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achanceforgrace
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While I don't have a total plan worked out a couple of things that can be done are this:

1) Require all able bodied welfare recipients to actively seek jobs several times a week and submit proof.

2) Require that if they need education for better skills, to attend at least a trade school to get them. This can be done by getting grants because of your income level.

3) Once employed, instead of taking the worker back below the poverty level, keep them on the books with enough to survive. As they get pay raises, then start gradual deductions. I would say they can be weaned off in a couple of years. Plus, the worker would continue to provide proof of employment during this time. In case they would get the idea to quit work after this time and collect again, they would not be allowed to go back on welfare unless they had five years of steady work under their belt. By then, I think most would rather stay on the job instead of having to go through massive amounts of paperwork and approvals to collect again.


1) Already a requirement. Does being a mother count as an occupation? It used to. Single mothers have the hardest time finding work because of the lack of affordable day care options. Maybe up their payout so they can afford day care?

2) Is it that they have to work and go to school? Or one or the other? Also, while many welfare programs provide training in job finding skills, there is also a lot of evidence showing that they push over qualified individuals into s**t jobs. The mentality is that if you're on welfare, you can't be worth more than a McDonald's job. These kind of low security, low wage positions aren't getting anyone off of welfare.

3) Regarding the bolded: so if the company you work for shuts down in your first year you're just SOL? If you're suffering abuse and you quit you're just SOL?


1) There are daycare subsidies, but they can be improved so the woman can get a job. Being a mother may have been an occupation at one time, but when you are a single parent running a household, you need to get a paying job instead of relying totally on welfare.

2) Checks and balances need to be in place to put qualified people into jobs that match their skills. I think if they get a parttime job while going to school, that would be good, too, but doesn't need to be an absolute requirement. Although more money could be an incentive to do so.

3) Extenuating circumstances should be looked at. If a person loses their job because the company folds or another reason that is not their fault (i.e., layoffs), then no, they should not be penalized. The quitting part is to cover people that really don't want to work and would rather live off the system. While not the majority, there are those types of people out there.
 
     
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But in a free market, if i don't like one company i can go to another that i would like better. I cannot readily do that with the government unless i want to pick up and move to another country. Which I love this country I love America with all my heart. I just simply disagree with what the Government is proposing at this time.


hey sister; our healthcare system is NOT free market based. Go ahead and try to get a better insurance policy from outside your state if you don't believe me.
     
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Not all companies are Monopolies. Healthcare is not a monopoly.


Then explain why we can't shop out of state for health insurance policies?
 
     


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But in a free market, if i don't like one company i can go to another that i would like better. I cannot readily do that with the government unless i want to pick up and move to another country. Which I love this country I love America with all my heart. I just simply disagree with what the Government is proposing at this time.


hey sister; our healthcare system is NOT free market based. Go ahead and try to get a better insurance policy from outside your state if you don't believe me.


Thank you Gunsmith. Even though you can't read this you ******** b***h.
     
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But in a free market, if i don't like one company i can go to another that i would like better. I cannot readily do that with the government unless i want to pick up and move to another country. Which I love this country I love America with all my heart. I just simply disagree with what the Government is proposing at this time.


hey sister; our healthcare system is NOT free market based. Go ahead and try to get a better insurance policy from outside your state if you don't believe me.


Thank you Gunsmith. Even though you can't read this you ******** b***h.

Now she can.

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Matter Resolved: Healthcare bill passed by only 2 votes... 2 Republicans switched over and voted for the bill... meaning: Democrats can't keep their party together for s**t... & Republicans aren't as tight as they thought they were (ha! ironic).
     
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DON'T SERVE YOUR PARTY. SERVE YOUR CONSTITUENTS!


Matter Resolved: Healthcare bill passed by only 2 votes... 2 Republicans switched over and voted for the bill... meaning: Democrats can't keep their party together for s**t... & Republicans aren't as tight as they thought they were (ha! ironic).
Please don't misunderstand me. Just because i am opposed to this *PARTICULAR* bill does not mean that i am conservative or Libral. I am a person who takes things on a case by case basis.

I don't let which ever party i vote for, decide the politics that i support. I think for myself. And it just happens to be that there are several things about this bill that i disagree with and for those reasons i do not want this bill to pass. However, i am not opposed to reform. I just believe that reform should be achieved in a different way than they are doing now.
 
     
 
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The US needs full-on public healthcare, not the half-asseed attempt made by Obama.
i think before doign that ..perhaps they could make some small changes

make it so that insurance can be bought across state lines and make some other smaller changes to fix what we have in place before tryign to turn to a full universal health care run by the government.

there are so many ideas that could be implemented to fix things so they could be so much better and we haven't tried any of them.
     
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