Discution of God...need proof

[Vice Admiral Romeo Mike]

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

Highlord Smiley

I'm Christian?

You're claiming there to be signs of god all around us.
That's an insinuation of your belief in him.

There are all kinds of mystics and believers who do not proclaim Christianity.

The OP is asking for proof of god.
This poster stated there is proof all around us.
Insinuating a belief in god.
If you believe in god, you're a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim in my opinion.
Your definition obviously differs.
So again, MY OPINION.

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

[Tobias_London]

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

This. Also, Toby, the reason the Hebrew Bible was kept in the Xian Bible was for cultural reasons. Seriously. Take a ******** religion course or two, it'd help you out TREMENDOUSLY.

I know why it was kept.
It was an example.
Take your condescending bullshit elsewhere.
She's asking why Jesus appears in Jewish history.
Using this as an example of him existing outside of Christianity.
Judaism and Christianity nearly go hand in hand.
That's why he appears in Jewish history.
Maybe read the whole damn debate she and I were having before attacking blindly.

You did know what it was kept but asked me anyway? Is that a kind of disingenuos way to debate?

I don't get it.

Obviously...
The prophecy of Christ begins in the Old Testament..JEWISH HISTORY.
Tales of Jesus' father exist in the Old Testament...JEWISH HISTORY.
So of course Jesus is going to appear in Jewish history.
It was the root of Christianity.

[HelloNoora]

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

Amen to that.
Which is why we should do away with the Bible and just use common sense and not let an ancient book dictate what we should believe and how we should live our lives.

Just because you and I cannot read Hebrew, aramaic and Greek doesn't mean that someone cannot read it, my dear Tobias.

This. Also, Toby, the reason the Hebrew Bible was kept in the Xian Bible was for cultural reasons. Seriously. Take a ******** religion course or two, it'd help you out TREMENDOUSLY.

I know why it was kept.
It was an example.
Take your condescending bullshit elsewhere.
She's asking why Jesus appears in Jewish history.
Using this as an example of him existing outside of Christianity.
Judaism and Christianity nearly go hand in hand.
That's why he appears in Jewish history.
Maybe read the whole damn debate she and I were having before attacking blindly.

Such teeth! L2P, dude, L2P.

Oh, also, I'm pretty certain there would be Roman accounts of a Christ figure, since they viewed him as a revolutionary and all that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

Fun fun, do read.

And I can provide a link to refute it.
Now who's right in this matter?

I would have to say that one should go with the least biased source, the one with no agenda when there are more than one sources to be offered. I am not saying that No Beliefs hasn't any veracity. However I think they do discount information that they would think good enough for the Julio Claudius Roman family.

[Tobias_London]

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

There are all kinds of mystics and believers who do not proclaim Christianity.

The OP is asking for proof of god.
This poster stated there is proof all around us.
Insinuating a belief in god.
If you believe in god, you're a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim in my opinion.
Your definition obviously differs.
So again, MY OPINION.

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

Again, I'm talking about THE CHRISTIAN GOD.
As this thread is OBVIOUSLY dedicated to.
So OBVIOUSLY when I say GOD, I am referring to the CHRISTIAN GOD.
Silly me for thinking you people could assume this.

[HelloNoora]

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

This. Also, Toby, the reason the Hebrew Bible was kept in the Xian Bible was for cultural reasons. Seriously. Take a ******** religion course or two, it'd help you out TREMENDOUSLY.

I know why it was kept.
It was an example.
Take your condescending bullshit elsewhere.
She's asking why Jesus appears in Jewish history.
Using this as an example of him existing outside of Christianity.
Judaism and Christianity nearly go hand in hand.
That's why he appears in Jewish history.
Maybe read the whole damn debate she and I were having before attacking blindly.

You did know what it was kept but asked me anyway? Is that a kind of disingenuos way to debate?

I don't get it.

Obviously...
The prophecy of Christ begins in the Old Testament..JEWISH HISTORY.
Tales of Jesus' father exist in the Old Testament...JEWISH HISTORY.
So of course Jesus is going to appear in Jewish history.
It was the root of Christianity.

