Anyone Can't Stand HoN?

Where do you stand on Redbird?

Zoey is awesome!!!	15.3%	[ 41 ]
Redbird is bi, blast it!	3.4%	[ 9 ]
Redbird is a God-Mode Sue who must fry and die!	26.5%	[ 71 ]
Who is Redbird?	36.9%	[ 99 ]
Other	17.9%	[ 48 ]
Total Votes:			[ 268 ]

[Javier Cross]

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THE RULES:
-No posting post to incite flaming or trolling
-No encouraging trolling
-No targeting other users
-Any abusive behavior will be reported

Admittedly, this is a clone of Anyone Can't Stand Twilight, but let's be glad its going to be less offensive than whatever the Vampire Dark Ages had to throw at us all, agreed?

So let's get started, as all are welcome to the thread, alright?

Also, they are welcome to help to expand the thread, if they would like.

[Dandy-tan]

******** hate House of Night.

There's nothing good to that series at all. Nothing. It's s**t. It's just s**t. I'm sorry. But... yeah, it's s**t.


GREAT CONVO, SO FAR, EH?

I'll admit more in a minute, don't worry, y'all.

[Javier Cross]

Dandy Highwaymen

******** hate House of Night.

There's nothing good to that series at all. Nothing. It's s**t. It's just s**t. I'm sorry. But... yeah, it's s**t.


GREAT CONVO, SO FAR, EH?

I'll admit more in a minute, don't worry, y'all.

Feel free to add more, because basically everyone's invited to the thread.
The more people involved, the merrier, basically.

Now if only the likes of the Countess and the Lady Rhomeda were there, along with other vital people for the conversation, and then i will feel that we are clearly going somewhere meaningful with the thread.

[Dandy-tan]

Can't think of new material. HERE HAVE COPY PASTE-As.

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Without a doubt, this is the absolute WORST book I have ever read.

All the characters were either perfect cardboard-cutout stereotypes, or unlikable little pricks. Zoey is an annoying Super Holy MoralFag SuperSue. Absolutely nothing important happens, aside from the beginning, and not to mention a myriad of pop culture references that were no doubt, P.C Casts horrid attempt to try to make it seem ’hip’ and ’with it.’ I could go on, I have zero interest in the rest of the series. I've read enough excerpts to know THAT IT DOES NOT GET BETTER. but I wouldn't want to bore y'all with too much detail.

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Marked, of the God Awful HoN series. This book was SO bad, I mean it was SOOO bad. First of all, the main character is such a b***h, whines about everything.You seriously cannot go half a paragraph without her constant bitching. Not to mention that she's a super holy moralfag SuperSue.

The rest of the characters are bland, stereotypical, generic, and have absolutely no creativity to them. The story is some random s**t, which makes no goddamn sense, based around some generic high school drama, ultimately culminating in her taking down the Queen Bee (and her equally generic "hags".) of the school.

Her mentor is wise. She's ethnically interesting. She's got problems at home...

The hottest boy in school likes her, angering the Queen Bee. Honestly, I didn't even ******** finish this book. I had like, a page to go, but my IQ had dropped so many points already that I didn't want to take the risk.

This shyte-fest was written by a mother/daughter team, who love Zoey so much and refuse to let anything happen to her. This book is also an extreme piece of feminist bullshit and it basically just spends the entire book slamming Christians.

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And no. The series is crap. Strike that, it's worse than crap. Zoey is a little t**t that makes Bella look like an amazing character. Every other character is a stereotypical card-board cut out that still manage to be annoying little pricks. Reading Marked (which I think is the worst book I have ever read) was an incredibly painful experience. Not because reading IS actually difficult for me (learning disabilities are the pits, yo) but because the damn book was so predictable, and it could have been easily been trimmed down a few chapters, but the Craps insisted on giving Zoey these stupid a** asides.

At least SMEYER tried to make the writing semi-decent, and the fact that Twishite has its obvious faults (I'm no fan of the series) I have to rank it as better than HoS. At least in Twilight, all the characters were either bland to the point where I couldn't care about them either way, or mildly interesting. EVERY SINGLE ******** CHARACTER in HoN makes me want to kill s**t. The writing is terrible, there are cliches up the wazoo, and there is absolutely, positively, nothing GOOD ABOUT IT.

Worst books ever.

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Ew. Those books are so bad they make Twilight look like an Orwellian masterpiece of lit.

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Come now, there is absolutely nothing good in this s**t-stain of a series. If 'hot guys' are what appeals to people, it finally answers my question as to why people enjoy House of s**t so much.

Though, the male characters--along with every other characters in this s**t--are bland as ******** so I don't see how any of them could be appealing.
If believing Zoey is a bad, annoying, poorly written character (which she is; she's one of the worst characters I have ever come across) means that something is wrong with you, than I will admit that I'm not right.

And none of the characters are interesting enough for me to want to read in their POVs. Reading in Zoey's was torture enough.

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I mean, at least in Twilight, all the characters were either A) bland to the point where I could not like them, or dislike them, for that matter or B) faintly interesting, where HoN's characters are all cardboard cut-out stereotypes, and they're all annoying little picks.

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But that's just me.
I agree. Zoey is probably the worst character I've had the displeasure of reading about. And I think she is based off the author's daughter. MY GOD.

Sure, Bella's whiny and annoying and unrealistic. But Zoey is that x1000.

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The characters are s**t.The 'plot' is s**t.The writing is s**t. The entire series is s**t. The worst s**t I've ever read, to be honest.

