☼ Turning of the Wheel ☼ [~closed~]

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[Janish]

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Turning of the Wheel is an experimental art shop independently owned by me, Janish, on Gaia. The shop is currently in a reconstruction phase following a rather long hiatus.

Basic Rules
+ Follow Gaia's ToS... self explanatory.
+ Don't critique my art unless I asked explicitly for critique.
+ Don't flame me or others on this thread. Do it over PM, or not at all.
+ Don't try to ask for free art or other exceptions like discounts or services I don't offer.
+ Try to be literate, and instead of double-posting go back and modify your previous post.
+ Dont steal my art. I will hunt down and report thieves.

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[Janish]

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Say what? I classify my shop as an experimental art shop because my art is frequently changing, (hopefully improving,) and never the same. There are people who have achieved a level of competency in a certain art style who would choose to draw in that style, over and over, until it becomes practically reflex. I don't want that. Every time I draw it's something new for me. I tried in the past to force myself to draw consistently in one style in large quantities for the sake of running a shop on Gaia ... it didn't work and I got tired quickly. With an experimental shop, you specify some base guidelines such as shading style and lineart style, and the rest is up to me.

The result is that your commission will be unique, instead of looking like part of a "set" of similar commissions.


There are 4 variables that can be specified in a commission: Lineart Style, Lineart Quality, Shading Style, and Image Size. Shading only applies if you're requesting a coloured picture.
Below are prices and examples. Click on the preview to see the full picture (most are deviantArt links.)

I don't have very many examples right now, hence the repetition. Better references soon~

Lineart Style

Anime - x1.5

With this style you will get my best attempt at a "stereotypical" anime style. Medium/large anime eyes, anime shaped face, not very detailed hair.. etc.

Stylized - x2

This is as close as I get to my own unique style. It's generally semi-realism with stylized facial features and more detailed hair.

Mabinogi Chibi

Chibis with Mabinogi-like proportions.

There is a separate post dedicated to these chibis, scroll down for more info..

Chibi - x1

I have a couple different sub-styles of chibi, but in general they have large heads, shiny rounded eyes, a small body, and either very dainty or very large feet. Chibis only come in fullbody or head shot.

Lineart Quality

Rough Sketch - 2,500g

Simple - 5,000g

Simple lineart is characterized by bold, non-sketchy lines. It contains less detail than my Detailed lineart option however, and is cheaper as a result. Depending on the art I sometimes like to add a darker outline around the outside of the shape.

Sketch - 6,000g

This type of sketch lineart is what I'd call refined sketching. It starts out as a messy sketch but a second, cleaner sketch is done on a new layer and the original sketch is discarded. It is characterized by light sketchy strokes.

Detailed - 7,500g

Detailed lineart is done on SAI with a 0.8 pixel ink pen brush. As the name says, it is more detailed than Simple lineart. The lines are smooth and non-sketchy.

Shading Style

Cel Shading

Cel Shading is characterized by solid blocks of colour and a clear definition of where shadows and highlights are. It is the type of shading normally seen in 2D animation. My Cel Shading occasionally includes gradient overlays or blush, especially on chibis.

499x499 and below - +5,000g
below 800x600 - +8,000g
800x600 and up - +15,000g

Soft Shading

The focus of soft shading is to make the shading smooth. It is much more subtle than cel shading. I'm still learning how to soft shade. The high starting price is for the base effort involved in even trying.

499x499 and below - +10,000g
500x500 and up - +15,000g

Brush Shading

A more spontaneous style that could be counted as a mix between soft and cel shading. There are often parts on a brush shaded picture where there is a defined edge on shadows, but also spots where it blends in like soft shading.

499x499 and below - +6,000g
below 800x600 - +7,000g
800x600 and up - +15,000g

Image Size + Type

Head Shot - x1

Just the head of your character. This may or may not include the shoulders, depending on the character. If the character has distinctive long hair, I will probably draw the head as 'floating' with the body 'transparent' and the hair visible from behind. A small headshot is the default and has no extra charge aside from lineart/colouring costs.

300x300 - 0g
500x500 - +1,000g

Bust Shot - x1.5

I use the term Bust Shot and Waist-Up interchangeably. What you get depends on the design of the character.

400x400 - +1,000g
600x600 - +3,000g

Chibi Fullbody - x1

Obviously, this can only be done in the chibi Lineart Style. The larger the image the more detail you'll have, but personally I feel the smaller ones are cuter. Chibis generally are not square, so the actual height and width will vary.

