circumcisions, ok or wrong? "its mutilation!" agree or not?

do you think circumcision is cruel and mutilation?

YES!	43.6%	[ 250 ]
NO!	56.4%	[ 324 ]
Total Votes:			[ 574 ]

[Mr Ransom 2]

!d!ot Amer!ca

I don't care what other people do.
I'm getting my sons circumcised though.
That's my belief.
I respect other people's beliefs, so they should respect mine.

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Might I suggest getting your clitoral hood cut off first, so you can see how it feels and how much you like having over 60% of your sexual pleasure taken away from you, all because it looks better.

[Leo X Astaroth]

Mr Ransom 2

!d!ot Amer!ca

I don't care what other people do.
I'm getting my sons circumcised though.
That's my belief.
I respect other people's beliefs, so they should respect mine.

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Might I suggest getting your clitoral hood cut off first, so you can see how it feels and how much you like having over 60% of your sexual pleasure taken away from you, all because it looks better.

First off, Female circumcision is diffrent from males, secondly you arent circumcised so how the hell do you know 60% of sexual pleasure is reduced? Seriously, since when did people get to decide how other people feel?

[A Mile of Black Ice]

Leo X Astaroth

Its like me saying chemotherapy is easy and painless, when infact since I have never gone through it I wouldnt know. All this crap about permanent damage and reduced sexual pleasure, Its just dumb, and most research done is biased, everyone chooses things through personal experience its human nature. Once you go out and ask random people on the street who are circumcised how they feel about it, then Ill take you seriously, I can just as easily refer to a thousand studies that say circumcision is right and it has many many benefits, but just like your sources they will be biased. Ive said it a million times, Your kids, your choice, other peoples kids, their choice, and no amount of foot stomping is gonna change that, be glad your not in the middle east, parents there dont even get a choice their babies are circumcised routinely due to islamic law.

All I have to say is this: you're ignoring physical and reputable scientific evidence to the contrary and are, by default, wrong.

It's science, bitches.

[Leo X Astaroth]

Red Ilsa

Leo X Astaroth

Its like me saying chemotherapy is easy and painless, when infact since I have never gone through it I wouldnt know. All this crap about permanent damage and reduced sexual pleasure, Its just dumb, and most research done is biased, everyone chooses things through personal experience its human nature. Once you go out and ask random people on the street who are circumcised how they feel about it, then Ill take you seriously, I can just as easily refer to a thousand studies that say circumcision is right and it has many many benefits, but just like your sources they will be biased. Ive said it a million times, Your kids, your choice, other peoples kids, their choice, and no amount of foot stomping is gonna change that, be glad your not in the middle east, parents there dont even get a choice their babies are circumcised routinely due to islamic law.

All I have to say is this: you're ignoring physical and reputable scientific evidence to the contrary and are, by default, wrong.

It's science, bitches.

No, There is no set facts that say circumcision is harmfull, its debated and as many doctors and researchers that say its harmfull theres also as many saying its not harmfull and actually benefical, and dont make me laugh, reputable? Nothing is reuptable when personal feelings come in to it, just like abortion.

[A Mile of Black Ice]

Leo X Astaroth

First off, Female circumcision is diffrent from males, secondly you arent circumcised so how the hell do you know 60% of sexual pleasure is reduced? Seriously, since when did people get to decide how other people feel?

No, not really. The clitoral hood and the foreskin are analogous. They serve very similar functions and start out as the same thing before the sex organs develop in utero.

People go around deciding how other people react using tried and true methods.

Again, science bitches.

[Mr Ransom 2]

Red Ilsa

Leo X Astaroth

Its like me saying chemotherapy is easy and painless, when infact since I have never gone through it I wouldnt know. All this crap about permanent damage and reduced sexual pleasure, Its just dumb, and most research done is biased, everyone chooses things through personal experience its human nature. Once you go out and ask random people on the street who are circumcised how they feel about it, then Ill take you seriously, I can just as easily refer to a thousand studies that say circumcision is right and it has many many benefits, but just like your sources they will be biased. Ive said it a million times, Your kids, your choice, other peoples kids, their choice, and no amount of foot stomping is gonna change that, be glad your not in the middle east, parents there dont even get a choice their babies are circumcised routinely due to islamic law.

