Arena judging is way too strict READ CAREFULLY B4 COMMENTING

[Sesshnat]

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU COMMENT OR RATE THIS TOPIC

I've been on Gaia since 2007. Back then there was no separation of cosplay or original avatars. I have submitted what is apparently and original avatar (not really) into the cosplay avatars. Yet I am being shot down for in the cosplay. I am not the only one. (edit- who has done this) Today I have found another original avatar in the cosplay yet they are not being shot down. That avatar is a variation of a character just like mine is. I have even stated mine was a variation and the title of my cosplay was a spin off of a band. Someone reported my comment explaining that as spam and it was deleted. (edit- I know for a fact the comment was submitted)

Honestly people, the whole point of something being in an arena. Is for it whether a home, art, or avi is to be judged based on HOW IT LOOKS not WHERE IT IS.

People are way too strict with judging.
I have seen many get judged and a 1 star for such stupid reasons such as "I have never seen that show 1/5" If you have never seen the show skip it and rate what you have seen! I have also seen one "this bores me 1/5" when the avatar looked just like the reference picture.

Besides my avi, and the other original that isnt being shot down, I have found another original in the cosplay where they even commented saying it was a slip of the mouse and an accident, and the same people who judged mine and new ones continued to rate a 1 for them being there.

I am a real life fashion designer. I judge based on how it looks and if it is given a certain theme, does it fit that theme. I will judge based off where it is if I see a prom dress at a wedding. Now that is too much.

People just really need to flat out lighten up on things and judge based how it looks. Thats the whole point. Honestly if this stuff is all you care about in your life then I suggest getting a better hobby some people have really no idea how to judge.

EDIT-I didnt submit my avi to get a 1 from everyone because I submitted my avi in the wrong place. (which I didnt) I submitted my avi for people to tell me my avi cool or its stupid. My avatar is a variation of Jason Voorhees. I didnt make Jason hes not my original design. The original avatars is for original characters and original outfits. Not variations of a character I'm sure if I submitted my avatar into the original they would tell me its cosplay. EVERYONE has they're own opinions including whats an original avi and whats a cosplay. People SHOULD just ignore WHERE the avatar is and focus on why its really in the arena in the first place. TO BE RATED BASED ON HOW IT LOOKS. If you submit a variation of a TV, movie, or anime/cartoon character I think it would fit fine under cosplay. People are way too strict with rates. A variation of a character is 50% original and 50% cosplay

Who else agrees some people are too strict?

(I have also had a question about something real life some time ago, I posted it in questions and assistance, many people commented it was in the wrong forum. Mods have the power to move those and mine was not moved so my post was in the right forum. People seriously grow up if asked a question just answer it if its in the forums its not your place to say its in the wrong forum)

EDIT- THOSE WHO ARE JUST NOW READING THIS AND THOSE WHO HAVE COMMENTED ALREADY- MOST OF YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT WHILE SOME OF YOU TOOK FOREVER TO GET IT AND SOME OF YOU ARE STILL ARGUING WITH ME FOR NO REASON- BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SAID MY AVATAR BELONGED THERE. I REALIZE FULL WELL THAT THERE ARE 2 SEPARATE ARENAS. THE POINT OF THIS ENTIRE TOPIC WAS THE FIRST THING YOU READ! ABOUT THE JUDGES, STUPID RATINGS OTHER PEOPLE GET FOR STUPID REASONS, AND MY PROBLEM GETTING DOWN RATED FOR MY LOCATION WHILE OTHERS WHO MADE THE SAME MISTAKE AS ME ARE GETTING HIGHER. SO FAR I AM THE ONLY ONE I HAVE SEEN BUT I'M SURE THERE HAVE BEEN OTHERS. THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE THE PEOPLE LIKE ME, AND THOSE WHO GOT THEIR EXPLANATIONS IGNORED, AND PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE THE WAY THE ARENA IS ORGANIZED TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS WHY HAS IT TAKEN SOME OF YOU FOREVER TO GET IT!? GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN HOW TO READ! I AM GOING BACK TO ALL MY COMMENTS AND BOLDING WHAT PEOPLE HAVE IGNORED OR MISREAD. I AM DONE WITH THIS- PEOPLE MAY POST OPINIONS AS THEY PLEASE. AS WHAT I WILL DO I WILL SUBMIT ANYTHING WHERE EVER I WANT DO YOU PEOPLE HONESTLY THINK I CARE? YOU DONT HAVE IMAGINATIONS, ARNT OPEN MINDED, AND NEED TO LIGHTEN UP!

[Pilotslover]

Of course people are going to judge you if you put something in the wrong place ...

Look, if your avatar is a variance of something that exists it's not a cosplay since it's your own take on the theme; misplaced avatars nark me a little, not going to lie.

People are always going to rate based on their own opinions (As is right!) and whether you understand their motivations or not that's just the nature of the beast.

I personally try to rate fairly but a misplace avatar will usually get a one for the simple reason that I don't want to see a misplaced avatar place, maybe that's wrong but it seems logical to me. I'll also dock points for a cosplay lacking a mouth (Because that's just daft!), if a cosplay is insanely easy (Chell from Portal comes to mind!) or if I've seen it too many times. Maybe that's harsh but that's the system I use.

