Charmed: New Evil Rises OOC

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Chibi_tomb_robber

gelo's just made syler got caught. :p
anyhoo! do you see how invested
wyatt is in melinda?!? omg talk
about some family love. i can
only imagine what her dating
life is going to be like. i mean
this guy lives and breaths for his sister. twisted

[iGelo]

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He wouldn't need to be a telepath just as I said before, a human could over power a telepath. It's not bending Wyatt's will is having his own stronger be able to see over such things. In this case he wouldn't have to since he has his power of immunity which took affect. This allows him to step from such things - Such as turning the world upside down he would still be upside right. His powers are not bound seeing as how he just used them on a pillow. Same for the cloaking he tried using it on him yet it didn't work so he took that and instead placed it over him self. The only thing that will hurt him could be other demons, or if he allows it a witches power.

Also Sidmund was killed in magic school, think that was his name. Before demons even took over.

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iGelo

immunity doesn't work here.
it is proven that in the show
demons having immunity
can be stripped of their
powers so that means
nothing. in fact i specifally
says on charmed wiki
that they succomb to
power stripping/binding.

no he wasn't he was beheaded
but he was still alive. because
his body was in magic school
>__>

[iGelo]

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Note - Though it was said no one could die in Magic School, Gideon is the first person shown to break this by using Molecular Dispersion to kill Sigmund.

Immunity is the ability that, like its name already says, grants the possessor immunity from most or any kind of powers (including their own), spells, and potions (except for a Power Stripping Potion)

It has nothing about projection and force of will of stripping, thus that is a power not a potion. In this case immunity grants it, since it is any kind of power.

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iGelo

oh sorry wrong incident. but that does not mean
the rule was broken. sidmund was not dead
only dismembered at the molecular level if he had
the power of reconstruction he'd be fine but he
does not. in basic terms he doesn't exist anymore.

also, i will say this again. the house is acting in
the same way the potion would. if wyatt were
acting directly upon syler that would be ones
thing but he's not he's made it so that syler's
powers ( which includes immunity ) do not
work in the house. his powers are acting
upon the house syler's abilities are only the
casualty of reality. if something cannot
exist in a place than it cannot exist then
there is no power in all the universe that
can change that escept the power which
made it so.

you can't argue projection vs. immunity
it's basic logic, what cannot exist does
not exist what cannot be done wont be
done. in reality there are no contradiction,
what is, is and what is not is not.

also that is clearly not accurate!
the source had this same power
but was vanquished by a SPELL
why because the power of three
superceeded his own the same
is true of wyatt. twice-blessed
and charmed trumps upper-level.
demon by worlds. wyatt was bending
reality before he was born.

i mean all in all i could have wyatt just
conjure a power stripping potion if that
will make you happy but i figured it would
be nicer to somply bind them so he can
actually get them back.

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You can easily argue it, because it can be undone. Something can exist even if it's not suppose to.
Paige existed was yet not suppose to in another world, she should of been erased yet was not. His powers exist, because it was not a potion if it was a potion he would of just blown it away or back at Wyatt. It's a power which was not active before he stepped into the house, a power that was only activated because of him and his immunity was already working. If the time reversed he would be immune and in the same spot as everyone else be gone. Same goes for this.

Following Sigmund, he did die since that's how they looked at it. Making it possible to die in magic school. It's like saying piper didn't kill any demon with her power since it's the almost the same just no explosion. The house can act in the same way a potion WOULD but it's not a power stripping potion. It's designed as a power which would not affect him.

He was vanquished by a power of three spell. That would be the same as saying. What would be the point of the roleplay if Wyatt can simply stand in one spot, and have evil vanish for good, just watch the source appear and will him dead. It would hold no point. Charmed doesn't defeat anything considering Prue was killed. Showing they can be stopped. The only way to vanquish him was to call all the halliwell magic. This goes to show every immunity power is different.

