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idea Are you going to read all 131 pages of this thread and continue arguing at the wall?
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Sensorium139 I don't get why you think you're going with the whole sheltering thing, I feel schools shelter kids more than I would. Home school=liberating, not sheltering. And you're wrong on my age gap in many ways, many, many , ways . *blinks* Riiight, because having ONLY your parent's opinion on things is liberating and not sheltering? Um, no. Sorry. In school the child is exposes to different cultures, different beliefs, different schools of thought. In home schooling this is not the case. My experiences with home schooled people have all been similar to Tam's experiences. They were very narrow-minded, socially inept, had little real life experience, and lacked the ability to think past the biases that they learned from their parents. They weren't liberated in any way, shape, or form. If anything they were more held back than anyone else I've ever met. |
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I'll take that as a "yes".. . . . stare
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XxXSinister WhispersXxX  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Thought I'd leave my opinion, since I've seen this thread has popped up about 3-4 times. I'm okay with circumsision. Perfectly okay with it. I don't care if you want your kid to not be circumcised, or do. I am going to have my child circumcised. But my entire male side of both my families have had one, and they've all been fine. Circumcision is like a normal thing around my family. We don't think of it as humane, for us, it's a part of life. Bye now. Appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy. The fact that you're just going to 'follow the rest of the pack' shows that you have given no real thought to it and are clueless about the actual risks involved. Have you personally examined the p***s of EVERY male in your family? I've actually talked to men who thought that ALL penises had skin tags, skin bridges, too tight penile skin, and curvature because they'd seen so many in locker rooms and such with similar things. Those things aren't normal but they are extremely common, and the majority of men with them think it's normal so they say they're fine when actually they're not. |
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Infinite Authority I'll take that as a "yes".. . . . stare Yeah, I don't know who put a bee in her bonnet either. Ah well. |
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Lady Tam Li Hua Chitsa Black Lady Tam Li Hua Sensorium139 Christians aren't supposed to be circumcised though wtf? Christians who get circumcised have to follow Jewish law, at least if we're going by Galatians 5 See here: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians 5&version=KJV (show your fiance this if you wish) . and if you need assistance in links Luminary, I could give you tons to help you , in case you do ever get pregnant with a boy. I'm sorry; was this in response to me or someone else? Regardless, yes, the Bible says they aren't to be circumcised for religious reasons. However, some Christians still want it done for personal, non-religious reasons, so they get it done. It's not really that big of a deal. [Yes, I know it is to you, but in the Real World, to most people, it really isn't.] If and when I ever become pregnant with a son [which, if I'm going to have to suffer with being pregnant, childbirth, and raising the little hellion, it better be a boy], I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. As it is right now, no one in my family or that I'm remotely close to is expecting a baby boy, so I don't really care. And, even if they were, I still wouldn't care; it's their kid, let 'em do what they want. You can prove the bold, right? If you want to travel around the world with me to meet all the guys I've ever talked to, then yes. smile Better yet, if you want to come over to my house and talk to my husband about it, that would be fine too. And by "the world", I literally mean several different countries: China, Singapore, Honduras, etc. Only you'll have to foot the bill; I can't afford such a trip right before the Holidays. XD Translation: NO, I can't, I just enjoy making baseless assumptions based on a select few individuals and ignore the thousands upon thousands in the US who are seeking foreskin restoration along with the millions worldwide who are intact prove my assumptions to be false. |