150x150 - 1,000g - This option is standalone. If you request one of these you get a simplified, doll-like graphic. It costs only 1,000g, and you don't need to pick lineart or shading.
300x300 - +500g
500x500 - +1,500g

Fullbody - x3

Your character, no parts cut off. I really really hate doing fullbodies because of how much longer they take and the amount of attention I need to therefore put into correct body proportioning, hence the jump in price.

350x500 - +1,000g
500x700 - +2,000g
800x600 - +5,000g
Very Large Pictures, Couples - bribe

Extras

Animation - +1,000g

Animation is restricted to head shots, bust shots, 300x300 (and below) chibis, and standalone animation. For head shots and bust shots, animation means blinking or other changes in expression like raising an eyebrow (No Warcraft elves. NO.) or smiling/frowning/etc.150x150 chibis can have a much wider range of animations, including fullbody animations, at the cost of less detail on the lineart and shading. Standalone animation is for the time being a frame-by-frame 2-colour sketch of some simple movement such as spinning or running.

Standalone Animation - 5,000g, simple designs only.

Background - x5

Solid Colour/Gradient/Patterns/Designs - 100g
Basic Landscape - 1,000g
Detailed Landscape - bribe

Flob

I can change a headshot, bust shot, or chibi to a forum flob free of charge.

Couples, Romance, Nudity etc

As a general rule I extremely dislike drawing couples. I will only do it if I like the characters, if the person requesting it is on my whitelist, or if I get a bribe I can't resist. I don't draw kissing. I'm sort of okay with nudity, but only if it's artistic. I don't draw n***s in suggestive poses. There may be an extra charge associated with this.

Adjustment
A new feature I added to improve price scaling.
Adjustment is multiplied to your final cost at the very end, and is based on the cost prior to the adjustment.
x2 - prices below 35k
x3 - prices above 35k


Calculating the Cost

1. Begin with your Lineart Quality cost. That is your base cost.
2. Take your selected Image Size cost and multiply it with the Image Type multiplier. Add this to your base cost.
3. Multiply by your Lineart Style cost.
4. If you're requesting coloured art, add the correct additional cost.
5. Add and/or multiply in any other fees from the Extras section. As a general rule, anything following the x___ format is to be multiplied, and anything with + ___ is to be added. Addition always comes before multiplication.
6. To find the final price, multiply by the adjustment.

Example: 400x400 Simple Lineart Anime Bust Shot with Cel Shading
(1.5(5,000 + 1.5(1,000)) + 5,000)x2 = 29,500 Gaia Gold

Yes, there are much simpler ways to price art. This is a retard check.


Multiple Characters In One Picture
Is not currently a standard option. Feel free to bribe.

Avatar-like props, like the Celebrity Date and various forms of other items such as Fallen Wish and the 2008 winter Carol items, count as one character.



Likes To Draw
It's biased, but my art generally turns out better if I'm drawing something I enjoy drawing.
+ Medieval Fantasy
+ MMORPG Characters - WoW, L2, GW, etc...
+ Magic users (pretty robes.)

Will Not Draw
Under no circumstances will I agree to drawing the following.
+ Heavily muscled men/muscly people in general
+ Male characters. The exception is very girly boys and chibis.
+ Mecha
+ Exaggerated boobs
+ Unoriginal Anime Characters - this includes main characters and poorly customized fan characters.
+ Excessive Blood/Gore
+ Characters naked for the sake of being naked. As an elaboration on my comment about nudity earlier, I'll only draw naked characters if they are female, and if they have a good reason to be naked, i.e. a shapeshifter having just shifted out of animal form, mermaids, feral faeries.
+ Characters pleasing themselves.
+ Extremely boring, or unoriginal characters. Some avatars may fall into this category.
+ Mismatched or cluttered avatars. What constitutes as cluttered is up to my discretion.

[Janish]

. intro . examples + prices . order form . status . notice . mabi chibis . spread the word .

Check my Status post to see what slots are open before you submit a form.

For a quickest response and better organization, send the form to me via mail. Feel free to ask questions in this thread, but forms posted in this thread will be ignored. (retard check number two.)

I'll be much likelier to accept your request if you say something in your mail, instead of just copy and pasting the form. I like to get a feel of the person(ality) behind the character or avatar I'm supposed to draw.

If requesting art of a game character from World of Warcraft, MapleStory, GuildWars, Rappelz, PerfectWorld, or CABAL, you may be free with your game terminology as I will understand what you're saying.