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iGelo

my friend, it does not matter when the power
was active. it's written it is reality besides
you don't know when the power was active
would could have just as easily changed
the past creating this before syler arrived.
and if it can't exist it doesn't you're right
wyatt's not taking his powers he binding
them! they don't work in the house. but
once again this goes. it goes back to
what i was saying; the source is immune
to spells but was vanquished by one
wyatt beat upper-level.

the charmed ones aren't immune to anything
they never were and i never said they were
but the power of three is the most powerful
magic there is as stated by destiny prior to
wyatt. they can be stopped ... so what? that
does not change the fact that nothing can
stand up to the power of three no immuity
is the same it's just simply who has the
most juice. if what you're battling is more
powerful ... then you're screwed. and even
if that was true what makes you think that
a demon would have better immunity than
the SOURCE OF ALL EVIL?

as for that whole isn't not a potion ...
that's a crappy argument. whether
it be a potion or a crystal or a house
all three work in the same way. you
can blow up the house if you want
all your essentially telling me is
"it's a solid not a liquid."
the potion is given power based on
what's in. the house was given power
by wyatt.

also it does not matter how they spin it
sidmund did not die he was dismembered
in fact gideon being the genius that he
was probably picked that power because
he knew it would work because it does
not contridict the rules of magic school
a person can live without an arm or a leg.
once again he was simply dismembered
at the molecular level since he did not
have the power of reconstruction he was
not able to return when the barrier around
magic school was broken one could assume
that he was officially dead since the angel of
death could then enter magic school and
collect.

yes! wyatt could easily wipe out alll evil there
ever is was and will ever be and if he did that
there would be no point in a role-play why
doesn't he do that ... go watch "It's a bad bad bad bad world
part 1 and 2" and find out. To permanent
destroy the ultimate evil would cause an
irrecoverable shift in the balance putting good
to far ahead and changing the grand design
as a whole. this is why wyatt does not use
projection when one starts tampering with
reality they tamper with the delicate balance
of the grand design and risk destroying
everything! and fyi wyatt doesn't like the
idea of being shot for parking in the
wrong spot or getting his arm cut
off for using his cell phone in a hospital
wyatt does not know enough about the
balance to try something like that but
binding one demon's powers shouldn't
hurt much.

also now that you're arguing role-play etiquette
i'm done with this. you had me while you were
using evidence from the show.

[iGelo]

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Sigmund was killed simple as that, they said that's how it went by Gideon not by anyone else. That part is done, and he is long dead making it so magic school allows death. It was shown it was stated.

He can't bind them, saying he is binding them is saying the same as using powers on him. Like I said before he still has his powers as shown from immunity. We don't know how far the sources immunity went it could of been to just powers, demons powers it could of been to getting cut. It never said he was fully immune to spells. It's a possibility he may have been. Though considering he was vanquished by one it goes to show even spells worked on him.

Many demons had different powers greater than the source. It is unknown if all of his powers are equal to that of other demons. His powers mean nothing when another demon could have stronger fire balls to the sources.

The power works that way, it is no argument it's telling you that's how it is. Take it or leave it easy as that. Which goes back to Wyatt, trying to take away a demons powers fear of his family. A little demon yet he wouldn't use it against something like the source of all evil who could take out his family. Yeah something wrong with that. They do work in the house and will stay that way unless used by a power stripping potion the only way. Projection was met with immunity and failed horribly because even though it was used on the house it is still a power directed at who? A demon and who is the only demon at the moment Sylar meaning it was directed at him. That is the main reason Wyatt did it.

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in conclusion. the source has immunity to spells
the source was vanquished by a spell, because
the spell used against him called upon powers
far greater than he. this power superseded his
power and immunity and this he was vanquished.
the same is true for wyatt being both twice-blessed
and charmed ( no being charmed does not make him
invincible, it makes his powers far greater than that
of any normal witch and the fact that you'd state
something like "prue was killed" is a turn-off and
you know how much i like a good debate ) supersedes
a upper-level demon by worlds.

