circumcisions, ok or wrong? "its mutilation!" agree or not?

do you think circumcision is cruel and mutilation?

YES!	43.6%	[ 250 ]
NO!	56.4%	[ 324 ]
Total Votes:			[ 574 ]

[Spydr Skin]

I don't really care... it's not like I have a p***s. My boyfriend doesn't have a mutilated c**k, just a PA LOL.

[Leo X Astaroth]

Sensorium139

Leo X Astaroth

Hese not educating, he is persistantly forcing his view on someone, not stopping until they change their minds and he wins.

Oh and also, why do yuo think teachers arent allowed to whack kids.

Ransom can be very educational, he sent me some sites before, and none of them were actually biased. This may apply to New Zeland, but it's not biased, and has nice information. They have a nice page on foreskin care

and it's against the law for a teacher to smack a student with a ruler or anything.

A website is biased if its taking a side whether for or against circumcision.

[Leo X Astaroth]

felderup

Leo X Astaroth

Hence not educating, he is persistently forcing his view on someone, not stopping until they change their minds and he wins.

so, don't get angry at me because he's posting links to videos that you find offensive, report him, if the gaia staff thing you're being a nutbar, he won't get banned.

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Oh and also, why do yuo think teachers aren't allowed to whack kids.

because it's illegal to harm another person's child...but it's our assertion that doctors are harming babies, yet they're allowed to.

And my point is that if it was harmfull, it wouldnt be done. As it so stands it hasnt been proven harmfull and will most likely never be.

[felderup]

Spydr Skin

I don't really care... it's not like I have a p***s.

if you had a son, would you care? would it matter to you at all if the doctor did

to your child without permission? would you be all 'yeah, go ahead, he'll live a perfectly normal life with that'?

[Leo X Astaroth]

felderup

Spydr Skin

I don't really care... it's not like I have a p***s.

if you had a son, would you care? would it matter to you at all if the doctor did

to your child without permission? would you be all 'yeah, go ahead, he'll live a perfectly normal life with that'?

Im circumcised and Ive lived a life without any problems whatsoever regarding my p***s.

[Sensorium139]

Leo X Astaroth

And I could just as easily debunk all those blown up "risks" That your rabbling on about, and no, a 35 year old UNCIRCUMCISED man would not know more than, especially not if hese ignorant enough to shove his views down other peoples throats who do not want it at all. I think he has some serious control issues, its one thing to tell people your opinion and how you feel but its dead ignorant and selfish when you persistantly push your views on them in an effort to change their minds. In the end, Not your kids, and as said before, Mnid your own business, you wouldnt like people coming up to trying to tell you what to do with your baby.

Most risks are not blown up, I feel you're biased and not willing to listen as you are all "my way or the high way" about it. I do listen, I just know not to trust a study in Africa where men are given condoms when they're circumcised, where it's unfair to the uncircumcised men. Plus, I won't believe a study about adult men getting stds when they're the ones ******** around without condoms. I have common sense here, I know why they started circumcision. It was a way to prevent masturbation and promiscuity (this is also why they do female circumcision,unfortunately no one sees that about male) , there's truly no health benefits. They used to say masturbation causes blindness, you've likely masturbated (that's hard to deny for anyone, sorry ) , you're not blind right?

I'm not in other business, no one has to listen to me, this is a forum and this person was asking about opinions, if I disagree with you, I'm going to challenge you. You challenge anti-circumcision people , saying this is wrong makes you look like a hypocrite.

[Sensorium139]

Leo X Astaroth

Sensorium139

Leo X Astaroth

Hese not educating, he is persistantly forcing his view on someone, not stopping until they change their minds and he wins.

Oh and also, why do yuo think teachers arent allowed to whack kids.

Ransom can be very educational, he sent me some sites before, and none of them were actually biased. This may apply to New Zeland, but it's not biased, and has nice information. They have a nice page on foreskin care

and it's against the law for a teacher to smack a student with a ruler or anything.

A website is biased if its taking a side whether for or against circumcision.

It's not against it it or for it though D:. Did you read the PDF? It has information for parents why or why not, it's not biased at all.