Seriously, there is absolutely nothing good about this series. At least in Twilight, SMeyer TRIED to make something out of the pile of s**t she had to work with, and she made that pile of s**t into a misshapen little brown vase. Sure it's ugly, but when you put nice little flowers on it the way SMeyer did, it almost looks presentable.

P.C and Kristen Crap, however, are nothing more than two monkeys flinging s**t at each other and screeching like drunken banshees. A bored zookeeper takes the died up pieces of s**t and sells them, hoping to make easy money.

Yes, that is how bad HoS is, IMHO.

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Well, here is my two cents. I'd rather have a super bland main character (Bella) than a whiny, super holier-than-thou SuperSue. Sure, Bella was annoying. Sure, Bella was a bland Mary Sue. That I will not deny.

However, when characters in both stories fail, there are a few things that can save it. Writing and description. Come on now, at least SMeyer TRIED to make her writing all nice and pretty and descriptive and s**t, while TWO people couldn't convey colloquial everyday language without sounding cheesy and trite.

Also, in Twilight, all characters were either dull and I had no interest in them, or they were mildly interesting. In HoN, however, they're all walking stereotypes. None of them are interesting in the least, and in fact, they're all quite irritating. Every time Stereotypical Black Chick or Cliche Gay Guy said or did anything, I groaned. It was extremely predictable.

I could go on. I really could. But this is just my opinion:


Twilight >>>>> House of s**t.

And I don't even LIKE Twilight.

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The Casts' cannot write. How they sold so many book is beyond me. The only who did a good job here was the marketing department. I applause them. If I ever write a crappy book I want to work with them.

It seemed to me that HoN was only ever a first draft with some revisions here and there, without any actual effort to fix the copious amounts of bad writing. I'm not saying that wasn't there in the Twilight books, but at least in the Twilight books it was a bit less obvious.

Two college educated people can't get simple grammar and diction down. It's more so scary because the books infer that the Casts have read Shakespeare and Byron. How could they still be such idiot writers if they've read such material?

Or, the editor wasn't very good. That's a shitty editor who deserves to be fired, d00ds.

Aren't my copy paste-as fun, y'all?

[Aachren]

Damn, Dandy, you sure know how to fill the first page of a thread!
Go you!

[Dandy-tan]

Aachren

Damn, Dandy, you sure know how to fill the first page of a thread!
Go you!

I am a unique and incredible woman. mad

And yes. Yes, I do. :^D

[Javier Cross]

Aachren

Damn, Dandy, you sure know how to fill the first page of a thread!
Go you!

I never believe i alone can be right, which is all the more reason for me to invite as many people to this potential discussion as possible, Aachren.

Also, there is a good reason(or at least a fairly decent one!) why i pretty much posted that 3rd option on there, i can assure you, or may i get maimed.

Dandy has a lot of points noted out, so shall we see what others may add to the thread worth discussing?

[Aachren]

Dandy Highwaymen

I am a unique and incredible woman. mad

And yes. Yes, I do. :^D

You are and you have my adoration and respect for it!

[Aachren]

Javier Cross

I never believe i alone can be right, which is all the more reason for me to invite as many people to this potential discussion as possible, Aachren.

Also, there is a good reason(or at least a fairly decent one!) why i pretty much posted that 3rd option on there, i can assure you, or may i get maimed.

Dandy has a lot of points noted out, so shall we see what others may add to the thread worth discussing?

I have, sadly, very little to add to the discussion...all I can really remember is that Zoey was a major slut.

[Javier Cross]

Aachren

Javier Cross

I never believe i alone can be right, which is all the more reason for me to invite as many people to this potential discussion as possible, Aachren.

Also, there is a good reason(or at least a fairly decent one!) why i pretty much posted that 3rd option on there, i can assure you, or may i get maimed.

Dandy has a lot of points noted out, so shall we see what others may add to the thread worth discussing?

I have, sadly, very little to add to the discussion...all I can really remember is that Zoey was a major slut.

As i have the odd tendency to ask(too many times for me to count!) would it have made things any better if Redbird went bi, by now?

Or would it have made matters worse?

Either way, i feel too much to consider must be done if the Casts want to redeem Redbird.

[Aachren]

Javier Cross

As i have the odd tendency to ask(too many times for me to count!) would it have made things any better if Redbird went bi, by now?

Or would it have made matters worse?

Either way, i feel too much to consider must be done if the Casts want to redeem Redbird.

Nope, I was just bothered by the fact that she thought she should be allowed to sexual ensnare anyone she got the hots for. That they all happened to be male was immaterial to me.

[Captain Talavar]

It's...terrible. Absolutely terrible. I mean, I dunno how much more to add. It's really just a big trash heap. The sad thing is, someone out there decided that this would be good to publish. Someone actually thought it was worth all the expenses of mass-producing a ton of copies of that material. It's sad because you just know there's quality stuff out there that no one is touching.

Don't get me started on what this sort of trash has done to the vampire genre, either.

[Javier Cross]

Everyone who listed out concerns and other vitals in the thread has more points to take note of.

Does anyone else wish to add more to the regards before we can begin in earnest, as this is the warm-up session?

[NightfallDuet]

Reading the first couple pages of Marked made me want to just vomit. She kept bragging, lingering, and just droning on about her Cherokee race and how she just randomly discovered her new-found powers. OH MY GOD! I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR POWERS!


Sheesh.

[Fujiko Kurokawa]

I couldn't get through Marked. But I can wrote notes on my kindle while I was trying to read it. I can copy paste some snark for you guys, if you like.