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Lady Tam Li Hua Chitsa Black If you actually think that NO MALE IS EVER AFFECTED then you're being deliberately ignorant and blind. Or are you going to say 'well, they don't matter' because they're not the majority? If that's the case then the same philosophy can be applied to a lot of things that are considered wrong, like rape. As logn as there's no physical damage it's okay, because, after all, not all rapes are violent. I never said that no male is ever affected. Rather, my indication was that the percent of guys who actually consider this a dead-serious issue probably equal about 1% of the American population [give or take a few percents]. Rape is a silly and unjust comparison IMHO, and nothing you or anyone else says will convince me that it's not. Prove the bold. I am sick of you making baseless claims. Now back your s**t up. What you think is not law sweets. One violation of the body is no better or worse than another. Hell, the comparison is coming form someone who has been raped twice, if anyone should think it was unjust it would be me, yet I think it's a fitting comparison. Just as not all males who are cut are forever traumatized by it not all rape victims are forever traumatized so the philosophy holds. As long as it's not something that is permanently damaging it is okay to do it. Lady Tam Li Hua Quote: You can prove the bold, right? Also, what deity died and made you supreme ruler of what people care about? Just because YOU don't care doesn't mean that most people don't care. Already responded to this, you silly silly woman. No, you made yet another baseless claim without any proof whatsoever. So, PROVE YOUR CLAIMS. Lady Tam Li Hua Quote: So we can remove parts of your fingers and you won't care, right? Like I said before, this is also a silly and far too over-dramatic comparison, IMHO. Circumcision is the equivalent of taking some skin off of said finger, not the entire finger itself. rolleyes You aren't removing bone, and the p***s itself...*sigh* Translation: If I say no then it would have to mean me rethinking my stance on circumcision, so instead I'll evade the question. Evading the question is the same as saying "No, you can't do that to me because I would care and it's not right" which in turn means that you are deliberately refusing to admit that you are wrong about people not caring and you refuse to accept that your stance is a flawed one. Lady Tam Li Hua Ya know what, I can't do this any more; you and everyone else -know- my arguments; I've typed them until my fingers have turned blue. You're -never- going to like or agree with my opinion, and I'm not inclined at this juncture to change it. I'm happy, my circumcised husband is happy, and if we have a baby boy, he'll be happy. That's it; that's all. There isn't any more. I just...I give up. As vindictive as this sounds, I hope to all the gods and goddesses who are listening that your kid despises you for violating his body and removing part of his p***s against his will. To claim 'he'll be happy' is so damn arrogant it deserves a vindictive comment. My ex-husband is happy about being circumcised. According to YOUR logic my sixteen year old should be happy about being cut, but he voiced displeasure about it before I ever commented on how I felt about RIC. Part of me hopes that you don't have ANY children, ever, because with arrogance like that there's no telling what kinds of things you'll do to your kid and claim he or she is happy about it. |
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Infinite Authority Just wanna bang on my drum all day! http://eurthisnthat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/energizer_bunny2008-med.jpg ^ Chitsa Black No kidding! rofl |
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I think that may have killed the beast.. . though it will be back stare
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Chitsa Black As vindictive as this sounds, I hope to all the gods and goddesses who are listening that your kid despises you for violating his body and removing part of his p***s against his will. To claim 'he'll be happy' is so damn arrogant it deserves a vindictive comment. Well, I guess it's a good thing I serve a loving, forgiving God then. wink Our child will be happy because he will be loved and well-taken care of, whether or not we decide to circumcise. If we do, it will be because we believe it's in his best interest. If we don't, the same thing will apply. I really don't think it's arrogant to say we plan on raising happy, healthy children, if we decide to have children at all. :/ |
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Infinite Authority I think that may have killed the beast.. . though it will be back stare Indeed, she will! eek |
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Quote: Like I said before, this is also a silly and far too over-dramatic comparison, IMHO. Circumcision is the equivalent of taking some skin off of said finger, not the entire finger itself. You aren't removing bone, and the p***s itself...*sigh* Ya know what, I can't do this any more; you and everyone else -know- my arguments; I've typed them until my fingers have turned blue. You're -never- going to like or agree with my opinion, and I'm not inclined at this juncture to change it. I'm happy, my circumcised husband is happy, and if we have a baby boy, he'll be happy. That's it; that's all. There isn't any more. I just...I give up. so, I can slice all the skin of my sons finger, right? no matter how painful and damaging that is, its perfectly ok and you don't know that, especially with far less men being circumcised, the number of men being unhappy is going up, I know I would be pissed, just because it would not be my parents right to cut things off of MY BODY, luckily I was born in the civilized country of England |
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Mr. Ransom, there's a pigeon pooing on your head.
[No, really, I've given up. I wish you great happiness and love.] |
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