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do you think circumcision is cruel and mutilation?

YES! 0.43531468531469 43.5% [ 249 ]
NO! 0.56468531468531 56.5% [ 323 ]
Total Votes: 572
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Lady Tam Li Hua
Mr. Ransom, there's a pigeon pooing on your head.

[No, really, I've given up. I wish you great happiness and love.]


lol, you just now noticed that


and I have no ill will towards you either, so I guess I wish you the same, I can only hope that you decide to change your mind and respect your sons body
 
     
 
Mr Ransom 2
Lady Tam Li Hua
Mr. Ransom, there's a pigeon pooing on your head.

[No, really, I've given up. I wish you great happiness and love.]


lol, you just now noticed that


and I have no ill will towards you either, so I guess I wish you the same, I can only hope that you decide to change your mind and respect your sons body


Heh heh. Yeah, I didn't see it when I first got it; it took me a bit. XD

Meh, I haven't made a decision one way or the other, so I can't really change it; I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
     
All I ask is that you research it and take into consideration that your son is another person.
 
     
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Chitsa Black
Sensorium139
I don't want to send my child to any school , I feel they would have their skills neglected , they'd be indoctrinated, and I won't be damaging them, as public school damaged me.


And your bias against it will be indoctrination in and of itself. You had a bad experience so everyone must have a bad experience. You are setting any children you have up for poor social skills and insuring that they're as biased and ignorant of the public school system as you are based on your singular experience.


there's a lot of news that it's far from a 'singular' experience, people too dumb to succeed given passing grades so they don't 'feel' they're a failure, but not holding them back so that when they get into higher grades, they'll 'know' they're a failure. people too smart to follow the curriculum, learning on their own, but failing everything in actual school, ending up in remedial classes cause they're not learning like everyone else, exactly...the...same...wayyyy*snores* schools these days are like puppy mills, child in, wait 15 years, child out, there's no individual attention, so students that need particular attention end up a dull average, and these days, the dull average is dirt stupid with a few bits of wood, some grass, pebbles.

i've had some poor experiences with school myself, i know i can teach children better than they do...so i've got some thoughts of method rattling in my head, done some examination of current practice, and can give individual attention. i'm not against public school, and for some of the same reasons that people seem to be against homeschooling, socialisation. yes a child needs to socialise, yes, a child will end up an over sheltered creep without it. if socialisation is the only difference, then there may be a way to allow my kids to have recess and lunch with the other kids, and the others not know which is my kids homeroom. there's always activities that my kids would enjoy with others that don't require them to go to school, sports, art and music classes(that must be private cause the public schools cut them), summer camps, other group activities, all kinds of things.

homework, a child comes home from school, should be able to relax, homework for each class should not take over a half hour, an hour total for grades up to 6, then a free time/education mix. some classes should not have homework at all, or be replaced with home schooling for a few hours, and on the weekend. reading, writing, arithmetic, after i got out of school, grade ten dropout, spent a lot of time undoing the damage done, i started to learn again, real things.

true, it may be indoctrination against liking public school, but is liking public school necessary?
     
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I don't care what anyone says, if I have a son he's getting circumcised. That's my decision. Don't like it? Suck it.
 
     
 
Mr Ransom 2
All I ask is that you research it and take into consideration that your son is another person.


Something makes me think she's going to ignore this, as she doesn't feel her son would be another person...fairly certain she was one of the people that think children are property.
     
Sensorium139
Mr Ransom 2
All I ask is that you research it and take into consideration that your son is another person.


Something makes me think she's going to ignore this, as she doesn't feel her son would be another person...fairly certain she was one of the people that think children are property.


I don't remember ever saying that.
 
     
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Lady Tam Li Hua
Chitsa Black
As vindictive as this sounds, I hope to all the gods and goddesses who are listening that your kid despises you for violating his body and removing part of his p***s against his will. To claim 'he'll be happy' is so damn arrogant it deserves a vindictive comment.


Well, I guess it's a good thing I serve a loving, forgiving God then. wink

Our child will be happy because he will be loved and well-taken care of, whether or not we decide to circumcise. If we do, it will be because we believe it's in his best interest. If we don't, the same thing will apply.

I really don't think it's arrogant to say we plan on raising happy, healthy children, if we decide to have children at all. :/


A loving, forgiving god? Psh, please... if you're Christian your deity is far from loving or forgiving.

That, my dear, wasn't what you said. You said your husband is cut and is happy about it and your sons, if you have any, would be happy too. You weren't saying you were going to raise happy, healthy children, you were saying you were going to cut any sons you have and they will be happy about it, That IS arrogance, to assume that because your husband is happy about being violated as an infant any sons you may have will be too.
     
Lady Tam Li Hua
Mr. Ransom, there's a pigeon pooing on your head.

[No, really, I've given up. I wish you great happiness and love.]


Sure you have, you've stated this claim before and yet you continue, which means your word is nothing because you lied.
 