Bible records the numerous ways in which Jesus fulfilled old covenant prophecy. We accept them but they do not accept us. That is one reason we should be surprised that a Jewish historian records the troublesome rabbi who claimed he was YHVH and had crowds following him town to town.

[HelloNoora]

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

There are all kinds of mystics and believers who do not proclaim Christianity.

The OP is asking for proof of god.
This poster stated there is proof all around us.
Insinuating a belief in god.
If you believe in god, you're a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim in my opinion.
Your definition obviously differs.
So again, MY OPINION.

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

Again, I'm talking about THE CHRISTIAN GOD.
As this thread is OBVIOUSLY dedicated to.
So OBVIOUSLY when I say GOD, I am referring to the CHRISTIAN GOD.
Silly me for thinking you people could assume this.

Well, like you always say, assume makes an a** out of . . . etc. You frequently decry assumption making. Instead of assuming how about we just use friendly words to get a handle on our discussion material?

[Vice Admiral Romeo Mike]

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

There are all kinds of mystics and believers who do not proclaim Christianity.

The OP is asking for proof of god.
This poster stated there is proof all around us.
Insinuating a belief in god.
If you believe in god, you're a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim in my opinion.
Your definition obviously differs.
So again, MY OPINION.

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

Again, I'm talking about THE CHRISTIAN GOD.
As this thread is OBVIOUSLY dedicated to.
So OBVIOUSLY when I say GOD, I am referring to the CHRISTIAN GOD.
Silly me for thinking you people could assume this.

The Abrahamic God encompasses three faiths, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They all follow one god. One. Uno. Un. Eins. 한아. So jaja.

[Tobias_London]

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

You did know what it was kept but asked me anyway? Is that a kind of disingenuos way to debate?

I don't get it.

Obviously...
The prophecy of Christ begins in the Old Testament..JEWISH HISTORY.
Tales of Jesus' father exist in the Old Testament...JEWISH HISTORY.
So of course Jesus is going to appear in Jewish history.
It was the root of Christianity.

Bible records the numerous ways in which Jesus fulfilled old covenant prophecy. We accept them but they do not accept us. That is one reason we should be surprised that a Jewish historian records the troublesome rabbi who claimed he was YHVH and had crowds following him town to town.

Christians differ in their beliefs.
Some believe Jesus to be nothing more than a prophet.
Why can't some Jews believe him to be what he claimed?

[Tobias_London]

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

Again, I'm talking about THE CHRISTIAN GOD.
As this thread is OBVIOUSLY dedicated to.
So OBVIOUSLY when I say GOD, I am referring to the CHRISTIAN GOD.
Silly me for thinking you people could assume this.

The Abrahamic God encompasses three faiths, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They all follow one god. One. Uno. Un. Eins. 한아. So jaja.

So if you go to a Muslim and tell them they follow the Christian god, they'll agree with you?

[HelloNoora]

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

Highlord Smiley

Tobias_London

Highlord Smiley

the proof is all around you

your just to ignorant and self conscious to notice it

your just another emo f** that has lost all source of enjoyment and belief, who will die a bitter, lonely, person

Great Christian character you're showing there wink

I'm Christian?

You're claiming there to be signs of god all around us.
That's an insinuation of your belief in him.

There are all kinds of mystics and believers who do not proclaim Christianity.

The OP is asking for proof of god.
This poster stated there is proof all around us.
Insinuating a belief in god.
If you believe in god, you're a Christian in my opinion.
Your definition obviously differs.
So again, MY OPINION.

I believe that if someone comes around and states they believe in signs of God are the reasons people believe that w ought not to assume that person is a Christian.

[Westenblum]

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

Again, I'm talking about THE CHRISTIAN GOD.
As this thread is OBVIOUSLY dedicated to.
So OBVIOUSLY when I say GOD, I am referring to the CHRISTIAN GOD.
Silly me for thinking you people could assume this.

The Abrahamic God encompasses three faiths, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They all follow one god. One. Uno. Un. Eins. 한아. So jaja.