For WoW players, a link to the character's armory profile will do wonders for accuracy.

Gaia Username:

Lineart Quality:
Lineart Style:
Image Size/Type:
Shading Style:
Extras:

Character Being Drawn:
Description:
Reference Pictures: (I will not draw characters based purely on text descriptions. I also do not accept "references" or photos of other characters that your character is supposed to resemble.)
Pose and Details: (this is a must for fullbody requests.)

I reserve the right to reject/cancel your request at any time for any reason, provided that there has been no actual exchange of money/items over Gaia yet.


Ideal Art Trade

1. You fill out a form and send it to me via mail.
2. I receive the form and reply telling you my conditions and price.
3. You send a trade with the payment.
4. I draw your request.
5. I send you a watermarked preview of the completed art and accept the trade.
6. You confirm the trade/tip.
7. I send you the full version of the art via mail.


No refunds. If you find that you would rather save your money for other purposes, you MUST inform me before I begin working on your art. I will not accept "less" gold if you are dissatisfied with what the end product looks like. To quote a friend, "One does not buy art; one pays the artist for his or her effort." Refusing to pay will result in a block and addition to my black list.




Payment
+ Pure Gold
+ Monthly Collectibles, Evolving Items, or rare/easy to sell items. I value items at lowest market price. If the item is on a deflating trend then I will value it even lower.




Wait Time
It varies. A lot. To cut down on unfinished/pending requests, I'm going to be lowering the number of maximum slots available and being pickier about which requests I'll accept. Don't be offended if I don't accept your request the first time.

If I'm in an artsy mood, I generally finish within one or two days. Otherwise it can be around a week. If I'm really stuck, I'll probably cancel the trade instead of forcing you to wait for an indeterminate amount of time.

[Janish]

. intro . examples + prices . order form . status . notice . mabi chibis . spread the word .

last update - 3/12/2009

Regular Slots
1. Sugar Coated Strawberry - Killian (OC), Nicky (OC)
2. none

Fullbody Slot
1. none

Bribe Slot
1. none



Finished Commissions

[Janish]

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(Midnight, November 12, 2009) I quit Gaia for a while, playing Aion and Guild Wars D: I'm kind of semi back now. Don't expect any updates for quite a while though, college = busy.

(Friday, March 27, 2009) - Made an attempt to address undercutting issues by adding an 'adjustment' to my cost formula. Prices have essentially doubled/tripled. I'm basing this off the prices that some of my artist friends are charging.

(Wednesday, March 11, 2009) - Over an entire year since the last shop update. I'm coming out of my hiatus to draw a little again, but my rules have changed -- indeed, aside from the shop name and owner, pretty much everything has changed.

(Thursday, January 17, 2008.) - Man oh man how fast time flies >>; at least exams are over.. although I don't think I did particularly well. Revamped entire shop's theme; still same name for sake of people trying to find my shop using Search. Added additional option of more expensive chibis in a more detailed style.

(Sunday, December 2, 2007) - Sorry for not updating so long.. I've received everyone's PMs asking where I've gone, and no I haven't forgotten you guys... just really busy lately, I got back into MapleStory and have obligations with a new guild, getting Z-helm for 40 mil coming thursday, midterms, piano competitions.. ARGHHHHHH. Also, for the love of God, READ BEFORE YOU POST ANYTHING. (Of course, the previous sentence will be lost on those who don't read anyways.)

(Sunday, November 18, 2007) - Woah, already 5 pages of posts already?! I'm really happy people like my art <3 so many pics to draw though..

(Friday, November 16, 2007) - Turning of the Wheel goes live! I'll see how things go and modify accordingly :]

[Janish]

As the name implies, these chibis are inspired by the MMORPG Mabinogi. I'm dedicating a subsection of Turning of the Wheel to these chibis, since they're more consistent than the rest of my art. These chibis only come cel shading and 0.8 px lineart.

They also have less variables to mix and match, so I'm providing preset prices.
Sizes represent the starting size of the canvas I work on. I usually crop at the end to minimize white blocks.

300x300 waist up - 20,000 Gold
500x500 waist up - 30,000 Gold
500x500 full body - 50,000 Gold
900x900 full body - 100,000 Gold

To order provide a reference picture, desired pose, size, and type in a forum post. Contrary to the rest of my shop I will only be picking up one request at a time, and only from active forum poster!

[Janish]

. intro . examples + prices . order form . status . notice . mabi chibis . spread the word .

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