     
 
Lady Tam Li Hua
Mr Ransom 2
Lady Tam Li Hua
Mr. Ransom, there's a pigeon pooing on your head.

[No, really, I've given up. I wish you great happiness and love.]


lol, you just now noticed that


and I have no ill will towards you either, so I guess I wish you the same, I can only hope that you decide to change your mind and respect your sons body


Heh heh. Yeah, I didn't see it when I first got it; it took me a bit. XD

Meh, I haven't made a decision one way or the other, so I can't really change it; I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.


Can I call liar on you now? After all, you've stated before that you fully intend to circumcise any sons you have. Want me to find the post for you?
     
felderup
Chitsa Black
Sensorium139
I don't want to send my child to any school , I feel they would have their skills neglected , they'd be indoctrinated, and I won't be damaging them, as public school damaged me.


And your bias against it will be indoctrination in and of itself. You had a bad experience so everyone must have a bad experience. You are setting any children you have up for poor social skills and insuring that they're as biased and ignorant of the public school system as you are based on your singular experience.


there's a lot of news that it's far from a 'singular' experience, people too dumb to succeed given passing grades so they don't 'feel' they're a failure, but not holding them back so that when they get into higher grades, they'll 'know' they're a failure. people too smart to follow the curriculum, learning on their own, but failing everything in actual school, ending up in remedial classes cause they're not learning like everyone else, exactly...the...same...wayyyy*snores* schools these days are like puppy mills, child in, wait 15 years, child out, there's no individual attention, so students that need particular attention end up a dull average, and these days, the dull average is dirt stupid with a few bits of wood, some grass, pebbles.

i've had some poor experiences with school myself, i know i can teach children better than they do...so i've got some thoughts of method rattling in my head, done some examination of current practice, and can give individual attention. i'm not against public school, and for some of the same reasons that people seem to be against homeschooling, socialisation. yes a child needs to socialise, yes, a child will end up an over sheltered creep without it. if socialisation is the only difference, then there may be a way to allow my kids to have recess and lunch with the other kids, and the others not know which is my kids homeroom. there's always activities that my kids would enjoy with others that don't require them to go to school, sports, art and music classes(that must be private cause the public schools cut them), summer camps, other group activities, all kinds of things.

homework, a child comes home from school, should be able to relax, homework for each class should not take over a half hour, an hour total for grades up to 6, then a free time/education mix. some classes should not have homework at all, or be replaced with home schooling for a few hours, and on the weekend. reading, writing, arithmetic, after i got out of school, grade ten dropout, spent a lot of time undoing the damage done, i started to learn again, real things.

true, it may be indoctrination against liking public school, but is liking public school necessary?


Funny, the schools in my area haven't cut art and music classes and my kids don't have a s**t ton of homework to do every day. As for the kids being pushed through, blame Bush for that one since he was the one who came up with the No Child Left Behind Act. That isn't the SCHOOLS doing, that is a federally mandated law that they must follow or get into trouble.
 
     
 
Skydeki
I don't care what anyone says, if I have a son he's getting circumcised. That's my decision. Don't like it? Suck it.


Why? Why do you want to violate his body? Why is it that, despite the fact a parent is supposed to PROTECT their children, one of the very first things we do to our newborn sons is allow them to be hurt? How is that protecting our children? Let me guess, you believe all the lies about the intact p***s, right? Or is it because YOU like cut penises so you're going to force your sexual preferences on your kid as if you plan to be the one to have sex with him?
     
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that's just disturbing..of course they'd cry..of course it would hurt...and it's not like they had proper anesthesia during those ancient times...plus..others were of malpractice..

heh..wanna know my country's old way of doing it?..they didn't any blades..heh..they used a sharpened piece of bamboo
 
     
 
plus..isn't the process meant for sanitary purposes?..and..if the child were to be given the choice at an age when he'd know what it was..he'd definitely say no..how would you react if your parent told you "they're gonna cut your p***s and take some skin off,sweety"...
     
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plus..isn't the process meant for sanitary purposes?..and..if the child were to be given the choice at an age when he'd know what it was..he'd definitely say no..how would you react if your parent told you "they're gonna cut your p***s and take some skin off,sweety"...


This is why me and many others go against circumcision of infants, they don't get the choice, if they did they'd probably say no.

It's not done for sanitary reasons. Cleaning an intact (uncircumcised/non-circumcised) p***s, at least until the foreskin retracts (around 5-18 somewhere in that range) , it's like cleaning a finger. Cleaning an intact baby is much easier than a recently circumcised and healing baby, and it means less infection. Once it's retractable it only takes a second to pull the foreskin back, wash under it, and pull it back in place. I've seen both intact and circumcised men wash, it takes the same amount of time, and it's not any different, they're both clean.

Giving them the choice would mean letting them decide what they want, and if they want to remain intact, it is in their best interest.
 
     
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