[felderup]

Leo X Astaroth

I'm circumcised and Ive lived a life without any problems whatsoever regarding my p***s.

you were lucky.

[akuma27199]

Circumcision isnt just for religious believes or norm. It's also hygienic. You dont get that puss crap in your foreskin and u lower the chances of infections.

[Sensorium139]

felderup

Leo X Astaroth

I'm circumcised and Ive lived a life without any problems whatsoever regarding my p***s.

you were lucky.

Not to mention who is to say a circumcised p***s is complication free? Most complications are seen as normal neutral .

[Toddenham]

My brother was circumcised and he's never had any problems with it. Period.
I've even asked him about it (I know, weird). He laughs at me when I ask if he feels violated.
I don't see what the big deal is.

[Leo X Astaroth]

Sensorium139

Leo X Astaroth

And I could just as easily debunk all those blown up "risks" That your rabbling on about, and no, a 35 year old UNCIRCUMCISED man would not know more than, especially not if hese ignorant enough to shove his views down other peoples throats who do not want it at all. I think he has some serious control issues, its one thing to tell people your opinion and how you feel but its dead ignorant and selfish when you persistantly push your views on them in an effort to change their minds. In the end, Not your kids, and as said before, Mnid your own business, you wouldnt like people coming up to trying to tell you what to do with your baby.

Most risks are not blown up, I feel you're biased and not willing to listen as you are all "my way or the high way" about it. I do listen, I just know not to trust a study in Africa where men are given condoms when they're circumcised, where it's unfair to the uncircumcised men. Plus, I won't believe a study about adult men getting stds when they're the ones ******** around without condoms. I have common sense here, I know why they started circumcision. It was a way to prevent masturbation and promiscuity (this is also why they do female circumcision,unfortunately no one sees that about male) , there's truly no health benefits. They used to say masturbation causes blindness, you've likely masturbated (that's hard to deny for anyone, sorry ) , you're not blind right?

I'm not in other business, no one has to listen to me, this is a forum and this person was asking about opinions, if I disagree with you, I'm going to challenge you. You challenge anti-circumcision people , saying this is wrong makes you look like a hypocrite.

Im not biased, as I said I dont take either side, I dont think circumcision has any benefits apart from how it looks, but at the same time Im not going to beleive some guy going around saying parents are mutilating their kids, when I was circumcised at birth and have never once had any problem regarding, and also having met other people who feel the same way, Challanging and giving your opinion is way diffrent from telling people what to do, and persisiting on pushing your views on them over and over till they agree with you. You should say how you feel, but when the person has a view of their own that they do not want to change you shouldnt continue to push and push them again. And most risks ARE blown up, cirumcision complications are rare, if they werent it would never become a routine procedure.

[Sensorium139]

akuma27199

Circumcision isnt just for religious believes or norm. It's also hygienic. You dont get that puss crap in your foreskin and u lower the chances of infections.

No , just no.

Are you talking about Smegma? The white stuff? That's natrual lubrication, it's normal and healthy, it's supposed to be there. It's just skin cells, oil, etc.

Uncircumcised men live happy, healthy lives, the only reasons they every have any problems is because people are uninformed or misinformed.

BTW, I got an STD from a circumcised man, I refuse to believe that they're more hygienic and free of any sort of infections, at any rate. Especially if they don't use a condom.

[felderup]

akuma27199

Circumcision isn't just for religious believes or norm. It's also hygienic. You don't get that puss crap in your foreskin and u lower the chances of infections.

see. exactly what i said about random empty skulls popping in and saying stupid things.

the 'fact' that p***s' are cleaner after getting cut, is a fact that has been debunked as mere laziness on the behalf of the parents. the infections thing...also there's proof, that it's not correct, way more proof than is available to show it is.

[Leo X Astaroth]

felderup

Leo X Astaroth

I'm circumcised and Ive lived a life without any problems whatsoever regarding my p***s.

you were lucky.

I wasnt lucky, you will have a hard time finding circumcised people who have problems with their p***s, there are only a few rare people that do have problems, and its usually the fault of an incompetent doctor.