Takahashi_Natsumi
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Takahashi_Natsumi
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Takahashi_Natsumi
I was responding to the lust comment. But honestly, you aren't the first person to bring up lust. A lot of people in this forum have criticized Edward and Bella for wanting to have sex. But isn't that normal? I'm just trying to understand.
I'm pretty sure it's sort of a "backlash" to the cries of "They're in loooooove! Deep, abiding, enduring TWU WUV!" when they don't show any sign of that kind of relationship in any of the books. Ever. It's not wrong for them to have that kind of relationship, per se, but to label that relationship as "love," because it ain't.
But that's my point. Love - at least the social/biological sense of love that compels us as human beings to
date, marry and
breed - is totally backed by intimacy and sexual desire. True love (in my opinion) is exactly that, coupled with communication, restraint and unselfish tendencies.
It
can be a part of true love, but no, sexual intimacy is not a requirement for it.
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Perfect love is unconditional, but humans aren't capable of that.
True, but this seems like rambling to me. Edward is all about setting conditions for Bella "for her own protection."
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It's not like Edward and Bella's opinion of each other depends on how good their sex is... like most romance novels. THAT'S a lustful relationship.
Right. It's about how much they
want to have sex (at least how Bella does) and how
Edward decides that they won't.
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Edward doesn't allow himself to try anything with Bella, despite wanting to, because he worries that it's too dangerous. How many guys would really show that kind of restraint?
I...don't even know what you're trying to argue here. Maybe it's me, idk.
I never said sexual intimacy was a
requirement. It's just there as a driving force for the whole of humanity, in a general sense. The point being that it's not unusual for couples to want to have sex. Of course you'll find some couples that just aren't very sexual. Or maybe one partner can't perform - that's where
restraint comes in to play. Love can occur without sex. But sexual urges exist in most human beings.
I don't know what you're trying to say in regards to the perfect love comment.
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Right. It's about how much they
want to have sex (at least how Bella does) and how
Edward decides that they won't.
Once again, it's normal to want to have sex with someone you love. I could use your argument on any couple in the world that wants to have sex.
Ok, my core argument here is that Edward and Bella don't demonstrate any characteristics of what I could call love. They don't have any moments where they're just together and happy to be that way. Bella, at least,
always wants more. She literally can't think about him without panting over the idea of jumping his bones.
I don't have a problem with them being sexually attracted to each other, my argument is that the
only relationship displayed by them is entirely based on lust, and little, if anything, else.
