circumcisions, ok or wrong? "its mutilation!" agree or not?

do you think circumcision is cruel and mutilation?

YES!	43.6%	[ 250 ]
NO!	56.4%	[ 324 ]
Total Votes:			[ 574 ]

[the_lost_sheep]

Bahama_Momma

the_lost_sheep

Bahama_Momma

Katarra Bloodstone

So, for those people here saying abortion is murder, you'd completely agree with trying mothers who miscarried with manslaughter, right?

I don't want to get into an abortion debate but miscarriage isn't really a choice, abortion is...I'm still waiting for my ignored posts to be addressed -.-

*hugs* its okay ill go read em k

Oooh, no you don't have to, you agree with me on this matter.
It's Sensorium that's ignoring them ^^
She often does to avoid admitting being wrong.
But thank you smile

So ive noticed

[Sensorium139]

Bahama_Momma

Oooh, no you don't have to, you agree with me on this matter.
It's Sensorium that's ignoring them ^^
She often does to avoid admitting being wrong.
But thank you smile

I can admit to being wrong, but I don't feel I'm wrong, it's my opinion, and what I know from doctors I've talked to.

I fear if I presented any sources you'd not believe them, since you seem to be vehemently pro-circumcision, and the only sources I could present would be ignored. It happens every time when someone is vehemently pro-circumcision.

I read pro-circumcision sources, I understand them, but my opinion is my opinion, and some of them can be proven wrong by a doctor just by asking.

[the_lost_sheep]

Afgan Battle Donkey

Sensorium139

Afgan Battle Donkey

Right, So killing a baby is FAR better than giving it a chance to have a good life.
Christ, can you be any more selfish?

I don't care if you keep trying to dig into this further, but I can't leave it, that fetus had anencephaly. No chance at a life .

Besides that, I see you complaining about me in the super moms thread, and you make it sound like I'm heartless and I'd abort any pregnancy I ever had, absolutely not. I love pregnancy, babies, and children, I wouldn't just abort a pregnancy for no reason whatsoever.

If I were to get pregnant now, with my current boyfriend, I would definitely not abort it. I'm not heartless, if you think I am you have no idea.

I dont give a ******** if it had herpes.
You clearly stated you would have aborted under any circumstances.

And you are selfish, and there's absolutely no way around it.
You can't give it a good life or love it, then give it to someone who can, dont kill it.
I can SORT OF understand aborting it because of that sort of defect, but thats not why you did it.
You did it because you simply didnt want it, and didnt want anyone else to love it either.

Yes i saw her admit it as well...... I feel sorry if she gets pregnant cause that poor kids not even gonna have a chance...

[Sensorium139]

Afgan Battle Donkey

You clearly stated you would have aborted under any circumstances.

And you are selfish, and there's absolutely no way around it.
You can't give it a good life or love it, then give it to someone who can, dont kill it.
I can SORT OF understand aborting it because of that sort of defect, but thats not why you did it.
You did it because you simply didnt want it, and didnt want anyone else to love it either.

I was raped, I would aborted anyway if I was raped. I have the baby fever incase you've ever noticed, I want a baby, but I can't have one right now because my boyfriend lives in Canada. I absolutely love babies.

Quit being judgmental, you were never in my shoes.

[Inscriven]

zXap Toon

So you may as well carry the damn thing so you don't hate yourself.

YES! Because God knows the right thing is to force a woman to carry a baby to term that she does not want, and to pay tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills in delivering the kid; and some time down the line get a psychological ******** when they find out they weren't wanted to begin with.

All so pro-lifers can go to bed feeling self-righteous.

[Bahama_Momma]

Sensorium139

Bahama_Momma

Oooh, no you don't have to, you agree with me on this matter.
It's Sensorium that's ignoring them ^^
She often does to avoid admitting being wrong.
But thank you smile

I can admit to being wrong, but I don't feel I'm wrong, it's my opinion, and what I know from doctors I've talked to.

I fear if I presented any sources you'd not believe them, since you seem to be vehemently pro-circumcision, and the only sources I could present would be ignored. It happens every time when someone is vehemently pro-circumcision.

I read pro-circumcision sources, I understand them, but my opinion is my opinion, and some of them can be proven wrong by a doctor just by asking.

See, if you had sources rather than expecting me to just take your word for it, then I would take the time to look at it, consider it and respond. You also go by word of mouth from doctors, each doctor is different and will say differently since your doctors and my doctors are saying the exact opposite.

