hackers

[IAY]

why do those damn hackers do something with there there skill like make good protection for computers and get paid like god damn it

[monostel]

I would say things like "white/grey/black hat" or "cracker", but I don't know what the hell you are trying to say.

[Requi-Kun]

In simple terms?

Hackers and Gaming -
Want to be 'Cool' or are just plain lazy

Hackers for everything else -
Again want to be 'Cool' are just plain lazy, apparently like to go to prison for many years for Identity theft (Through hacking), or other stupid s**t.

[kiraes]

Because not everyone can land a job and some people are bored anyways?

[monostel]

Read up on the hacker ethic here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic

[Sir Bartimus]

why work hard for something when people will give you there passwords for free?

[monostel]

You people are complete morons if you think that hackers are lazy or do "illegal" things. What they do requires a lot of skill.

A hacker/programmer and pretty much any newb can understand this:

print 'hello world'

However, not so much with this (on the newb's part anyway):

-a 0100
0AFS:0100 mov ax, 0200
0AFS:0103 mov dx, 0048
0AFS:0106 int 21
0AFS:0108 mov dx, 0065
0AFS:010B int 21
0AFS:010D mov dx, 006c
0AFS:0110 int 21
0AFS:0112 mov dx, 006c
0AFS:0115 int 21
0AFS:0117 mov dx, 006f
0AFS:011A int 21
0AFS:011C mov dx, 0020
0AF8:011F int 21
0AF8:0121 mov dx, 0077
0AF8:0124 int 21
0AF8:0126 mov dx, 006f
0AF8:0129 int 21
0AF8:012B mov dx, 0072
0AF8:012E int 21
0AF8:0130 mov dx, 006c
0AF8:0133 int 21
0AF8:0135 mov dx, 0064
0AF8:0168 int 21
0AF8:013A mov dx, 0021
0AF8:013D int 21
0AF8:013F mov dx, 000d
0AF8:0142 int 21
0AF8:0144 mov dx, 000a
0AF8:0147 int 21
0AF8:0149 int 20
0AF8:014B

Those were two Hello World! programs, both of which I wrote myself in two different programming languages FYI. A hacker would be able to understand this code in much more complex software like in an operating system and exploit holes for personal gain or to improve the system so that it can't be exploited again, making it better. This is how Unix and Linux became two of the world's greatest operating systems, and they make the internet (in case you don't know, both run big time sites like Google) possible.

Therefore, the general preconception of a hacker is wrong.

[Requi-Kun]

Actually no matter how you look at it, you are the moron. A HACKER is COMPLETELY Different then a PROGRAMMER. Sure, calling them Lazy is wrong, because creating the programs to do what they wish requires some work, I code in C+, and some C# n C-.

Now, a HACKER. Note HACKER, is a person who ILLEGALLY edits or changes a program, video games etc, etc. Through ways UNAUTHORIZED (Therefore illegal if not open source which would not be considered hacking.) Means. A good example of this would be the PSP.

The PSP came out years ago and has now been Hacked. There is no such thing as a legal hack. The PSP is now used, against Sonys will/ToS, by people the illegally exploit/HACK (Run unauthorized programs) to allow programs no intended for the PSP. Yes I agree, hacking can sometimes improve some items and programs (I cant deny it, I use CFW on my PSP) But is done ILLEGALLY.

A PROGRAMMER on the other hand is a person that creates and edits thing of their own or with the permission of the person or Company, PROGRAMMERS also make the protection to keep HACKERS from exploiting it, not the other way around. Another good example is the PSP and its firmware updates

So the only files/programs you can really edit without permission is Open Source. so yah.

Yes calling a hacker is wrong, but the things they do is illegal, requires skill, but is illegal.


Hazniceday.

[tushiiness]

Used to play maplestory, and a few months ago i downloaded it again and started playing and DAYUMM there's like a billion of hackers on there . sad
Soo, i decided just to quite Nexon games. Soooo many havckers get onto there Lol .

[Tyreal_Blizzard]

DEATH to hacker!!!!!!! YEEAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[azkay wat]

Requi-Kun

In simple terms?

Hackers and Gaming -
Want to be 'Cool' or are just plain lazy

Hackers for everything else -
Again want to be 'Cool' are just plain lazy, apparently like to go to prison for many years for Identity theft (Through hacking), or other stupid s**t.

Lazy? Ha.

[azkay wat]

Requi-Kun

Actually no matter how you look at it, you are the moron. A HACKER is COMPLETELY Different then a PROGRAMMER. Sure, calling them Lazy is wrong, because creating the programs to do what they wish requires some work, I code in C+, and some C# n C-.

Now, a HACKER. Note HACKER, is a person who ILLEGALLY edits or changes a program, video games etc, etc. Through ways UNAUTHORIZED (Therefore illegal if not open source which would not be considered hacking.) Means. A good example of this would be the PSP.

The PSP came out years ago and has now been Hacked. There is no such thing as a legal hack. The PSP is now used, against Sonys will/ToS, by people the illegally exploit/HACK (Run unauthorized programs) to allow programs no intended for the PSP. Yes I agree, hacking can sometimes improve some items and programs (I cant deny it, I use CFW on my PSP) But is done ILLEGALLY.

A PROGRAMMER on the other hand is a person that creates and edits thing of their own or with the permission of the person or Company, PROGRAMMERS also make the protection to keep HACKERS from exploiting it, not the other way around. Another good example is the PSP and its firmware updates

So the only files/programs you can really edit without permission is Open Source. so yah.

Yes calling a hacker is wrong, but the things they do is illegal, requires skill, but is illegal.


Hazniceday.

You sir, have no idea what you're talking about.

[trezoid]

IAY

why do those damn hackers do something with there there skill like make good protection for computers and get paid like god damn it

They sometimes do.

What you are thinking about (as is most people in this thread, you included azkay) is a cracker.

Often they are script kiddies who don't know better.

the media has ******** over the word hacker.

Y'all need to learn you some history.

[azkay wat]

"Hacker" has a wide array of definitions, one of which would make me a hacker for modifying my toaster ]:

[trezoid]

azkay wat

"Hacker" has a wide array of definitions, one of which would make me a hacker for modifying my toaster ]:

No, one of which would make you a hacker for modifying your toaster :]

srsly though, hacker is a term of respect that you cannot apply to yourself, and shouldn't be applied to crackers and skiddies.