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Ello Teekay
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Eh...
Not hugely into digital stuff. It looks nice enough but it's so much harder to do things traditionally. Also, computers are not substitute for practice; you'll need to get some practice before you start investing in such things.


I have to disagree with this. Digital art is just as hard, if not harder to learn to do.

Plus, it's great practice. I was horrible with my art before I actually got in to it and practiced. All digital too, once I switched over.

It's VERY hard to switch from traditional to digital because everything is different. I've had to practice for years to do both because I started out only traditionally. I advise practicing with both mediums, to get used to both of them.

I use a tablet as well, and I recommend them highly. Though, I hated mine at first and didn't use it until years later, so I suggest picking up a used one if you can get it, because they are very odd to use at first.

Here's my {url=http://pineapple-koji.deviantart.com]DA account I wouldn't be able to do all of them, but maybe a few. And probably only sketches, with simple color, because my art is very pricey.


I have also tried digital and have two graphics tablets of my own (my first one was only compatible with XP, and I got vista, thoguh I love my old tablet more) and found it wayy too simply. Say, I've changed my mind about the hair colour; I can just change it. With traditional art it's tough. You have to get it right first time. There's no undo button with traditional art. Blending it easier digitally too. I'll give it's dues; the finished product is often extremely polished and professional, but I'll stick to traditional. Also, you have to be able to draw before you sit in front of a tablet, you have to draw on a tablet too, the method is no different.
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Ello Teekay
FelixFELONY
Eh...
Not hugely into digital stuff. It looks nice enough but it's so much harder to do things traditionally. Also, computers are not substitute for practice; you'll need to get some practice before you start investing in such things.


I have to disagree with this. Digital art is just as hard, if not harder to learn to do.

Plus, it's great practice. I was horrible with my art before I actually got in to it and practiced. All digital too, once I switched over.

It's VERY hard to switch from traditional to digital because everything is different. I've had to practice for years to do both because I started out only traditionally. I advise practicing with both mediums, to get used to both of them.

I use a tablet as well, and I recommend them highly. Though, I hated mine at first and didn't use it until years later, so I suggest picking up a used one if you can get it, because they are very odd to use at first.

Here's my DA account I wouldn't be able to do all of them, but maybe a few. And probably only sketches, with simple color, because my art is very pricey.


Awww...your art is very nice.
Not quite the style I'd be looking for for my OC refs though. Perhaps after I get them done though I'll buy some art from you.
whispering_sweet_nothings
I wouldn't mind!
Next time my parents are in town, I'll ask if they can bring my printer/scanner and I'll show you.
I'd appreciate constructive criticism actually.
Though at first my mind will do it's usual neurotic "she's personally attacking my work" thing. I can usually shut it up with a cookie though.
Anyway, I'm paying people to draw....because my art still sucks.
If it was of a quality that I was able to draw good art of my characters, I wouldn't be paying others for art...at least not as much...but I still really really suck when it comes to drawing.
Though I don't think I have any recent art scanned....
I can check though.

But like I can't draw hands and can't do any real poses or anything....it's just bad.


I found poses and hands hardest too- and I still do. Once you know a character well enough though, they just adapt a pose in your mind's eye quite naturally. Once you develop an eye for it, it doesn't go away. I can tell straight away from looking at your avvy that it'd look best in pastels and in a fairly foggy/ misty background.
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Yeah, my problem right now is just working with the body....arm and leg position stuff...and then faces and hair.
At the moment I work best when I have a reference to go off of usually...though I'm working on getting away from that a little.
Oh, and I need to work on proportions too.
I was gonna show one of my more recent arts, but it's just a headshot...
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Noo, show me ^.^

<---Not demanding at all.
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eek That's... a lot of references. You'd probably be better off just commissioning someone for full body character portraits instead of full blown references. Unless that's what you're talking about and then you should edit that. smile
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XD
Okay, here it is....
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/Angel_of_Death911/VitGuiltCoup.jpg


Orkid: Ah, thanks for the tip/advice/stuffs.
whispering_sweet_nothings
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Okay, here it is....
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/Angel_of_Death911/VitGuiltCoup.jpg


Orkid: Ah, thanks for the tip/advice/stuffs.


You're not as bad as you're making out m'dear, there's plenty of room for development here. I was way worse when I first started out. The hair especially is fairly well-developed (more so on the guy)
If you're after CC: Though the guy is facing forwards, you've drawn his nose as though it was in 3/4 view, be careful of such things. Also, you forgot the girl's eyebrows. And finally, the mouths are little too wonky, but aside from that, the rest can be developed by practice =]
Overall, I'd say you're better at guys.
Also, I clicked on the link on your sig, I peeked at them, sorrryyy ^_^''
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Ello Teekay
FelixFELONY
Eh...
Not hugely into digital stuff. It looks nice enough but it's so much harder to do things traditionally. Also, computers are not substitute for practice; you'll need to get some practice before you start investing in such things.


I have to disagree with this. Digital art is just as hard, if not harder to learn to do.

Plus, it's great practice. I was horrible with my art before I actually got in to it and practiced. All digital too, once I switched over.

It's VERY hard to switch from traditional to digital because everything is different. I've had to practice for years to do both because I started out only traditionally. I advise practicing with both mediums, to get used to both of them.

I use a tablet as well, and I recommend them highly. Though, I hated mine at first and didn't use it until years later, so I suggest picking up a used one if you can get it, because they are very odd to use at first.