I'm not vehemently pro-circumcision, your are vehemently anit-circumcision.
I believe the parents have the right to decide what they feel is best for their child.
You do not.
You talk down parents that want to circumcise their child and try to appeal to the emotional side as well as calling someone who wants to have it done later in life because in their opinion, it looks better and feels cleaner, a dirty slob who will regret it when you know nothing about that person.
You assume, never assume.

[the_lost_sheep]

Sensorium139

Afgan Battle Donkey

You clearly stated you would have aborted under any circumstances.

And you are selfish, and there's absolutely no way around it.
You can't give it a good life or love it, then give it to someone who can, dont kill it.
I can SORT OF understand aborting it because of that sort of defect, but thats not why you did it.
You did it because you simply didnt want it, and didnt want anyone else to love it either.

I was raped, I would aborted anyway if I was raped. I have the baby fever incase you've ever noticed, I want a baby, but I can't have one right now because my boyfriend lives in Canada. I absolutely love babies.

Quit being judgmental, you were never in my shoes.

She wasnt Sensorium but i was..... Rape is not a excuse.... So stop using it.... I know plenty of women myself included who got pregnant from Rape and who kept their child and love it..... And you said earlier that you didnt want any children.... I shall go find the post

[the_lost_sheep]

Inscriven

zXap Toon

So you may as well carry the damn thing so you don't hate yourself.

YES! Because God knows the right thing is to force a woman to carry a baby to term that she does not want, and to pay tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills in delivering the kid; and some time down the line get a psychological ******** when they find out they weren't wanted to begin with.

All so pro-lifers can go to bed feeling self-righteous.

Since you will never experience it be quiet...

[LenaFoxx]

Chiyo Suzaku

Either way, sensitivity depends on what you're used to.

Totally agreed.
I had my accident (that I mentioned)
And after a few months it was back to normal if not great function.
And sex has been better for the most part but the feeling and sensation was something i got used to.

[Feminist Barbie]

Oh internet why do you bless the stupid with your powers?

Circumcision. The reasons to do it are old wives tales. Honestly you might as well put butter on a sun burn.

Abortion. It's a good thing.

The end, now shut up.

[Bahama_Momma]

LenaFoxx

Chiyo Suzaku

Either way, sensitivity depends on what you're used to.

Totally agreed.
I had my accident (that I mentioned)
And after a few months it was back to normal if not great function.
And sex has been better for the most part but the feeling and sensation was something i got used to.

Careful, they'll try and shove statistics down your throat and tell you it's not as good as before or better, that you just forgot what it was like.
That's what they did when my guy said he thought sex was better after the circumcision he had done at 14.

[the_lost_sheep]

Afgan Battle Donkey

Sensorium139

Afgan Battle Donkey

You clearly stated you would have aborted under any circumstances.

And you are selfish, and there's absolutely no way around it.
You can't give it a good life or love it, then give it to someone who can, dont kill it.
I can SORT OF understand aborting it because of that sort of defect, but thats not why you did it.
You did it because you simply didnt want it, and didnt want anyone else to love it either.

I was raped, I would aborted anyway if I was raped. I have the baby fever incase you've ever noticed, I want a baby, but I can't have one right now because my boyfriend lives in Canada. I absolutely love babies.

Quit being judgmental, you were never in my shoes.

So ******** what.
"OOOHH BOO HOO I WAS RAPED. WHERES THE NEAREST GYNO SO I CAN KILL ITS ONLY CHANCE OF SURVIVAL BECAUSE I"M SELFISH."

You're pitiful.
Rape doesnt excuse murder.
Two wrongs dont make a right.
Just because you cant love it, doesnt mean no one else will.

I wonder what would happen if she got raped again and got pregnant.... From what she says shed abort that baby to so her earlier statement that she will not have to abort is not exactly true

[LenaFoxx]

the_lost_sheep

LenaFoxx

Mr Ransom 2

Might I suggest getting your clitoral hood cut off first, so you can see how it feels and how much you like having over 60% of your sexual pleasure taken away from you, all because it looks better.

I'm all for circumcision.
And my Clitorial hood had had a chuck of it biten off sir when an ex had a seizure preforming oral on me and I work just fine.

Lena that totally made me say oww....not even kidding ..... I bet that hurt like hell

OH god did it!
I was 15 it was terrible!
I thought it would never heal.
My mom thought it was kinda funny.
I didn't let anyone down there for a good LONG while.
But it healed quite nicely.
I still have a small little slice in the corner where the hood connects to the rest of the area on the left hand side.
Some times it gets irritated (with over use) but then I just shower and put some vaseline on it and let it rest and the next day it's better.