[the flying penguin]

It makes me think of a show I was watching the other day.
Two contestants had to design 3 outfits based on a super power and the whole theme was about superheros.
One of the contestants just wanted to design whatever she wanted and completely disregard the whole point of the challenge.
Though her clothes were absolutely beautiful, she did not follow the rules at all.

I have to agree with those who mark down entries in the wrong place.
Where it is is very important. You wouldn't submit a bird house in a cake making contest would you?

[Sesshnat]

the flying penguin

It makes me think of a show I was watching the other day.
Two contestants had to design 3 outfits based on a super power and the whole theme was about superheros.
One of the contestants just wanted to design whatever she wanted and completely disregard the whole point of the challenge.
Though her clothes were absolutely beautiful, she did not follow the rules at all.

I have to agree with those who mark down entries in the wrong place.
Where it is is very important. You wouldn't submit a bird house in a cake making contest would you?

I wasnt saying that now was I? If you submit a variation of a TV, movie, or anime/cartoon character I think it would fit fine under cosplay. People are way too strict with rates. A variation of a cosplay is close not 100% cosplay without it being 100% but it wouldnt be an original either so I think it would fit just fine under cosplay

[Sesshnat]

Pilotslover

Of course people are going to judge you if you put something in the wrong place ...

Look, if your avatar is a variance of something that exists it's not a cosplay since it's your own take on the theme; misplaced avatars nark me a little, not going to lie.

People are always going to rate based on their own opinions (As is right!) and whether you understand their motivations or not that's just the nature of the beast.

I personally try to rate fairly but a misplace avatar will usually get a one for the simple reason that I don't want to see a misplaced avatar place, maybe that's wrong but it seems logical to me. I'll also dock points for a cosplay lacking a mouth (Because that's just daft!), if a cosplay is insanely easy (Chell from Portal comes to mind!) or if I've seen it too many times. Maybe that's harsh but that's the system I use.

My avatar is a variation of Jason Voorhees. I didnt make Jason hes not my original design. The original avatars is for original characters and original outfits. Not variations of a character I'm sure if I submitted my avatar into the original they would tell me its cosplay. You're right. EVERYONE has they're own opinions including whats an original avi and whats a cosplay. People SHOULD just ignore WHERE the avatar is and focus on why its really in the arena in the first place. TO BE RATED BASED ON HOW IT LOOKS

[iAiChan]

I actually agree. I see lots of spin offs of characters who submit to original and they get bad rates because people think it should be in cosplay. Sesshnat has a valid point.

The whole point of being in the arena is to be rated by how you look I would get P.O. if someone kept giving me a 1 just because they think it should be some where else.

[the flying penguin]

Sesshnat

I wasnt saying that now was I?

Um...

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Honestly people, the whole point of something being in an arena. Is for it whether a home, art, or avi is to be judged based on HOW IT LOOKS not WHERE IT IS.

that was the comment I was referring to when I made my post.

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If you submit a variation of a TV, movie, or anime/cartoon character I think it would fit fine under cosplay. People are way too strict with rates. A variation of a cosplay is close not 100% cosplay without it being 100% but it wouldnt be an original either so I think it would fit just fine under cosplay

I think it is important for people to look more for accuracy when they are going through cosplays. I think once you change a character it becomes harder to judge fairly because you are adding your own original ideas to it.

I think making your own variation of a cosplay could be abused as a copout to make an easier version of the character. It takes some of the difficulty out of finding all the right items to make it precise.

[Anrakki-7]

the flying penguin

Sesshnat

I wasnt saying that now was I?

Um...

Quote:

Honestly people, the whole point of something being in an arena. Is for it whether a home, art, or avi is to be judged based on HOW IT LOOKS not WHERE IT IS.

that was the comment I was referring to when I made my post.

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If you submit a variation of a TV, movie, or anime/cartoon character I think it would fit fine under cosplay. People are way too strict with rates. A variation of a cosplay is close not 100% cosplay without it being 100% but it wouldnt be an original either so I think it would fit just fine under cosplay

I think it is important for people to look more for accuracy when they are going through cosplays. I think once you change a character it becomes harder to judge fairly because you are adding your own original ideas to it.

I think making your own variation of a cosplay could be abused as a copout to make an easier version of the character. It takes some of the difficulty out of finding all the right items to make it precise.

Then there really is no place to put a character into a right place now is there? Its 50% cosplay and 50% original. And a variation of a character is so that its NOT precise. If one wanted to give a character a special outfit that they didnt have in the original series/movie it would be an original outfit on a non original character and its up to the people to judge based on if that character would wear something like that or not. Just like if Sesshnat's avi was a girl would Jason Voorhees really look like that? You cant place something like that so I agree people need to be less picky and just judge based on how it looks.

[the flying penguin]

Anrakki-7

the flying penguin

Sesshnat

I wasnt saying that now was I?

Um...

