

Okay alot of people do not know this. The man that came up w/ the theory of evolution admitted to making it up for money, and became relgious before he died (they do not teach you that in school). 2. our DNA is more closely related to that of a Dog than some Ape. 3. no skeleton of any "inbetween" species has been found, they find incomplete bones and name them w/e they want.

[NoSuchCreature]

browndiamonds

Okay alot of people do not know this. The man that came up w/ the theory of evolution admitted to making it up for money, and became relgious before he died (they do not teach you that in school). 2. our DNA is more closely related to that of a Dog than some Ape. 3. no skeleton of any "inbetween" species has been found, they find incomplete bones and name them w/e they want.

1) Evidence for the first claim? I've heard this before and I seem to recall it being debunked as a sad little rumor.

2) Again, evidence? And when you're done with offtopic satisfaction of my curiousity, relevance?

3) Relevance as to why not finding something from a hypothesis damages the theory it uses as a given?

[Stxitxchxes]

Stxitxchxes (From another thread)

Here's a slightly different view that I espouse:

Okay, let's look at the creation story of Adam. Hashem made Adam in a state of maturity, yes? That is, when Adam was created, he was around the age of twenty or so, not in an infantile state.

If, at that time, Adam had registered with a secretary for Social Security, he would have told the secretary that he was one day old. Which would have been literally true, except that he was physically twenty years old.

I believe that science and scripture do not conflict. If science can prove it, it must be true, but that does not mean that it is what really happened.

As such: I also believe that like Adam, the world was created in a state of maturity. Humans and animals evolved, continents shifted around on tectonic plates, hell, maybe there was even a Big Bang. However, is it not possible that, admitting that Hashem made the world, he did not make it in a state of maturity, where the world, for all scientific and true intents was millions of years old, but in truthful actuality it was quite younger? (Note: I don't think the world is ~5700 years old, since the old Hebrew years wear measured differently than years are now)

And by the way, yes.

[Noogie]

Fluffy Little Octopus

browndiamonds

Okay alot of people do not know this. The man that came up w/ the theory of evolution admitted to making it up for money, and became relgious before he died (they do not teach you that in school). 2. our DNA is more closely related to that of a Dog than some Ape. 3. no skeleton of any "inbetween" species has been found, they find incomplete bones and name them w/e they want.

1) Evidence for the first claim? I've heard this before and I seem to recall it being debunked as a sad little rumor.

Creationist lie, mixed in with pure idiocy of the highest calibur.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CG/CG001.html

We have plenty of evolutionary links, I'd wager it's impossible to chronicle every little ******** change though, it takes a lot to just have what we already do. I mean, changes could be done in a single generation or a thousand years apart. It's not so simple that you can just get a single in between state, something which many Creationist idiots like to ignore.

[Akanishi Makoto]

Stxitxchxes (From another thread)

Here's a slightly different view that I espouse:

Okay, let's look at the creation story of Adam. Hashem made Adam in a state of maturity, yes? That is, when Adam was created, he was around the age of twenty or so, not in an infantile state.

If, at that time, Adam had registered with a secretary for Social Security, he would have told the secretary that he was one day old. Which would have been literally true, except that he was physically twenty years old.

I believe that science and scripture do not conflict. If science can prove it, it must be true, but that does not mean that it is what really happened.

As such: I also believe that like Adam, the world was created in a state of maturity. Humans and animals evolved, continents shifted around on tectonic plates, hell, maybe there was even a Big Bang. However, is it not possible that, admitting that Hashem made the world, he did not make it in a state of maturity, where the world, for all scientific and true intents was millions of years old, but in truthful actuality it was quite younger? (Note: I don't think the world is ~5700 years old, since the old Hebrew years wear measured differently than years are now)

That's something I"ve heard of referred to as the "Last Thursday" theory of Creation.

In essence, what you're saying is that God could've created the Universe however He wanted, in whatever fashion and at whatever point in time. This is a neat little was to explain away the Carbon dating on dinosaur bones or the mathematical explanations on how long the Sun has been burning.

This implies deception by God, because he willfully placed these things to decieve us into thinking that the Universe is older than it actually is, and if that's the case, God could just as well have created the Universe last Thursday, and just created everything in a state of "maturity". Hell, he could've created everything 5 minutes ago, and by this theory of Creation, there's no way to prove or disprove it, only ways to reason around it.

[A Soporific]

browndiamonds

Okay alot of people do not know this. The man that came up w/ the theory of evolution admitted to making it up for money, and became relgious before he died (they do not teach you that in school). 2. our DNA is more closely related to that of a Dog than some Ape. 3. no skeleton of any "inbetween" species has been found, they find incomplete bones and name them w/e they want.

1) I would definately like to see a link to this. To my knowledge, Charles Darwin was not in science for the money. I might buy this arguement against Lamark, but he didn't develop the modern theory of Evolution.

2) We are 98% similar DNA to Chimps. 95% similar to Dogs. 98% > 95%

3) We have the complete skeletons of four "Inbetween" species and the incomplete bones of several others.

I would strongly suggest that you pick up a scientific journal every once in a while.

[Axioma]

How would you make money with Evolution, anyway?

[Noogie]

Axioma

How would you make money with Evolution, anyway?

I dunno, I always thought Professor Oak looked a bit like Darwin, lose the beard and all.

[Professor Oak]

Noogie

I dunno, I always thought Professor Oak looked a bit like Darwin, lose the beard and all.

I resent that insinuation.

[Painted Britain Blue]

Axioma

How would you make money with Evolution, anyway?

Make it into a fizzy drink.
:3

[AllianceSJR]

Axioma

How would you make money with Evolution, anyway?

Well, Axi, when Mr. Dollar and Mrs. Dollar love each other very much, they make change.

And everyone knows that change is necessary for evolution.

[Noogie]

Professor Oak

Noogie

I dunno, I always thought Professor Oak looked a bit like Darwin, lose the beard and all.

I resent that insinuation.

Admit it! You know full well why suddenly there wasn't enough Pokémon for Ash! scream