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Retina display
A5x quad core processor
New camera
Voice Dictation
4G LTE
10 hours of battery life still! 9 hours on 4G!
It's 9.4mm thin, weighing 1.4lbs.

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We're talking $499 for 16GB! 32GB is $599 and 64GB for $699. Sorry, no 128GB yet.
If you want 4G it's $629, $729 and $829.


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I'd be interested to see how the claims of nine hour 4g hold up. Android phones can't manage decent 4g battery life yet because the technology is so Power hungry, so I'm leery on apple's claim.
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It's also interesting to note that even with the more powerful processor and the larger PPI, The battery life is still incredible!
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It's also interesting to note that even with the more powerful processor and the larger PPI, The battery life is still incredible!
Dubious, at best.

I'll believe it when I see Anand Lal Shimpi's benchmarks.

Edit: looks like that extra battery life is due to a battery double the size.
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Gah, Apple... Fix your servers!

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Edit: looks like that extra battery life is due to a battery double the size.


Thats where the extra .7mm comes from? 3nodding
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Specialist Nathan
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Gah, Apple... Fix your servers!

psychic stalker
Edit: looks like that extra battery life is due to a battery double the size.


Thats where the extra .7mm comes from? 3nodding


And the much stronger backlighting and better camera. All of these require space.
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And the much stronger backlighting and better camera. All of these require space.


And don't forget the bluetooth 4.0, the LTE antennae, and such

Well, My order is in! 16gb White on Verizon 4g!
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I've been thinking about it, and I find it interesting that they've dropped the series indicator, it's just "the iPad". No model numbers any longer, just "iPad". I think it's two fold; firstly it brings it in line with the rest of Apple's product nomenclature (we're not on the MBP7, for example), but secondly, it differentiates and defines them against the backdrop of their competitors.

If Samsung releases three tablets of varying configurations in a year, that's three device names they come out with, and a splintering of the public's awareness of Samsung's offerings. But if Apple releases one tablet a year, and it's always the iPad, what are consumers gonna opt for? The latest Galaxy Tab (of which they aren't sure the exact name of at any given moment) or just "the latest iPad"?

It's an interesting move, especially when their competitors seem to get hung up on appending new numbers and new buzzwords every time they release a device.
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I've been thinking about it, and I find it interesting that they've dropped the series indicator, it's just "the iPad". No model numbers any longer, just "iPad". I think it's two fold; firstly it brings it in line with the rest of Apple's product nomenclature (we're not on the MBP7, for example), but secondly, it differentiates and defines them against the backdrop of their competitors.

If Samsung releases three tablets of varying configurations in a year, that's three device names they come out with, and a splintering of the public's awareness of Samsung's offerings. But if Apple releases one tablet a year, and it's always the iPad, what are consumers gonna opt for? The latest Galaxy Tab (of which they aren't sure the exact name of at any given moment) or just "the latest iPad"?

It's an interesting move, especially when their competitors seem to get hung up on appending new numbers and new buzzwords every time they release a device.


As opposed to walking into a store and saying "Hi, give me the latest Samsung Galaxy please"

Now you can't even check the number on the box at a glance to see if it's the right iPad, and the problem will only get worse. Now I'll avoid talking about this further, because I'm REALLY anti-Apple. Anyone who wants to preach Apple to me is more than welcome, because I'd really love to hear why Apple products are superior. So far I haven't been convinced that they're anything more than just shinier and more expensive products with a more streamlined interface out of the box, as opposed to having to customize your own, which takes effort.
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I've been thinking about it, and I find it interesting that they've dropped the series indicator, it's just "the iPad". No model numbers any longer, just "iPad". I think it's two fold; firstly it brings it in line with the rest of Apple's product nomenclature (we're not on the MBP7, for example), but secondly, it differentiates and defines them against the backdrop of their competitors.

If Samsung releases three tablets of varying configurations in a year, that's three device names they come out with, and a splintering of the public's awareness of Samsung's offerings. But if Apple releases one tablet a year, and it's always the iPad, what are consumers gonna opt for? The latest Galaxy Tab (of which they aren't sure the exact name of at any given moment) or just "the latest iPad"?

It's an interesting move, especially when their competitors seem to get hung up on appending new numbers and new buzzwords every time they release a device.


As opposed to walking into a store and saying "Hi, give me the latest Samsung Galaxy please"

Now you can't even check the number on the box at a glance to see if it's the right iPad, and the problem will only get worse.
What problem? You walk into an Apple store or an authorised reseller and you ask for the latest iPad. If they don't have it, you get the second latest. That's it. End of transaction. When asked later, "what iPad do you have?", even years later, you'll respond "the 2011 one". It's the beauty of releasing only one model a year, you don't need to differentiate your own products against themselves. If I asked a sales rep for the latest Samsung Galaxy Tab, what would he offer me? Would it be the 5.whatever inch or the 7 or would he even try to sell me on Asus' newest transformer (for this quarter) or Dell's newest buzzword? I don't even know what's current for Android tablets at the moment, and I try to keep up with this stuff; the Kindle Fire and the Nook Colour are probably the only tablets that you could get a stranger to name or get excited about on the street, and they don't even have hardware parity with the second gen iPad. Which is the best Android? Is there a best Android? It's hard questions to put on a consumer, or even a sales rep, versus Apple's easier approach.