Quote:

Honestly people, the whole point of something being in an arena. Is for it whether a home, art, or avi is to be judged based on HOW IT LOOKS not WHERE IT IS.

that was the comment I was referring to when I made my post.

Quote:

If you submit a variation of a TV, movie, or anime/cartoon character I think it would fit fine under cosplay. People are way too strict with rates. A variation of a cosplay is close not 100% cosplay without it being 100% but it wouldnt be an original either so I think it would fit just fine under cosplay

I think it is important for people to look more for accuracy when they are going through cosplays. I think once you change a character it becomes harder to judge fairly because you are adding your own original ideas to it.

I think making your own variation of a cosplay could be abused as a copout to make an easier version of the character. It takes some of the difficulty out of finding all the right items to make it precise.

Then there really is no place to put a character into a right place now is there? Its 50% cosplay and 50% original. And a variation of a character is so that its NOT precise. If one wanted to give a character a special outfit that they didnt have in the original series/movie it would be an original outfit on a non original character and its up to the people to judge based on if that character would wear something like that or not. Just like if Sesshnat's avi was a girl would Jason Voorhees really look like that? You cant place something like that so I agree people need to be less picky and just judge based on how it looks.

I can see the predicament in this.
edit: I have decided that such entries should be in the original arenas because it is your own take on a character and people would not be able to judge fairly using the original reference. Just be clear in your description about taking the idea from the show but your own variation of it.

[Cecilia Wolfram Davidson]

I will be fair. Your version stinks. If you put it in cosplay, variations are considered not cosplay. If it is not Jason as per the movies, then it is not Jason. If it was entered under original then you need to clarify that it is not an attempt at cosplay.

But we have a right to critique harshly if necessary smile

[Matsuri1311]

Cecilia Wolfram Davidson

I will be fair. Your version stinks. If you put it in cosplay, variations are considered not cosplay. If it is not Jason as per the movies, then it is not Jason. If it was entered under original then you need to clarify that it is not an attempt at cosplay.

But we have a right to critique harshly if necessary smile

Did you not read? Thats what she wanted was to be judged based on how it looks not where it is. And shes not talking about just her avi she's talking about other's as well. And that is also you're opinion. Plenty of people put cosplays into originals and vice versa. Her avi as I see it is 50/50. So a gender bend of a character is not cosplay even though people gender bend at real life conventions all the time? I would say they're still cosplaying. And Sesshnat also said that she commented on her avi entry explaining her reasons but it was reported as spam and deleted. Then lots of people commented and it got out of control. That is just not fair.

And I think Sesshnat's Jason is very lovely and sexy and is Jason was a girl I would Jason wearing that. smile Its important to use imagination in this case. If you think it stinks I would like to see you do better.

[Matsuri1311]

the flying penguin

Anrakki-7

the flying penguin

Sesshnat

I wasnt saying that now was I?

Um...

Quote:

Honestly people, the whole point of something being in an arena. Is for it whether a home, art, or avi is to be judged based on HOW IT LOOKS not WHERE IT IS.

that was the comment I was referring to when I made my post.

Quote:

If you submit a variation of a TV, movie, or anime/cartoon character I think it would fit fine under cosplay. People are way too strict with rates. A variation of a cosplay is close not 100% cosplay without it being 100% but it wouldnt be an original either so I think it would fit just fine under cosplay

I think it is important for people to look more for accuracy when they are going through cosplays. I think once you change a character it becomes harder to judge fairly because you are adding your own original ideas to it.

I think making your own variation of a cosplay could be abused as a copout to make an easier version of the character. It takes some of the difficulty out of finding all the right items to make it precise.

Then there really is no place to put a character into a right place now is there? Its 50% cosplay and 50% original. And a variation of a character is so that its NOT precise. If one wanted to give a character a special outfit that they didnt have in the original series/movie it would be an original outfit on a non original character and its up to the people to judge based on if that character would wear something like that or not. Just like if Sesshnat's avi was a girl would Jason Voorhees really look like that? You cant place something like that so I agree people need to be less picky and just judge based on how it looks.

I can see the predicament in this.
edit: I have decided that such entries should be in the original arenas because it is your own take on a character and people would not be able to judge fairly using the original reference. Just be clear in your description about taking the idea from the show but your own variation of it.

But that is still you're opinion. Some would argue you can do the same vise versa. The avatar would still be 50/50 You could judge fairly using a reference if it's good enough and have a vivid imagination. The point still being Sesshnat's point is that people should ignore where an avatar is when its 50/50 and judge solely based on how it looks

[Sesshnat]

Cecilia Wolfram Davidson

I will be fair. Your version stinks. If you put it in cosplay, variations are considered not cosplay. If it is not Jason as per the movies, then it is not Jason. If it was entered under original then you need to clarify that it is not an attempt at cosplay.

But we have a right to critique harshly if necessary smile

Thats what I wanted to hear was a critique but you're opinion would matter if you looked like someone who actually watched the movie series, was commented in the arena not forum, and you're avi isnt much of a looker either... Sorry :/

[Cecilia Wolfram Davidson]

My looks have nothing to do with my opinion :3

The fact that you feel the need to insult my avatar just makes you look silly smile