All I have to say is this: you're ignoring physical and reputable scientific evidence to the contrary and are, by default, wrong.

It's science, bitches.

and also, the medical world DOES NOT recommend infant circumcision, in fact some recommend against it, and 4 large countries have made it illegal, its also highly discoruraged in Canada and the UK is even looking into the legality of it

Canadian Paediatric Society
http://www.cps.ca/english/statements/fn/fn96-01.htm
"Recommendation: Circumcision of newborns should not be routinely performed."

http://tinyurl.com/cy6bfc
"Circumcision is a 'non-therapeutic' procedure, which means it is not medically necessary."
"After reviewing the scientific evidence for and against circumcision, the CPS does not recommend routine circumcision for newborn boys. Many paediatricians no longer perform circumcisions."

Royal Australasian College of Physicians
http://tinyurl.com/ysyoxs
"After extensive review of the literature the Royal Australasian College of Physicians reaffirms that there is no medical indication for routine neonatal circumcision."
(those last nine words are in bold on their website, and almost all the men responsible for this statement will be circumcised themselves, as the male circumcision rate in Australia in 1950 was about 90%. "Routine" circumcision is now *banned* in public hospitals in Australia in all states except one.)

The AAP in the US does not recommend infant circumcision.

British Medical Association
http://tinyurl.com/6je7l3
"to circumcise for therapeutic reasons where medical research has shown other techniques to be at least as effective and less invasive would be unethical and inappropriate.


http://www.icgi.org/2009/08/australia-recommends-against-circumcision/

[Leo X Astaroth]

Mr Ransom 2

Red Ilsa

Leo X Astaroth

Its like me saying chemotherapy is easy and painless, when infact since I have never gone through it I wouldnt know. All this crap about permanent damage and reduced sexual pleasure, Its just dumb, and most research done is biased, everyone chooses things through personal experience its human nature. Once you go out and ask random people on the street who are circumcised how they feel about it, then Ill take you seriously, I can just as easily refer to a thousand studies that say circumcision is right and it has many many benefits, but just like your sources they will be biased. Ive said it a million times, Your kids, your choice, other peoples kids, their choice, and no amount of foot stomping is gonna change that, be glad your not in the middle east, parents there dont even get a choice their babies are circumcised routinely due to islamic law.

All I have to say is this: you're ignoring physical and reputable scientific evidence to the contrary and are, by default, wrong.

It's science, bitches.

and also, the medical world DOES NOT recommend infant circumcision, in fact some recommend against it, and 4 large countries have made it illegal, its also highly discoruraged in Canada and the UK is even looking into the legality of it

Canadian Paediatric Society
http://www.cps.ca/english/statements/fn/fn96-01.htm
"Recommendation: Circumcision of newborns should not be routinely performed."

http://tinyurl.com/cy6bfc
"Circumcision is a 'non-therapeutic' procedure, which means it is not medically necessary."
"After reviewing the scientific evidence for and against circumcision, the CPS does not recommend routine circumcision for newborn boys. Many paediatricians no longer perform circumcisions."

Royal Australasian College of Physicians
http://tinyurl.com/ysyoxs
"After extensive review of the literature the Royal Australasian College of Physicians reaffirms that there is no medical indication for routine neonatal circumcision."
(those last nine words are in bold on their website, and almost all the men responsible for this statement will be circumcised themselves, as the male circumcision rate in Australia in 1950 was about 90%. "Routine" circumcision is now *banned* in public hospitals in Australia in all states except one.)

The AAP in the US does not recommend infant circumcision.