You'd think that much would be clear . . . did Tobias miss that lecture?

[Vice Admiral Romeo Mike]

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

Again, I'm talking about THE CHRISTIAN GOD.
As this thread is OBVIOUSLY dedicated to.
So OBVIOUSLY when I say GOD, I am referring to the CHRISTIAN GOD.
Silly me for thinking you people could assume this.

The Abrahamic God encompasses three faiths, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They all follow one god. One. Uno. Un. Eins. 한아. So jaja.

So if you go to a Muslim and tell them they follow the Christian god, they'll agree with you?

An educated Muslim would. Such a schism, however, could occur with anyone of the faith who is uneducated. Case en point, how many Xians think that Muslims follow a different god.

The undeniable truth of it is, they follow One god. It's all in the details that things get muddy.

[HelloNoora]

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Tobias_London

Vice Admiral Romeo Mike

Fixed. Also, God should be capitalized. Proper noun and all that.

This thread is obviously about the Christian god

HAHA. You are aware that all three faiths follow God, right? No? Well there you go. Tell mommy you learned somethin' new today, sport.

Again, I'm talking about THE CHRISTIAN GOD.
As this thread is OBVIOUSLY dedicated to.
So OBVIOUSLY when I say GOD, I am referring to the CHRISTIAN GOD.
Silly me for thinking you people could assume this.

The Abrahamic God encompasses three faiths, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They all follow one god. One. Uno. Un. Eins. 한아. So jaja.

So if you go to a Muslim and tell them they follow the Christian god, they'll agree with you?

They do know our link to Abraham, yes. T'is a tricky question. If you ask some Christians they will tell you that Allah is not "our God." So it would rather depend upon the level of fundamentalism and their general educational level.

However, I think you have introduced a red herring.

[HelloNoora]

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

You did know what it was kept but asked me anyway? Is that a kind of disingenuos way to debate?

I don't get it.

Obviously...
The prophecy of Christ begins in the Old Testament..JEWISH HISTORY.
Tales of Jesus' father exist in the Old Testament...JEWISH HISTORY.
So of course Jesus is going to appear in Jewish history.
It was the root of Christianity.

Bible records the numerous ways in which Jesus fulfilled old covenant prophecy. We accept them but they do not accept us. That is one reason we should be surprised that a Jewish historian records the troublesome rabbi who claimed he was YHVH and had crowds following him town to town.

Christians differ in their beliefs.
Some believe Jesus to be nothing more than a prophet.
Why can't some Jews believe him to be what he claimed?

There are indeed some strange offshoots from the Church since the protestant revolt. By far, the widest majority of Christians are Trinitarians and all believe that Jesus is Lord.

I think it is the Jehovah's Witness who think Jesus is the Archangel Michael who came as a herald or prophet. But in strict theological terms, JW are neo-Arians, not Christians.

But this is another red herring.

[Tobias_London]

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

Tobias_London

HelloNoora

I don't get it.

Obviously...
The prophecy of Christ begins in the Old Testament..JEWISH HISTORY.
Tales of Jesus' father exist in the Old Testament...JEWISH HISTORY.
So of course Jesus is going to appear in Jewish history.
It was the root of Christianity.

Bible records the numerous ways in which Jesus fulfilled old covenant prophecy. We accept them but they do not accept us. That is one reason we should be surprised that a Jewish historian records the troublesome rabbi who claimed he was YHVH and had crowds following him town to town.

Christians differ in their beliefs.
Some believe Jesus to be nothing more than a prophet.
Why can't some Jews believe him to be what he claimed?

There are indeed some strange offshoots from the Church since the protestant revolt. By far, the widest majority of Christians are Trinitarians and all believe that Jesus is Lord.

I think it is the Jehovah's Witness who think Jesus is the Archangel Michael who came as a herald or prophet. But in strict theological terms, JW are neo-Arians, not Christians.

But this is another red herring.

Red Herring, Blue Mackerel.
So what, it's a debate.
It's a completely valid point.