Here's my {url=http://pineapple-koji.deviantart.com]DA account I wouldn't be able to do all of them, but maybe a few. And probably only sketches, with simple color, because my art is very pricey.


I have also tried digital and have two graphics tablets of my own (my first one was only compatible with XP, and I got vista, thoguh I love my old tablet more) and found it wayy too simply. Say, I've changed my mind about the hair colour; I can just change it. With traditional art it's tough. You have to get it right first time. There's no undo button with traditional art. Blending it easier digitally too. I'll give it's dues; the finished product is often extremely polished and professional, but I'll stick to traditional. Also, you have to be able to draw before you sit in front of a tablet, you have to draw on a tablet too, the method is no different.


Ahh, your one of the people who thinks everything digitally is easy and done for you. It's not as simple as that, not as simple as 'oh, I think I want blond hair I'll just change it.' If you work with tons of layers, then maybe it's possible, depending on if you flattened them or not. Most of the time if you just change the hues to get a different color, it looks like crap.

And, a lot of artists only draw on one layer. So there is no simple color changes or fixes. If you mess something up, or want to change it, you have to do it yourself.

I'm not saying traditional art is easy, because it's not. But, you cannot say one is easier.

Also, I've known a lot of artists who had never drawn before, and started on a tablet.That's the way they learned, no traditional material at all.

Also, if you have no hand-eye coordination, you cannot use a tablet. You don't see your sketch, it's hard to do if you aren't used to it. It IS different from traditional in that sense.

@person who owns the thread;
What style ARE you looking for? Because I only really upload my cutey anime art. I do have other styles.
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Yeah, I've been working off and on on my art for a few years now...more so in the last 6 months or so than ever....though most of what I've been doing is digital.
And yeah...I tend to be really hard on myself when it comes to everything....writing, art, whatever.
I'm not very pleased with that art, but I've done a lot worse...
Ello Teekay
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Ello Teekay
FelixFELONY
Eh...
Not hugely into digital stuff. It looks nice enough but it's so much harder to do things traditionally. Also, computers are not substitute for practice; you'll need to get some practice before you start investing in such things.


I have to disagree with this. Digital art is just as hard, if not harder to learn to do.

Plus, it's great practice. I was horrible with my art before I actually got in to it and practiced. All digital too, once I switched over.

It's VERY hard to switch from traditional to digital because everything is different. I've had to practice for years to do both because I started out only traditionally. I advise practicing with both mediums, to get used to both of them.

I use a tablet as well, and I recommend them highly. Though, I hated mine at first and didn't use it until years later, so I suggest picking up a used one if you can get it, because they are very odd to use at first.

Here's my {url=http://pineapple-koji.deviantart.com]DA account I wouldn't be able to do all of them, but maybe a few. And probably only sketches, with simple color, because my art is very pricey.


I have also tried digital and have two graphics tablets of my own (my first one was only compatible with XP, and I got vista, thoguh I love my old tablet more) and found it wayy too simply. Say, I've changed my mind about the hair colour; I can just change it. With traditional art it's tough. You have to get it right first time. There's no undo button with traditional art. Blending it easier digitally too. I'll give it's dues; the finished product is often extremely polished and professional, but I'll stick to traditional. Also, you have to be able to draw before you sit in front of a tablet, you have to draw on a tablet too, the method is no different.


Ahh, your one of the people who thinks everything digitally is easy and done for you. It's not as simple as that, not as simple as 'oh, I think I want blond hair I'll just change it.' If you work with tons of layers, then maybe it's possible, depending on if you flattened them or not. Most of the time if you just change the hues to get a different color, it looks like crap.

And, a lot of artists only draw on one layer. So there is no simple color changes or fixes. If you mess something up, or want to change it, you have to do it yourself.

I'm not saying traditional art is easy, because it's not. But, you cannot say one is easier.

Also, I've known a lot of artists who had never drawn before, and started on a tablet.That's the way they learned, no traditional material at all.

Also, if you have no hand-eye coordination, you cannot use a tablet. You don't see your sketch, it's hard to do if you aren't used to it. It IS different from traditional in that sense.

@person who owns the thread;
What style ARE you looking for? Because I only really upload my cutey anime art. I do have other styles.


I also draw on many layers. All I do to change the colour is go on the necessary layers, lock transparency, and paint over. Easy peasy. Also, I have a lot of hand-eye coordination. I play drums and piano and well as basketball, so I plenty of chances to develop it. Okay, I'll admit that the sketching is harder digitally, but I'd say the colouring is harder traditionally. So they're equal. Let's argue no longer.
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Ello Teekay


@person who owns the thread;
What style ARE you looking for? Because I only really upload my cutey anime art. I do have other styles.


Ah, I didn't realize that was all you uploaded.
What I'm looking for is a non-chibi, manga to semi-realistic style.
*hopes that's understandable and doesn't sound like a garbled mess*
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Yeep! I have to go for now, but I'll try to get on later to check in!
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I am not arguing, I am just saying points that you are ignoring in favour of your opinion. I am saying they are equal.

You should not tell budding artists that one medium should be ignored because 'it is harder/easier then the other'.

Not all programs have layers, just so you know. Not all artists use them either. And most colors on single layers. For examples, All the hair colors is done on the same layer, shading and all. It's not as simple as locking the transparency to change it.

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