That's why its worth noting. You don't have ease of entry in the Android tablet market. You're assaulted with choices, and often given conflicting options from the same brands. Apple's new approach is much simpler - when you buy an iPad, you're just asking for the iPad, and you can be reasonably sure that it's the most up to date iPad you can buy at that point in history - and if not, it's the second most up to date, and its cheaper. This kind of ease of entry counts, man, especially to non-technical consumers. The iPad presents a demonstrably easier choice, and I think consumers will respond to it. Compared to Android vendor's multiple releases a year, I think it'll pan out long term much better than the multiple competing Android releases do in the short term.
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Which is the best Android? Is there a best Android?


Right now, this exact week, yes, there is a best...but it hasn't shipped yet, and by the time it DOES ship a better one will be announced.

This is why I completely agree with you.
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Aven Donn
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I've been thinking about it, and I find it interesting that they've dropped the series indicator, it's just "the iPad". No model numbers any longer, just "iPad". I think it's two fold; firstly it brings it in line with the rest of Apple's product nomenclature (we're not on the MBP7, for example), but secondly, it differentiates and defines them against the backdrop of their competitors.

If Samsung releases three tablets of varying configurations in a year, that's three device names they come out with, and a splintering of the public's awareness of Samsung's offerings. But if Apple releases one tablet a year, and it's always the iPad, what are consumers gonna opt for? The latest Galaxy Tab (of which they aren't sure the exact name of at any given moment) or just "the latest iPad"?

It's an interesting move, especially when their competitors seem to get hung up on appending new numbers and new buzzwords every time they release a device.


As opposed to walking into a store and saying "Hi, give me the latest Samsung Galaxy please"

Now you can't even check the number on the box at a glance to see if it's the right iPad, and the problem will only get worse.
What problem? You walk into an Apple store or an authorised reseller and you ask for the latest iPad. If they don't have it, you get the second latest. That's it. End of transaction. When asked later, "what iPad do you have?", even years later, you'll respond "the 2011 one". It's the beauty of releasing only one model a year, you don't need to differentiate your own products against themselves. If I asked a sales rep for the latest Samsung Galaxy Tab, what would he offer me? Would it be the 5.whatever inch or the 7 or would he even try to sell me on Asus' newest transformer (for this quarter) or Dell's newest buzzword? I don't even know what's current for Android tablets at the moment, and I try to keep up with this stuff; the Kindle Fire and the Nook Colour are probably the only tablets that you could get a stranger to name or get excited about on the street, and they don't even have hardware parity with the second gen iPad. Which is the best Android? Is there a best Android? It's hard questions to put on a consumer, or even a sales rep, versus Apple's easier approach.

That's why its worth noting. You don't have ease of entry in the Android tablet market. You're assaulted with choices, and often given conflicting options from the same brands. Apple's new approach is much simpler - when you buy an iPad, you're just asking for the iPad, and you can be reasonably sure that it's the most up to date iPad you can buy at that point in history - and if not, it's the second most up to date, and its cheaper. This kind of ease of entry counts, man, especially to non-technical consumers. The iPad presents a demonstrably easier choice, and I think consumers will respond to it. Compared to Android vendor's multiple releases a year, I think it'll pan out long term much better than the multiple competing Android releases do in the short term.


Choice is a bad thing. Gotcha. Only another reason to assume anyone with an iPad is a sheep that likes shiny things.
nouveau sereph
What problem? You walk into an Apple store or an authorised reseller and you ask for the latest iPad. If they don't have it, you get the second latest.
And you're okay with that? If i want one model i wouldn't be happy to receive another one that is not as fast, misses features or whatever.
The20
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What problem? You walk into an Apple store or an authorised reseller and you ask for the latest iPad. If they don't have it, you get the second latest.
And you're okay with that? If i want one model i wouldn't be happy to receive another one that is not as fast, misses features or whatever.


And you can just as easily walk into a regular store and ask for the latest Galaxy Tab. Or Galaxy S. And if they're missing the latest, they can offer a prior model. But somehow, choice is bad, right? Nouveau, make some sense please.
nouveau sereph
You walk into an Apple store or an authorised reseller and you ask for the latest iPad. If they don't have it, you get the second latest. That's it. End of transaction. When asked later, "what iPad do you have?", even years later, you'll respond "the 2011 one".
Yeah, not so much any more.

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