British Medical Association
http://tinyurl.com/6je7l3
"to circumcise for therapeutic reasons where medical research has shown other techniques to be at least as effective and less invasive would be unethical and inappropriate.


http://www.icgi.org/2009/08/australia-recommends-against-circumcision/

No doctors dont go around saying "Get Circumcised its great!" but they dont go around saying " Its horrible dont do it!" either, its not reccomended but also not dis-credited, and stop listing biased studies, how many times do I have to say it, for as many people that say its bad, there is just as many who say it isnt.

[Tute Sweet]

Leo X Astaroth

All the uncut people say its wrong surprised what a shock /sarcasm stare

My husband is circumcised. He is against circumcision for non-medical reasons.
Because of the things he has told me about it, I am against circumcision for non-medical reasons.

And yes, it does greatly reduce sexual pleasure.
My husband had to be circumcised at 17 for medical reasons. He tells me that the difference between sex before he was cut and sex after he was cut, is like the difference between seeing in colour and seeing in black and white.

That's right; you will never feel the full extent of sexual pleasure, just because your parents preferred the look of a circumcised p***s.
Sucks to be you.

[Leo X Astaroth]

Red Ilsa

Leo X Astaroth

First off, Female circumcision is diffrent from males, secondly you arent circumcised so how the hell do you know 60% of sexual pleasure is reduced? Seriously, since when did people get to decide how other people feel?

No, not really. The clitoral hood and the foreskin are analogous. They serve very similar functions and start out as the same thing before the sex organs develop in utero.

People go around deciding how other people react using tried and true methods.

Again, science bitches.

If you cant possibly imagine how a circumcised p***s is diffrent from a circumcised v****a then you need to go back to sex ed.

[Mr Ransom 2]

Baised studies, what in the bloody hell are you talking about? those are major medical organizations

[Leo X Astaroth]

Tute Sweet

Leo X Astaroth

All the uncut people say its wrong surprised what a shock /sarcasm stare

My husband is circumcised. He is against circumcision for non-medical reasons.
Because of the things he has told me about it, I am against circumcision for non-medical reasons.

And yes, it does greatly reduce sexual pleasure.
My husband had to be circumcised at 17 for medical reasons. He tells me that the difference between sex before he was cut and sex after he was cut, is like the difference between seeing in colour and seeing in black and white.

That's right; you will never feel the full extent of sexual pleasure, just because your parents preferred the look of a circumcised p***s.
Sucks to be you.

Being circumcised at 17 is diffrent than having it done as an infant, And no it does not reduce sexual pleasure, trus tme I can garuntee that, and there is a huge diffrence from having your p***s circumcised at birth than doing it when your developing as a teenager.

[A Mile of Black Ice]

Leo X Astaroth

No doctors dont go around saying "Get Circumcised its great!" but they dont go around saying " Its horrible dont do it!" either, its not reccomended but also not dis-credited, and stop listing biased studies, how many times do I have to say it, for as many people that say its bad, there is just as many who say it isnt.

Please, for the love of reason, logic, and facts, go put on your tinfoil hat and join the Flat Earth Society. Arguing with you is like repeatedly smashing my head against a brick wall.

You are wrong. You are so wrong that you look like a fruitbat. You need to go back to your conspiracy theories.

[~LukaTheNeko~]

Now I'm actually curious about why you would circumsize your child.
Just to hear the other side of the story.
<3

[Leo X Astaroth]

Mr Ransom 2

Baised studies, what in the bloody hell are you talking about? those are major medical organizations

And? They arent the entire medical world. They are biased because circumcision has NOT been proved harmfull or beneficial, and most factions reccomend for it or against it from personal feelings.

[ScholarSixHeavens]

I disagree with any nonconsentual body modification- especially female circumcision but also male circumcision. If its done for religious reasons, the person undergoing it should be allowed to make that choice themselves. I won't argue with parents who insist on doing t, as they probably wouldn't listen, but I was circumcised at birth, and I've resented it all my life. I certainly won't do that to any children I have.