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iGelo

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Sigmund was killed simple as that, they said that's how it went by Gideon not by anyone else. That part is done, and he is long dead making it so magic school allows death. It was shown it was stated.

no! he was not! he was dismembered at molecular level
if death cannot enter the school he is not dead. also
that's not how an argument works i explain my position
and put forth evidence you can't just bully your way into
a win like that. >___>
i'm surpiced at you.

had the source been hit with an attack like that
the source would have reconstructed meaning
the fact that there is a distinct difference between
reconstruction and resurrection in the show proves
my point

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iGelo

you're the one who just made the case
that the wiki says spells, powers and
potions ( except for power stripping )
your case is becoming weaker and
weaker now that you're going against
your own evidence.

also he wont use it against the source
of all evil because the source has a
part to play in the grand design! wyatt
does not know how far the effects of
his power will reach of starts messing
with that.

at the house! it does not matter why it
happened. a potion is given power based
on what is mixed in the potion. wyatt
projected onto the house that's as far
as his projection goes. it is now the
house that is saying his power does
not work here not the projection.

[iGelo]

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You can say that all you want, yet you did not write it and did not create the show. You can think he didn't die, but otherwise he did die because that is how it was portrayed. The moment he scattered is the moment he died, his body literally bring torn apart. And if you want to throw in if he had the power to re-assemble him self.. Well he didn't making him dead. This holds no evidence against him living, Gideon was even stated to have killed him making it so.

I also made the case that all immunity is different, some hold all of those (Potions, spells, powers) as it states, some only have a few.

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iGelo

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You can say that all you want, yet you did not write it and did not create the show. You can think he didn't die, but otherwise he did die because that is how it was portrayed. The moment he scattered is the moment he died, his body literally bring torn apart. And if you want to throw in if he had the power to re-assemble him self.. Well he didn't making him dead. This holds no evidence against him living, Gideon was even stated to have killed him making it so.

I also made the case that all immunity is different, some hold all of those (Potions, spells, powers) as it states, some only have a few.

had the source been hit with an attack like that
the source would have reconstructed meaning
the fact that there is a distinct difference between
reconstruction and resurrection in the show proves
my point.

of course he did if you wiped someone off the face
of the earth and they're not coming back you're
not going to say i dismembered him at a molecular
level. no he's as good as dead but as good as dead
and dead are not the same thing

but the source's doesn't his says immunity! he was
vanquished with a spell.

y'see i'm using evidence provided by the show
you're starting to just bully wins.

[iGelo]

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He was dead that's how it was taken and given- it holds nothing more since no one mentioned him possibly alive, or just scattered.

The source's doesn't mention what he was immune to, though he did grab potions and crush them so it shown he was immune to those. Seeing as how a spell in fact did work it goes to show he was not immune to spells. So he wasn't fully immune to everything thrown at him. Now if he was vanquished with a potion that would be a different story.

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iGelo

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He was dead that's how it was taken and given- it holds nothing more since no one mentioned him possibly alive, or just scattered.

The source's doesn't mention what he was immune to, though he did grab potions and crush them so it shown he was immune to those. Seeing as how a spell in fact did work it goes to show he was not immune to spells. So he wasn't fully immune to everything thrown at him. Now if he was vanquished with a potion that would be a different story.

no because one of logic who knows
that death cannot occur in magic
school knows that this is not possible.
i'm sorry but it's magic school it's a
bunch of children learning to us
magic i'm SURE that something
far worse has happened there
than a few molecules getting
scattered. just being honest.

gelo. look me in the eyes and
swear on the love we shared in
the past and tell me that you
honestly believe the source is
not immune to spell casting.
especially when both of his
advisors who live to kill him
are spell casters and powerful
ones at that. ( i'm speaking of
the triad and seer )